NSG Senate Presidential Election (FIRST ROUND POLLS CLOSED)

[NSG Senate Administrators]

The Administration team will discuss the proposal to end voting early. -MV

[Othelos]

The Administration team will discuss the proposal to end voting early. -MV

Thanks!

[NSG Senate Administrators]

The Administration team has determined that unless there are serious objections, voting will be closed as of two hours from now. All 3 administrators online at the moment have expressed support for this, as well as several other senators in this thread.
-MV

[The Republic of Lanos]

The Administration team has determined that unless there are serious objections, voting will be closed as of two hours from now. All 3 administrators online at the moment have expressed support for this, as well as several other senators in this thread.
-MV

No objections.

[Maklohi Vai]

As a reminder, the current vote count:

Aeken: 75
Zweite Alaje: 38
Regnum Dominae: 29
New Freedomstan: 16
TaQud: 3
Abstention: 1

Total: 162

[Imperiatom]

I senator Imperiatom register an abstention to the first round of voting in support of my party candidate.

[Skallen]

I, Senator Skallen, cast my vote for New Freedomstan as the president of our nation.

[Maklohi Vai]

Aeken: 75
Zweite Alaje: 38
Regnum Dominae: 29
New Freedomstan: 17
TaQud: 3
Abstention: 2

Total: 164

Voting ends in 22 minutes.

[NSG Senate Administrators]

Senators, the first round of voting has ended with these results:

Aeken: 75
Zweite Alaje: 38
Regnum Dominae: 29
New Freedomstan: 17
TaQud: 3
Abstention: 2

Total: 164

We will now move onto the second round, consisting of the candidates of Aeken and Zweite Alaje. This vote will not begin immediately, but rather in 12-18 hours. The administration will likely create a second thread for this purpose, and only when it is opened may voting begin. If a new thread is not created, the title of this thread will be changed to reflect the opening of the second round polls. The second round of voting will last for 5 days unless it becomes apparent that such a timeframe is unnecessary.

Any questions may be directed to this account's TG box.

[Yankee Empire]

Would if be possible to set up some form of Q&A for the Canidates and/or Debate?

The idea has been brought up and the Canidates seem to be receptive to the idea.

[Imperiatom]

Would if be possible to set up some form of Q&A for the Canidates and/or Debate?

The idea has been brought up and the Canidates seem to be receptive to the idea.

I like the sound of that. Have all four (the VP's) as well would be a nice touch.

[Seelelander]

Would if be possible to set up some form of Q&A for the Canidates and/or Debate?

The idea has been brought up and the Canidates seem to be receptive to the idea.

I like the sound of that. Have all four (the VP's) as well would be a nice touch.

New Freedomstan is currently hospitalized, but for the time being I recommend giving him time to recover? That would be the nice thing to do given that he IRL nearly died.

[Imperiatom]

I like the sound of that. Have all four (the VP's) as well would be a nice touch.

New Freedomstan is currently hospitalized, but for the time being I recommend giving him time to recover? That would be the nice thing to do given that he IRL nearly died.

He is not in the running anymore so he is irreverent to any questions or debate that may happen. He lost.

[Seelelander]

New Freedomstan is currently hospitalized, but for the time being I recommend giving him time to recover? That would be the nice thing to do given that he IRL nearly died.

He is not in the running anymore so he is irreverent to any questions or debate that may happen. He lost.

I was under the impression that there would be more than one round, but hey, my misconception. Thanks though, I'll let him know.

[Imperiatom]

He is not in the running anymore so he is irreverent to any questions or debate that may happen. He lost.

I was under the impression that there would be more than one round, but hey, my misconception. Thanks though, I'll let him know.

There are two rounds but the second round is only for the top two from the first round. So we now have a shoot off for the position. He only came fourth.

[Irredento]

He is not in the running anymore so he is irreverent to any questions or debate that may happen. He lost.

I was under the impression that there would be more than one round, but hey, my misconception. Thanks though, I'll let him know.

