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Byzantium Imperial
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:32 pm

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Byzantium Imperial wrote:I will then send another letter stating clearly "Good for you. We the people of Arentina are delighted to say we couldnt give a dam, and sure are glad we are independent now so that we dont have to pay for you useless parasites (excluding the one who served in the Military). Again, congrats on your child."


Senator, I ask you to refrain from this somewhat indirect insult to our fellow persons. You may not agree with these idealogies, but you must desist from intesely discouraging the hosts of those ideas nonetheless.

What ideologies? Im simply sending an insult to our former occupiarers. And since when am I discouraging others from sending letters or congrats as well? Just because I send my letter doesnt automatically mean the Royal family wont accept any more from our nation
(to be completly fair, I highly doubt the royal family would read any letters we sent)
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Postby Britcan » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:32 pm

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Britcan wrote:I would like to be the first of the Senators of Aurentina to congratulate the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge on the birth of their child and I wish the new parents and their new son happiness and good health.

I will then send another letter stating clearly "Good for you. We the people of Arentina are delighted to say we couldnt give a dam, and sure are glad we are independent now so that we dont have to pay for you useless parasites (excluding the one who served in the Military). Again, congrats on your child."

You don't speak for all the people of Aurentina (or Arentina for that matter) so I would ask you not to pretend to, especially when writing letters to a future head of state and his wife.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:35 pm

Battlion wrote:I would like to inform the chamber I am withdrawing the Educational Excellence Omnibus from the queue, the reason for doing so is the government will not debate and merely has disrespected my honour and the honour of my party.

The Minister for Education will introduce his own plan including compulsory religious studies for all, something I wouldn't accept.


You really need to cease the dishonest prattling; It has been repeatedly stated that there would be an opt out for the program and it would be up to the Individual as to the subject of the Course.

It falls well within the Bounds Legality of the Secular State Act.
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Postby Battlion » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:36 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Battlion wrote:I would like to inform the chamber I am withdrawing the Educational Excellence Omnibus from the queue, the reason for doing so is the government will not debate and merely has disrespected my honour and the honour of my party.

The Minister for Education will introduce his own plan including compulsory religious studies for all, something I wouldn't accept.


You really need to cease the dishonest prattling; It has been repeatedly stated that there would be an opt out for the program and it would be up to the Individual as to the subject of the Course.

It falls well within the Bounds Legality of the Secular State Act.


Bar the part where it doesn't teach EVERY religion in the world and is therefore breaking the law, now leave me alone.

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Postby The Zeonic States » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:39 pm

Battlion wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
You really need to cease the dishonest prattling; It has been repeatedly stated that there would be an opt out for the program and it would be up to the Individual as to the subject of the Course.

It falls well within the Bounds Legality of the Secular State Act.


Bar the part where it doesn't teach EVERY religion in the world and is therefore breaking the law, now leave me alone.


To my Knowledge the contents of the program aren't specified as of yet so whom are you decide what is or is not within a proposed program?
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Postby Free South Califas » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:45 pm

Comrade Venaleria, my apologies for forgetting to congratulate you on your new office of President pro tempore of the Senate. How rude of me! :oops: Congratulations, then!

I am sure we all have the utmost confidence in our new officer.
The Zeonic States wrote:
Venaleria wrote:
Senator, I ask you to refrain from this somewhat indirect insult to our fellow persons. You may not agree with these idealogies, but you must desist from intesely discouraging the hosts of those ideas nonetheless.


I would ask you from Refrain from issuing baseless and groundless Orders to members of the NIFP.
Oh, come off it now! Venaleria is President pro tempore of the Senate and you will treat his mandate with respect! He is the debate moderator whether you like it or not. Party membership has nothing to do with it, and might I add, your demand gives off rather a different impression than you may think.

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Battlion wrote:
Bar the part where it doesn't teach EVERY religion in the world and is therefore breaking the law, now leave me alone.


