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Diopolis
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Postby Diopolis » Sun May 05, 2013 12:37 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Diopolis wrote:The bill as it now stands:

Free movement of people, information, and goods, please. Last thing we need is a nation criss-crossed by border fences and tariffs. Right now, only central government investments and services are allowed to cross the boundaries unmolested.

Edit:
>G.The governments of districts may not prohibit the free flow of people across their borders
Oh shit, I can't read. Make sure to mention goods and information though.

the current bill:
National subdivisions act
Author: Diopolis
Cosponsors: Greater Pokarnia
Recognizing the need for some sort of national subdivision system, the government of Aurentine hereby establishes electoral districts as national subdivisions to be run by their senators.
1. The governments of the individual districts are to be established by the senators representing said districts.
A. The governments of said districts may pass any law that does not contradict the laws of the national government of Aurentine
B. The governments of said districts must enforce both national and district laws, however national police forces may also enforce national law
2. The governments of individual districts shall remain subjurisdictions of the nation of Aurentine
A. The governments of the individual districts are responsible for collecting the taxes owed to the national government, however the national government may monitor/audit collection of taxes
B. The governments of the individual districts shall not block or restrict access to any services or information provided by the national government
C. In any area in which districts are held to be responsible, districts must pass a law addressing the issue within one week
D. District governments are responsible for regulating what types of firearms may be bought, sold, or possessed in their territory, as long as it is in accordance with clause 1A
E. No district shall declare war on any other district or foreign power, nor shall districts negotiate directly with foreign nations
F. No district shall secede or declare any degree of autonomy from Aurentine unless approved by the senate and 2/3 of the district's populace
G.The governments of districts may not prohibit the free flow of people, information, or goods across their borders

I move to put the national subdivisions act in queue for voting.
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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Sun May 05, 2013 12:37 pm

Yootoepia wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
Then, senator, I fail to see why anyone would agree to pay an extra 10% in taxes for.....no benefit I can see...


It's a compromise we pay for our semi-autonomy, which is what New Sea was implying.


But how is it semi-autonomy? The Senate's will still overrides any law that this area might pass...the only difference is that you get to pass some bills that will likely only cover some small areas that the Senate has not gotten to yet.

Eh, if you're willing to pay extra for that, go ahead.

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Soviet Canuckistan
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sun May 05, 2013 12:38 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Lemanrussland wrote:Free movement of people, information, and goods, please. Last thing we need is a nation criss-crossed by border fences and tariffs. Right now, only central government investments and services are allowed to cross the boundaries unmolested.

Edit:
>G.The governments of districts may not prohibit the free flow of people across their borders
Oh shit, I can't read. Make sure to mention goods and information though.

the current bill:
National subdivisions act
Author: Diopolis
Cosponsors: Greater Pokarnia
Recognizing the need for some sort of national subdivision system, the government of Aurentine hereby establishes electoral districts as national subdivisions to be run by their senators.
1. The governments of the individual districts are to be established by the senators representing said districts.
A. The governments of said districts may pass any law that does not contradict the laws of the national government of Aurentine
B. The governments of said districts must enforce both national and district laws, however national police forces may also enforce national law
2. The governments of individual districts shall remain subjurisdictions of the nation of Aurentine
A. The governments of the individual districts are responsible for collecting the taxes owed to the national government, however the national government may monitor/audit collection of taxes
B. The governments of the individual districts shall not block or restrict access to any services or information provided by the national government
C. In any area in which districts are held to be responsible, districts must pass a law addressing the issue within one week
D. District governments are responsible for regulating what types of firearms may be bought, sold, or possessed in their territory, as long as it is in accordance with clause 1A
E. No district shall declare war on any other district or foreign power, nor shall districts negotiate directly with foreign nations
F. No district shall secede or declare any degree of autonomy from Aurentine unless approved by the senate and 2/3 of the district's populace
G.The governments of districts may not prohibit the free flow of people, information, or goods across their borders

I move to put the national subdivisions act in queue for voting.

Seconded
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Postby CTALNH » Sun May 05, 2013 12:38 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Lemanrussland wrote:Free movement of people, information, and goods, please. Last thing we need is a nation criss-crossed by border fences and tariffs. Right now, only central government investments and services are allowed to cross the boundaries unmolested.

