NSG Senate Chamber [NSG Senate]

[Divitaen]

Senator Divitaen votes NAY on the appointment of FreeSoc

[Quirina]

Senator Alexander D. Quirina says nay for FreeSoc as PM.

[Grenartia]

When does voting on that matter end?

I would assume the same amount of time as voting on legislation lasts, which is 48 hours IIRC.

Hmm. Let me check when it started.

[Grenartia]

I would assume the same amount of time as voting on legislation lasts, which is 48 hours IIRC.

Hmm. Let me check when it started.

Ok. Voting began on Wednesday, May 15, at 11:44PM Central Daylight time.

The last tally, on Friday, May 17, at 11:27PM, Central Daylight time, listed as follows:

FreeSoc Appointment Resolution

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Aye: 45
Nay: 12
Blank: 6
Total: 63
Abstentions: 1

The following votes, having been recorded on Saturday, May 18, at 12:00AM and 12:16AM (CDT) respectively, are therefore invalid.

Senator Divitaen votes NAY on the appointment of FreeSoc

Senator Alexander D. Quirina says nay for FreeSoc as PM.

Congratulations, Senator FreeSoc, on your confirmation of Prime Minister.

[Polvia]

Congratulations, Senator FreeSoc, on your confirmation of Prime Minister.

I offer my congratulations to The Right Honourable Prime Minister upon his affirmation by the Senate, and I look forward to seeing what is FreeSoc's agenda for the Senate.

[Great Nepal]

I am going to withhold my congratulations to a communist prime minister.

Either way, since Limiting Legislation Act, The Civil Treatment Act, Sexual Industry Regulation Act and The Anti-Slavery Act essentially deals with similar stuff, I move for omnibus bill combining all of the above listed bills and for this to be brought to vote.

[Greater Pokarnia]

Congratulations to FreeSoc!

I am going to withhold my congratulations to a communist prime minister.

Either way, since Limiting Legislation Act, The Civil Treatment Act, Sexual Industry Regulation Act and The Anti-Slavery Act essentially deals with similar stuff, I move for omnibus bill combining all of the above listed bills and for this to be brought to vote.

Just so long as it is made clear to everybody that they can still vote on each individual bill and don't have to vote for them combined. It seems like that wasn't made clear last time.

[Great Nepal]

I am going to withhold my congratulations to a communist prime minister.

Either way, since Limiting Legislation Act, The Civil Treatment Act, Sexual Industry Regulation Act and The Anti-Slavery Act essentially deals with similar stuff, I move for omnibus bill combining all of the above listed bills and for this to be brought to vote.

Just so long as it is made clear to everybody that they can still vote on each individual bill and don't have to vote for them combined. It seems like that wasn't made clear last time.

Yes, everyone voting should copy and paste this code and vote accordingly...

Code: Select all

[url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=239510&p=14389378#p14389378]Limiting Legislation Act[/url]:

[url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=235877&p=14175779&hilit=The+Civil+Treatment+Act#p14175779]The Civil Treatment Act[/url]:

[url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=14299468#p14299468]Sexual Industry Regulation Act[/url]:

[url=http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=14388607#p14388607]The Anti-Slavery Act[/url]:


[Grenartia]

Congratulations to FreeSoc!

I am going to withhold my congratulations to a communist prime minister.

Either way, since Limiting Legislation Act, The Civil Treatment Act, Sexual Industry Regulation Act and The Anti-Slavery Act essentially deals with similar stuff, I move for omnibus bill combining all of the above listed bills and for this to be brought to vote.

Just so long as it is made clear to everybody that they can still vote on each individual bill and don't have to vote for them combined. It seems like that wasn't made clear last time.

I'll third it.

[Vistulange]

Fourthed.

[Greater Pokarnia]

By the way, since voting on the PM is over, that would mean we may now start debate on the National Security Act.

I have no objections to this legislation.

[Great Nepal]

National Security Act
Urgency: Paramount | Sponsor: Trotskylvania

Findings and Policies

§ 1: As a fledgling nation, Aurentina has faced problems with national identity. With a divided electorate, and a number of legitimate concerns arising over the growth of partisan and other militias in the country, it is paramount that as part of organizing a government, the security of the people of the nation is protected.

While external threats have been minimal, and as of yet there is no evidence to suggest that the various militias intend an armed putsch against the government, their existence highlights another problem. Presently, law enforcement and security are the responsibility of local communities. Local police are increasingly inadequate in a highly mobile, globalized society.

Establishment of executive authority

§ 2: (a) A Ministry of Justice shall be established, under the aegis of the Council of Ministers, headed by a Minister of Justice.
(1) This act shall not abridge the right of local communities to establish their own police forces; However:
(2) The Ministry of Justice shall be responsible for implementing national policy regarding criminal justice (including but not limited to prosecution, public defense, incarceration, and rehabilitation), and regulating the conduct of both the National Police Force as established under Section 3, and the various local police forces.
(3) The Ministry of Justice shall be responsible for regulating the conduct of partisan militias according to law enacted by the Senate.

