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Postby Venaleria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:13 am

United Soviet Jason Republic wrote:The Castamere/Cardassia Act of Entertainment Quality Assurance(2013) - Nay
National Symbols Act: Amendment I - Nay
National Symbols Act: Amendment II - Nay
National Museum System Establishment Act - AYE


Voting ended a while ago. The Castamere Act was shot down while the others passed.
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Postby Venaleria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:14 am

Yanalia wrote:
Venaleria wrote:I motion for an amendment to the Food Service Sanitation Act.


Didn't you write it? Just change it.


Sorry, it's just I thought I would have to get permission because people had already supported it and an amendment might make them think otherwise (unlikely, though in this case). :)
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:14 am

Venaleria wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Didn't you write it? Just change it.


Sorry, it's just I thought I would have to get permission because people had already supported it and an amendment might make them think otherwise (unlikely, though in this case). :)


We've always let authors change their bills at any time.
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Postby Venaleria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:16 am

Yanalia wrote:
Venaleria wrote:
Sorry, it's just I thought I would have to get permission because people had already supported it and an amendment might make them think otherwise (unlikely, though in this case). :)


We've always let authors change their bills at any time.


Good, it would've been a hassle to do all that. :lol2:
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Postby Oneracon » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:19 am

Venaleria wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Didn't you write it? Just change it.


Sorry, it's just I thought I would have to get permission because people had already supported it and an amendment might make them think otherwise (unlikely, though in this case). :)


It's also my fault, I gave bad information. :oops:
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:24 am

The Economic Responsibility Act is sound. Support it if you support a strong currency. The supporters of the bill have made a coalition website (it's in my sig) where people can find out tons of information about the bill. The website has the bill text, reasoning behind the bill, and an informational video on central banking.
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Postby Ainin » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:25 am

Belmaria wrote:The Economic Responsibility Act is sound. Support it if you support a strong currency. The supporters of the bill have made a coalition website (it's in my sig) where people can find out tons of information about the bill. The website has the bill text, reasoning behind the bill, and an informational video on central banking.

"This bill hereby bans all forms of central banking on federal, state, and local levels."

Yeah, no.
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:26 am

I just realized I forgot to specify crime levels(derelict/felony,etc) in the RCA. Any suggestions for those?
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Postby Agritum » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:27 am

Ainin wrote:
Belmaria wrote:The Economic Responsibility Act is sound. Support it if you support a strong currency. The supporters of the bill have made a coalition website (it's in my sig) where people can find out tons of information about the bill. The website has the bill text, reasoning behind the bill, and an informational video on central banking.

"This bill hereby bans all forms of central banking on federal, state, and local levels."

Yeah, no.

Seems like Ron Paul's wet dream.

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Postby The Realm of God » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:27 am

Ainin wrote:
Belmaria wrote:The Economic Responsibility Act is sound. Support it if you support a strong currency. The supporters of the bill have made a coalition website (it's in my sig) where people can find out tons of information about the bill. The website has the bill text, reasoning behind the bill, and an informational video on central banking.

"This bill hereby bans all forms of central banking on federal, state, and local levels."

Yeah, no.


Wait what, that means barter and rapidly fluctuating local credit systems in other words economic failure and reliance on foreign currency.
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:28 am

Agritum wrote:
Ainin wrote:"This bill hereby bans all forms of central banking on federal, state, and local levels."

Yeah, no.

Seems like Ron Paul's wet dream.

If you support economic tyranny, senator, then by all means vote against the bill.
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Postby Ainin » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:28 am

Belmaria wrote:
Agritum wrote:Seems like Ron Paul's wet dream.

If you support economic tyranny, senator, then by all means vote against the bill.

Central banking isn't "tyranny"...
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Postby The Realm of God » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:30 am

Belmaria wrote:
Agritum wrote:Seems like Ron Paul's wet dream.

If you support economic tyranny, senator, then by all means vote against the bill.


Central banking is the only reason your bank notes are worth the same every single day but go ahead use bottle caps for currency if you want.
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:30 am

The Realm of God wrote:
Ainin wrote:"This bill hereby bans all forms of central banking on federal, state, and local levels."