To my Knowledge the contents of the program aren't specified as of yet so whom are you decide what is or is not within a proposed program?

Can we perhaps return to the matter at hand, the NFAA?
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Free South Califas
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Postby Free South Califas » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:45 pm

Free South Califas wrote:
National Financing and Accounting Act | Authors: Royalsoldiers, Yanalia, Ujh Uhj, Ainin, Belmaria | Voting Ends: 23 July 2013, 22:40 EDT
Financial Act of 2013
Aye: 43
Nay: 6
Abstain: 12

Revenue Collection Act of 2013
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Abstain: 2

Government Finance and Accounting Act
Aye: 10
Nay: 50
Abstain: 2

Broadcasting Act
Aye: 45
Nay: 17
Abstain: 1

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Postby Distruzio » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:46 pm

Battlion wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
You really need to cease the dishonest prattling; It has been repeatedly stated that there would be an opt out for the program and it would be up to the Individual as to the subject of the Course.

It falls well within the Bounds Legality of the Secular State Act.


Bar the part where it doesn't teach EVERY religion in the world and is therefore breaking the law, now leave me alone.


This is a debate for elsewhere. I shall merely respond with an unurprised notation of further dishonesty on your part.
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Postby Darmen » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:17 pm

I vote FOR the FA of 2013.
I vote FOR the RCA of 2013.
I vote AGAINST the GFAA.
I vote FOR the BA.
I vote AGAINST the ERA.
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Postby Fulflood » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:31 pm

Battlion wrote:I would like to inform the chamber I am withdrawing the Educational Excellence Omnibus from the queue, the reason for doing so is the government will not debate and merely has disrespected my honour and the honour of my party.

WHY‽

Battlion wrote:The Minister for Education will introduce his own plan including compulsory religious studies for all, something I wouldn't accept.

Omagod, it doesn't even matter. This is such a petty thing to ditch 5 excellent bills for.
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Postby Venaleria » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:32 pm

Free South Califas wrote:Comrade Venaleria, my apologies for forgetting to congratulate you on your new office of President pro tempore of the Senate. How rude of me! :oops: Congratulations, then!

I am sure we all have the utmost confidence in our new officer.
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I would ask you from Refrain from issuing baseless and groundless Orders to members of the NIFP.
Oh, come off it now! Venaleria is President pro tempore of the Senate and you will treat his mandate with respect! He is the debate moderator whether you like it or not. Party membership has nothing to do with it, and might I add, your demand gives off rather a different impression than you may think.

The Zeonic States wrote:
To my Knowledge the contents of the program aren't specified as of yet so whom are you decide what is or is not within a proposed program?

Can we perhaps return to the matter at hand, the NFAA?


Thank you very much, Senator. I appreciate your support and congratulations. I also wish you the best of luck in future positions which you will hold. I hope to work greatly with you on the moderation of this senate. :)

Free South Califas (again) and Distruzio: I greatly appreciate your polite requests to change conversation back to the matter at hand. *Gives gold stars*

Byzantium Imperial and The Zeonic States: I realize your arguments to retain freedom of thought but I still firmly request you to keep attention to the NFAA and without major discordance on the side of other topics. Thank you.
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Postby Venaleria » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:35 pm

National Financing and Accounting Act | Authors: Royalsoldiers, Yanalia, Ujh Uhj, Ainin, Belmaria | Voting Ends: 23 July 2013, 22:40 EDT
Financial Act of 2013
Aye: 44
Nay: 6
Abstain: 12

Revenue Collection Act of 2013
Aye: 55
Nay: 6
Abstain: 2

Government Finance and Accounting Act
Aye: 10
Nay: 51
Abstain: 2

Broadcasting Act
Aye: 46
Nay: 17
Abstain: 1

Economic Responsibility Act
Aye: 7
Nay: 50
Abstain: 3
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Postby Gothmogs » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:59 pm

I motion to add the Animal Protection Force Act to the queue. Then I motion to add it to the Environment Act omnibus.
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Postby Bleckonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:59 pm

Fulflood wrote:
Battlion wrote:I would like to inform the chamber I am withdrawing the Educational Excellence Omnibus from the queue, the reason for doing so is the government will not debate and merely has disrespected my honour and the honour of my party.

