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Postby Ziegenhain » Sat May 04, 2013 9:37 am

I vote AYE on the National Symbols Acts. but I think black-white-red make for a nicer colors
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat May 04, 2013 9:41 am

I vote AYE in regards the the National Symbols Act.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat May 04, 2013 9:42 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Treorai wrote:Hipster.

Hardly. I've made my position regarding Hippo's usurping of all creative power in the government well known.


That is ridiculous. If others would fork up some suggestions, maybe Hippo wouldn't have to make all the creative decisions.
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Postby Hathradic States » Sat May 04, 2013 9:44 am

I vote AYE.

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Postby Darmen » Sat May 04, 2013 9:49 am

I vote FOR the National Symbols Act.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat May 04, 2013 9:57 am

CTALNH wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:ABSTAINING on the PLEA.

Really?

The bill was rushed through while my concerns went undressed. Thus I abstain, why shouldn't I?

By the way is the Senate completely doing away with debates about legislature before undertaking votes? How democratic. Anyway, I vote NAY on the NSA.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat May 04, 2013 9:57 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Hardly. I've made my position regarding Hippo's usurping of all creative power in the government well known.


That is ridiculous. If others would fork up some suggestions, maybe Hippo wouldn't have to make all the creative decisions.

Its more his unwillingness to hear opinions regarding his work, specifically his map, and make compromises that irks me.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat May 04, 2013 9:58 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Really?

The bill was rushed through while my concerns went undressed. Thus I abstain, why shouldn't I?

By the way is the Senate completely doing away with debates about legislature before undertaking votes? How democratic. Anyway, I vote NAY on the NSA.

Although I completely agree with your vote, Senator, may I ask your reasoning behind it?

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Postby Yanalia » Sat May 04, 2013 9:59 am

Of the Quendi wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Really?

The bill was rushed through while my concerns went undressed. Thus I abstain, why shouldn't I?

By the way is the Senate completely doing away with debates about legislature before undertaking votes? How democratic. Anyway, I vote NAY on the NSA.


I thought that we should move on to more important legislation. This is an art design act.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat May 04, 2013 10:02 am

Of the Quendi wrote:By the way is the Senate completely doing away with debates about legislature before undertaking votes? How democratic. Anyway, I vote NAY on the NSA.

Because there are literally gazillions of more important legislations to pass to spend hours debating which colour should go on national seal, especially since there are no better proposal.
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Postby Jerusalemian » Sat May 04, 2013 10:02 am

I vote Aye on NSA
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat May 04, 2013 10:03 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
That is ridiculous. If others would fork up some suggestions, maybe Hippo wouldn't have to make all the creative decisions.

Its more his unwillingness to hear opinions regarding his work, specifically his map, and make compromises that irks me.


His map, he created it for us. If people have a problem, they should make their own. That's how I look at it.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat May 04, 2013 10:05 am

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Its more his unwillingness to hear opinions regarding his work, specifically his map, and make compromises that irks me.


His map, he created it for us. If people have a problem, they should make their own. That's how I look at it.

It isn't his map though. It is a map he created for this body. If he doesn't want to compromise, he can shove that map right back into the void for all I care; He does not get to dictate everything about the nation simply because he created the first image.

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Postby Ziegenhain » Sat May 04, 2013 10:09 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
His map, he created it for us. If people have a problem, they should make their own. That's how I look at it.

It isn't his map though. It is a map he created for this body. If he doesn't want to compromise, he can shove that map right back into the void for all I care; He does not get to dictate everything about the nation simply because he created the first image.


No. It's a map that he created for us, but is owned by him.

Anyways, the chamber is not the place to argue about this.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat May 04, 2013 10:12 am

The National Symbols Act is reactionary. I vote NO.
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Postby Lemanrussland » Sat May 04, 2013 10:15 am

The flag(s) looks nice. I vote yea.
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Postby Aquitayne » Sat May 04, 2013 10:27 am

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Postby Trotskylvania » Sat May 04, 2013 10:34 am

Stop tagging, it's against the rules.
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Postby Diopolis » Sat May 04, 2013 10:43 am

I vote for the national symbols act.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sat May 04, 2013 10:46 am

I vote NAY on the National Symbols Act.
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Postby TaQud » Sat May 04, 2013 10:48 am

I vote AYE.
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Postby Of the Quendi » Sat May 04, 2013 11:03 am

Ceannairceach wrote:
Of the Quendi wrote:The bill was rushed through while my concerns went undressed. Thus I abstain, why shouldn't I?

By the way is the Senate completely doing away with debates about legislature before undertaking votes? How democratic. Anyway, I vote NAY on the NSA.

Although I completely agree with your vote, Senator, may I ask your reasoning behind it?

Principally because I oppose establishing national symbols, a lesser issue is that I think it undemocratic not to leave an appropriate time for debate.
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Of the Quendi wrote:By the way is the Senate completely doing away with debates about legislature before undertaking votes? How democratic. Anyway, I vote NAY on the NSA.

Because there are literally gazillions of more important legislations to pass to spend hours debating which colour should go on national seal, especially since there are no better proposal.

If the bill is deemed unimportant why didn't people move to move it down the queue instead of rushing it through? Besides I don't want to debate the merit of the colors and symbols chosen (Hippo has as always made excellent artwork) but the merit of having national symbols in the first place.
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Postby Divair » Sat May 04, 2013 11:03 am

Trotskylvania wrote:The National Symbols Act is reactionary. I vote NO.

Care to explain?
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sat May 04, 2013 11:06 am

I officially abstain on the National Symbols Act.
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Postby Gallup » Sat May 04, 2013 11:07 am

I vote AYE.
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