There's two rounds but only the top two candidates pass through to the second, meaning that everyone but Ally and Aeken are now out of the running.

[Seelelander]

There are two rounds but the second round is only for the top two from the first round. So we now have a shoot off for the position. He only came fourth.

Alright then, thanks Imperiatom and Irredento. I've been a bit busy and am catching up.

Congratulations on both candidates! You have earned your position in the top two.

[Imperiatom]

There are two rounds but the second round is only for the top two from the first round. So we now have a shoot off for the position. He only came fourth.

Alright then, thanks Imperiatom and Irredento. I've been a bit busy and am catching up.

Congratulations on both candidates! You have earned your position in the top two.

who you going to vote for now? or will you abstain from this voting gluttony?

[Seelelander]

This is a difficult question, but I favor Ally generally, and Aeken has a discomfort with A well regulated Militia, which is necessary to the security of a Free State in order to prevent monopolization of arms. After all with civilians completely powerless against a government in power, it makes for a dangerous predicament if this government becomes the least bit corrupt. We hope to escape oppressive totalitarian government, with the centralized federal government possessing unlimited power over the people with force of arms, we need a deliberate counter in that the people must retain the right to keep and bear arms. The presence of armed citizens is what keeps the government "honest". No government would be foolish enough to impose a dictatorship on people who have the ability to resist, on the other hand, without this safeguard there is no ability for the citizen to dissent without the threat of force.

[Yankee Empire]

This is a difficult question, but I favor Ally generally, and Aeken has a discomfort with A well regulated Militia, which is necessary to the security of a Free State in order to prevent monopolization of arms. After all with civilians completely powerless against a government in power, it makes for a dangerous predicament if this government becomes the least bit corrupt. We hope to escape oppressive totalitarian government, with the centralized federal government possessing unlimited power over the people with force of arms, we need a deliberate counter in that the people must retain the right to keep and bear arms. The presence of armed citizens is what keeps the government "honest". No government would be foolish enough to impose a dictatorship on people who have the ability to resist, on the other hand, without this safeguard there is no ability for the citizen to dissent without the threat of force.

What about a "totalitarian government, with a centralized federal government" that allowed it's people to keep there Arms?

Because that tends to be the plaform we favor. Also whats wrong with a Dictatorship? In itself?

[Seelelander]

What about a "totalitarian government, with a centralized federal government" that allowed it's people to keep there Arms? Because that tends to be the platform we favor. Also whats wrong with a Dictatorship? In itself?

The problem being that unless there's a mandate of the masses, there's a good chance with an armed populace, your dictator will be shot in the face if he ain't doing a good job. But given this reality, then if the dictator is clever enough to do that I can't really say I disagree with 'em. Given that he's honest enough to allow citizens to retain their right to arms, AND rules without question to his or her rule. It is probably this that is the most dangerous government of all because it means it's dangerously effective at that.

[Yankee Empire]

What about a "totalitarian government, with a centralized federal government" that allowed it's people to keep there Arms? Because that tends to be the platform we favor. Also whats wrong with a Dictatorship? In itself?

The problem being that unless there's a mandate of the masses, there's a good chance with an armed populace, your dictator will be shot in the face if he ain't doing a good job

And when the do have a madate from the masses? As Populist Autocrats often do?
Thing is no one is ever going to have 100% support, so maybe their could be some sympathy for those in power maybe thinking some parts of society are a little too trigger happy?

But given this reality, then if the dictator is clever enough to do that I can't really say I disagree with 'em. Given that he's honest enough to allow citizens to retain their right to arms, AND rules without question to his or her rule. It is probably this that is the most dangerous government of all because it means it's dangerously effective at that.

I... Really like this answer.

[TaQud]

So debate first than second round or are we immeditaely going to the second round.

[Kannap]

I assume that if a new thread is made, the link will be posted here. Correct?

[The British Gumpurt]

I Senator The British Gumpurt vote for Nationalist Imperialist Freedom Party