Yeah, no.


Wait what, that means barter and rapidly fluctuating local credit systems in other words economic failure and reliance on foreign currency.

No, government will still be able to issue its own currency so there will be no barter. Government will not be allowed, however, to restrict interest rates on privately issued credit. The currency will be sound, as it will be backed by something of worth: bullion. There is a very informative video on our website about the dangers of central banking, if anyone would like to watch.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:31 am

Belmaria wrote:The Economic Responsibility Act is sound. Support it if you support a strong currency. The supporters of the bill have made a coalition website (it's in my sig) where people can find out tons of information about the bill. The website has the bill text, reasoning behind the bill, and an informational video on central banking.


I suppose the blond on the right is passable.
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Yanalia
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:31 am

Yanalia wrote:I just realized I forgot to specify crime levels(derelict/felony,etc) in the RCA. Any suggestions for those?
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Postby Mediciano » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:31 am

Belmaria wrote:
Agritum wrote:Seems like Ron Paul's wet dream.

If you support economic tyranny, senator, then by all means vote against the bill.

Don't worry, I will. We need a central bank to regulate currency, as without it things get messy fast. Andorra, Monaco, and Vatican City are the only countries without central banks. Do we want to join that list of miniscule, powerless nations?

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Postby Mishmahig » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:31 am

Belmaria wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
Wait what, that means barter and rapidly fluctuating local credit systems in other words economic failure and reliance on foreign currency.

No, government will still be able to issue its own currency so there will be no barter. Government will not be allowed, however, to restrict interest rates on privately issued credit. The currency will be sound, as it will be backed by something of worth: bullion. There is a very informative video on our website about the dangers of central banking, if anyone would like to watch.


Wait, you want us to be on the gold standard?

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Postby Mediciano » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:32 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Belmaria wrote:The Economic Responsibility Act is sound. Support it if you support a strong currency. The supporters of the bill have made a coalition website (it's in my sig) where people can find out tons of information about the bill. The website has the bill text, reasoning behind the bill, and an informational video on central banking.


I suppose the blond on the right is passable.

Your standards are too low...

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Postby The Realm of God » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:32 am

Belmaria wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
Wait what, that means barter and rapidly fluctuating local credit systems in other words economic failure and reliance on foreign currency.

No, government will still be able to issue its own currency so there will be no barter. Government will not be allowed, however, to restrict interest rates on privately issued credit. The currency will be sound, as it will be backed by something of worth: bullion. There is a very informative video on our website about the dangers of central banking, if anyone would like to watch.


Bullion fluctuates rapidly and requires aggressive mercantilistic policies to maintain enough to keep the currency stable, thus trade wars and rapidly fluctuating currencies.
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Postby Ainin » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:32 am

Belmaria wrote:as it will be backed by something of worth: bullion.

Make that "opposed" to a "oh god please no".
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Postby Liberated Counties » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:33 am

Belmaria wrote:The Economic Responsibility Act is sound. Support it if you support a strong currency. The supporters of the bill have made a coalition website (it's in my sig) where people can find out tons of information about the bill. The website has the bill text, reasoning behind the bill, and an informational video on central banking.


the guy whose second from the left looks incredibly shifty.

I'll sponsor this bill.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:33 am

Mediciano wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
I suppose the blond on the right is passable.

Your standards are too low...


For what I did not say ;) .
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Postby Belmaria » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:33 am

Mediciano wrote:
Belmaria wrote:If you support economic tyranny, senator, then by all means vote against the bill.

Don't worry, I will. We need a central bank to regulate currency, as without it things get messy fast. Andorra, Monaco, and Vatican City are the only countries without central banks. Do we want to join that list of miniscule, powerless nations?

Those nations are powerless because they are small, not because they refuse economic tyranny. Other nations that only recently started central banking were in the Nordic area, and we all know how you leftists love to reference them.
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Postby Mishmahig » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:33 am

Ainin wrote:
Belmaria wrote:as it will be backed by something of worth: bullion.

Make that "opposed" to a "oh god please no".


Agreed.

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