Edit:
>G.The governments of districts may not prohibit the free flow of people across their borders
Oh shit, I can't read. Make sure to mention goods and information though.

the current bill:
National subdivisions act
Author: Diopolis
Cosponsors: Greater Pokarnia
Recognizing the need for some sort of national subdivision system, the government of Aurentine hereby establishes electoral districts as national subdivisions to be run by their senators.
1. The governments of the individual districts are to be established by the senators representing said districts.
A. The governments of said districts may pass any law that does not contradict the laws of the national government of Aurentine
B. The governments of said districts must enforce both national and district laws, however national police forces may also enforce national law
2. The governments of individual districts shall remain subjurisdictions of the nation of Aurentine
A. The governments of the individual districts are responsible for collecting the taxes owed to the national government, however the national government may monitor/audit collection of taxes
B. The governments of the individual districts shall not block or restrict access to any services or information provided by the national government
C. In any area in which districts are held to be responsible, districts must pass a law addressing the issue within one week
D. District governments are responsible for regulating what types of firearms may be bought, sold, or possessed in their territory, as long as it is in accordance with clause 1A
E. No district shall declare war on any other district or foreign power, nor shall districts negotiate directly with foreign nations
F. No district shall secede or declare any degree of autonomy from Aurentine unless approved by the senate and 2/3 of the district's populace
G.The governments of districts may not prohibit the free flow of people, information, or goods across their borders

I move to put the national subdivisions act in queue for voting.

No....If I have to agree then improve it.
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Postby NSG Senate Administrators » Sun May 05, 2013 12:38 pm

TNST, no one is forcing you to stop. They want you to drop the purposeless argument about rights.

I am going to stop it right now. One more peep from anyone regarding something else that isn't about the proposals are going to get a TG from me. So stop everyone.

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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sun May 05, 2013 12:39 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Diopolis wrote:the current bill:

I move to put the national subdivisions act in queue for voting.

Seconded

Thirded.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby CTALNH » Sun May 05, 2013 12:40 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Seconded

Thirded.

The bill has room for clarification and improvement.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist

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Mishmahig
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Postby Mishmahig » Sun May 05, 2013 12:40 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Seconded

Thirded.


Fourthed.

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Agritum
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Postby Agritum » Sun May 05, 2013 12:40 pm

Britcan wrote:
Firearms Act (2013)
Urgency: Moderate


Drafted by: Britcan [TR]
Sponsored by: Ceannairceach [TR], Polvia [RG]

I) The private ownership of all fully automatic and burst-fire weapons, any firearm with a magazine capable of holding more than seven rounds, any firearms disguised as another item, rockets and mortars, any weapon designed or adapted for the discharge of noxious gases, fluids or other substance and any firearms that previously fell into a prohibited category but have since been converted is hereby banned.

II) The ownership of explosive, incendiary, noxious (biological, chemical) and armour piercing ammunition types by civilians is hereby banned.

III) The possession, provided the owner has a valid Firearms Ownership Certificate (henceforth known as a FOC), for each weapon, of all other types of firearm and their ammunition is permitted. All firearms must be kept in a secure storage unit on the property of the owner.

IV) In order to acquire a FOC, which shall be issued by the police, the owner must; be over 18 years of age, have no criminal record, be able to convince the police that they have a good reason for owning the weapon if the case manager requests them to do so, have no record of serious mental health issues, be able to provide the police with a valid form of identification, give the police two referees of good character who may be interviewed by the police at the discretion of the case manager, have the storage unit where the weapon will be kept inspected and deemed sufficiently secure by the police, go through an interview with a police officer if the case manager deems it necessary and submit to a thorough background check. Case managers are encouraged to go through as many steps as are necessary to confirm beyond reasonable doubt that the owner will not be a threat to others. Only when all these steps have been satisfactorily completed will a license be issued, which must be renewed every 5 years.

V) Good reason may include, but is not limited to, target shooting, hunting, self defence and the collection of historic and black-powder weapons, but not participation in a paramilitary. If the reason for owning the weapon is self defence the weapon must be kept inside the home of the owner at all times. Case managers are encouraged to evaluate if the reason for ownership justifies the gun they intend to purchase.

VI) The penalty for the possession of a firearm without a certificate is a maximum of fifteen years in prison and an unlimited fine. The penalty for removing a firearm intended for self defence from the home is the confiscation of all the owners weapons, the revocation of their FOCs and a fine of up to 10,000NSD.

VII) The ownership of air pistols with a muzzle energy of under 8J and air rifles of energy under 16J without a licence for any person over the age of 16 is permitted and a person under 16 years of age may use an airgun while under the supervision of an adult. Weapons of higher energy are considered firearms and must be licensed as such. If a person is convicted of engaging in a crime while in possession of an airgun of any power they are to be considered armed, regardless of wether it was loaded or if they intended to use it.

VIII) The ownership of airsoft or other soft air guns firing plastic BBs without a licence provided the muzzle of the gun is painted a bright orange is permitted. However, they cannot be sold to persons under the age of 16 although persons under the age of 16 are permitted to use them while under supervision by an adult. In order to own a realistically painted soft air or other plastic BB gun a person must be at least 16 years of age, have a valid reason for wanting to own one (i.e. for airsoft skirmishing or re-enacting) and be a regular at an insured airsoft site.

Support.

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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun May 05, 2013 12:41 pm

Agritum wrote:
Britcan wrote:
Firearms Act (2013)
Urgency: Moderate


Drafted by: Britcan [TR]
Sponsored by: Ceannairceach [TR], Polvia [RG]

I) The private ownership of all fully automatic and burst-fire weapons, any firearm with a magazine capable of holding more than seven rounds, any firearms disguised as another item, rockets and mortars, any weapon designed or adapted for the discharge of noxious gases, fluids or other substance and any firearms that previously fell into a prohibited category but have since been converted is hereby banned.