(b) A Ministry of Defense shall be established, under the aegis of the Council of Ministers, headed by a Minister of Defense.
(1) Nothing in this authorization shall be understood to conflict with the prerogative, established under the Republican Executive Act, of the President to act as commander-in-chief of the nation's armed forces.
(2) The Ministry of Defense shall be responsible for implementing defense policy regarding the uniformed armed forces established under Section 4, as enacted by the Council of Ministers.

National Police

§ 3: (a) The National Police Force [NPF] shall be established to protect against breaches of the peace, protect public safety and enforce criminal law.
(1) The NPF shall be governed by a Public Safety Commission appointed by the Ministry of Justice.
(2) Hiring for the NPF shall be conducted by a non-partisan Civil Service Commission, hereby established by this act as an independent government agency under the supervision of the Council of Ministers and the Senate.

(b) This act authorizes NPF to have universal jurisdiction over the entire nation, as well as any embassies established on foreign soil. As per this law, local police forces are required to cooperate with the NPF, and all matters that involve multiple local jurisdictions shall be the primary responsibility of the NPF.

National Defense Force

§ 4: (a) The National Defense Force (NDF) shall be established to protect against foreign invasion and insurrection.
(1) The NDF shall be divided into an Army, Navy, and Air Force.
(2) The NDF shall be an all volunteer military, and no provision of this act shall allow conscription. except during times of war. Conscription may only be authorized by Senate resolution during times when a state of war has been declared.
(3) The NDF shall not be used for domestic law enforcement except upon the declaration of a national state of emergency by the Senate.
(4) NDF personnel shall not be quartered in private homes without the consent of the occupants.
(5) The NDF is presently authorized to hold a maximum strength of 200,000 uniformed officers and enlisted persons.[/spoiler]

I would support this with minor alteration above. Conscription is always wrong and must be universally illegal regardless of circumstances with no exceptions.

[Potenco]

I would certainly vote yes on the NSA

[Fulflood]

I am going to withhold my congratulations to a communist prime minister.

Either way, since Limiting Legislation Act, The Civil Treatment Act, Sexual Industry Regulation Act and The Anti-Slavery Act essentially deals with similar stuff, I move for omnibus bill combining all of the above listed bills and for this to be brought to vote.

Fifthed.

[Atherille]

I would like to see Section 3 of the NSA completely removed and a sub-section added to Section 4 that dictates a 2 year compulsory military service period for all male citizens upon the graduation of secondary school.

As the act currently stands, I cannot vote for it.

[Greater Pokarnia]

I would like to see Section 3 of the NSA completely removed and a sub-section added to Section 4 that dictates a 2 year compulsory military service period for all male citizens upon the graduation of secondary school.

1.) Nobody should be forced into military service.
2.) Only conscripting males is sexist.

[Britcan]

Conscription should be banned in all but the most dire circumstances.

[Great Nepal]

Conscription should be banned in all but the most dire circumstances.

No, conscription should be banned in all circumstances.
If we cant get people to volunteer to defend their homes against enemy invasion, we have already failed.

[Britcan]

Conscription should be banned in all but the most dire circumstances.

No, conscription should be banned in all circumstances.
If we cant get people to volunteer to defend their homes against enemy invasion, we have already failed.

I disagree. In the event of us being invaded we need everyone doing their part to help. Conscription should be an absolute last resort though.

[Great Nepal]

No, conscription should be banned in all circumstances.
If we cant get people to volunteer to defend their homes against enemy invasion, we have already failed.

I disagree. In the event of us being invaded we need everyone doing their part to help. Conscription should be an absolute last resort though.

If we have done our jobs right, and if we are being invaded, the people will come along voluntarily to take up arms against invaders.

[Britcan]

I disagree. In the event of us being invaded we need everyone doing their part to help. Conscription should be an absolute last resort though.

If we have done our jobs right, and if we are being invaded, the people will come along voluntarily to take up arms against invaders.

Sadly there will always be those unwilling to do so. I do support using volunteers as far as possible but in dire times drastic action must be taken.

[Kouralia]

I disagree. In the event of us being invaded we need everyone doing their part to help. Conscription should be an absolute last resort though.

If we have done our jobs right, and if we are being invaded, the people will come along voluntarily to take up arms against invaders.

Britain needed conscription in WWII.

Are you saying that Britain was making a bad decision?

Also, who's Minister of Defence?

[Britcan]

If we have done our jobs right, and if we are being invaded, the people will come along voluntarily to take up arms against invaders.

Britain needed conscription in WWII.

Are you saying that Britain was making a bad decision?

Also, who's Minister of Defence?

I believe the Realm of God is going to get the position.

[Greater Pokarnia]

If we have done our jobs right, and if we are being invaded, the people will come along voluntarily to take up arms against invaders.

Britain needed conscription in WWII.

Are you saying that Britain was making a bad decision?

Also, who's Minister of Defence?

The ministers still need to be appointed by FreeSoc, but since he's in the Progress Coalition he's going to appoint the Realm of God to the position.

[Great Nepal]

If we have done our jobs right, and if we are being invaded, the people will come along voluntarily to take up arms against invaders.

Sadly there will always be those unwilling to do so. I do support using volunteers as far as possible but in dire times drastic action must be taken.

When we are forced to force people to take up arms to defend their homes, something has gone badly wrong and we have lost everything we stand for.