WHY‽

Battlion wrote:The Minister for Education will introduce his own plan including compulsory religious studies for all, something I wouldn't accept.

Omagod, it doesn't even matter. This is such a petty thing to ditch 5 excellent bills for.


PETTY???? It's illegal! A violation of the SSA!
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Postby Yanalia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:00 pm

Gothmogs wrote:I motion to add the Animal Protection Force Act to the queue. Then I motion to add it to the Environment Act omnibus.


Seconded.
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Postby Liberated Counties » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:00 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Gothmogs wrote:I motion to add the Animal Protection Force Act to the queue. Then I motion to add it to the Environment Act omnibus.


Seconded.


Thirded.
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Postby Bleckonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:01 pm

Gothmogs wrote:I motion to add the Animal Protection Force Act to the queue. Then I motion to add it to the Environment Act omnibus.


Would this bill consider medical experimentation on animals to be abuse?
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Postby Gothmogs » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:02 pm

Bleckonia wrote:
Gothmogs wrote:I motion to add the Animal Protection Force Act to the queue. Then I motion to add it to the Environment Act omnibus.


Would this bill consider medical experimentation on animals to be abuse?

The bill does not define abuse. This creates a force that will uphold animal law, such as abuse laws if they pass.
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Postby Venaleria » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:02 pm

Bleckonia wrote:
Gothmogs wrote:I motion to add the Animal Protection Force Act to the queue. Then I motion to add it to the Environment Act omnibus.


Would this bill consider medical experimentation on animals to be abuse?


If you need to ask these questions in the future, please take them elsewhere to the lobby. The chamber is a place only for motions, debate (when applicable), and voting. Thank you.
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Postby Bleckonia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:03 pm

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Postby Britanno » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:03 pm

Gothmogs wrote:I motion to add the Animal Protection Force Act to the queue. Then I motion to add it to the Environment Act omnibus.


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Postby Battlion » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:04 pm

Bleckonia wrote:
Fulflood wrote:WHY‽


Omagod, it doesn't even matter. This is such a petty thing to ditch 5 excellent bills for.


PETTY???? It's illegal! A violation of the SSA!


Just so it is clear, the CMP Education Minister made it clear he would amend the legislation to "fulfil what he was elected for".

I'd rather wait and let them propose their own policy, that will probably mostly be copied from me and not be their own actual policy.

Plus, the CMP reckon they have complete control over any education bill so... blame the Education Minister who was unwilling to come to the table and talk. I will re-propose them at a later date, clearly this amount of time wouldn't be enough to debate.

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Postby Welsh Cowboy » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:05 pm

I'm honestly wondering if there's precedent for removing bills from queue, especially after it's been moved up?
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Postby Yanalia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:06 pm

Welsh Cowboy wrote:I'm honestly wondering if there's precedent for removing bills from queue, especially after it's been moved up?


Yes. See Wolf removing his UHA amendment.
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Postby Distruzio » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:06 pm

Battlion wrote:
Bleckonia wrote:
PETTY???? It's illegal! A violation of the SSA!


Just so it is clear, the CMP Education Minister made it clear he would amend the legislation to "fulfil what he was elected for".

I'd rather wait and let them propose their own policy, that will probably mostly be copied from me and not be their own actual policy.

Plus, the CMP reckon they have complete control over any education bill so... blame the Education Minister who was unwilling to come to the table and talk. I will re-propose them at a later date, clearly this amount of time wouldn't be enough to debate.


You continue to lie, even now, Senator. This is tiresome.
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