II) The ownership of explosive, incendiary, noxious (biological, chemical) and armour piercing ammunition types by civilians is hereby banned.

III) The possession, provided the owner has a valid Firearms Ownership Certificate (henceforth known as a FOC), for each weapon, of all other types of firearm and their ammunition is permitted. All firearms must be kept in a secure storage unit on the property of the owner.

IV) In order to acquire a FOC, which shall be issued by the police, the owner must; be over 18 years of age, have no criminal record, be able to convince the police that they have a good reason for owning the weapon if the case manager requests them to do so, have no record of serious mental health issues, be able to provide the police with a valid form of identification, give the police two referees of good character who may be interviewed by the police at the discretion of the case manager, have the storage unit where the weapon will be kept inspected and deemed sufficiently secure by the police, go through an interview with a police officer if the case manager deems it necessary and submit to a thorough background check. Case managers are encouraged to go through as many steps as are necessary to confirm beyond reasonable doubt that the owner will not be a threat to others. Only when all these steps have been satisfactorily completed will a license be issued, which must be renewed every 5 years.

V) Good reason may include, but is not limited to, target shooting, hunting, self defence and the collection of historic and black-powder weapons, but not participation in a paramilitary. If the reason for owning the weapon is self defence the weapon must be kept inside the home of the owner at all times. Case managers are encouraged to evaluate if the reason for ownership justifies the gun they intend to purchase.

VI) The penalty for the possession of a firearm without a certificate is a maximum of fifteen years in prison and an unlimited fine. The penalty for removing a firearm intended for self defence from the home is the confiscation of all the owners weapons, the revocation of their FOCs and a fine of up to 10,000NSD.

VII) The ownership of air pistols with a muzzle energy of under 8J and air rifles of energy under 16J without a licence for any person over the age of 16 is permitted and a person under 16 years of age may use an airgun while under the supervision of an adult. Weapons of higher energy are considered firearms and must be licensed as such. If a person is convicted of engaging in a crime while in possession of an airgun of any power they are to be considered armed, regardless of wether it was loaded or if they intended to use it.

VIII) The ownership of airsoft or other soft air guns firing plastic BBs without a licence provided the muzzle of the gun is painted a bright orange is permitted. However, they cannot be sold to persons under the age of 16 although persons under the age of 16 are permitted to use them while under supervision by an adult. In order to own a realistically painted soft air or other plastic BB gun a person must be at least 16 years of age, have a valid reason for wanting to own one (i.e. for airsoft skirmishing or re-enacting) and be a regular at an insured airsoft site.

Support.

Support.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sun May 05, 2013 12:41 pm

Britcan wrote:
Firearms Act (2013)
Urgency: Moderate


Drafted by: Britcan [TR]
Sponsored by: Ceannairceach [TR], Polvia [RG]

I) The private ownership of all fully automatic and burst-fire weapons, any firearm with a magazine capable of holding more than seven rounds, any firearms disguised as another item, rockets and mortars, any weapon designed or adapted for the discharge of noxious gases, fluids or other substance and any firearms that previously fell into a prohibited category but have since been converted is hereby banned.

II) The ownership of explosive, incendiary, noxious (biological, chemical) and armour piercing ammunition types by civilians is hereby banned.

III) The possession, provided the owner has a valid Firearms Ownership Certificate (henceforth known as a FOC), for each weapon, of all other types of firearm and their ammunition is permitted. All firearms must be kept in a secure storage unit on the property of the owner.

IV) In order to acquire a FOC, which shall be issued by the police, the owner must; be over 18 years of age, have no criminal record, be able to convince the police that they have a good reason for owning the weapon if the case manager requests them to do so, have no record of serious mental health issues, be able to provide the police with a valid form of identification, give the police two referees of good character who may be interviewed by the police at the discretion of the case manager, have the storage unit where the weapon will be kept inspected and deemed sufficiently secure by the police, go through an interview with a police officer if the case manager deems it necessary and submit to a thorough background check. Case managers are encouraged to go through as many steps as are necessary to confirm beyond reasonable doubt that the owner will not be a threat to others. Only when all these steps have been satisfactorily completed will a license be issued, which must be renewed every 5 years.

V) Good reason may include, but is not limited to, target shooting, hunting, self defence and the collection of historic and black-powder weapons, but not participation in a paramilitary. If the reason for owning the weapon is self defence the weapon must be kept inside the home of the owner at all times. Case managers are encouraged to evaluate if the reason for ownership justifies the gun they intend to purchase.

VI) The penalty for the possession of a firearm without a certificate is a maximum of fifteen years in prison and an unlimited fine. The penalty for removing a firearm intended for self defence from the home is the confiscation of all the owners weapons, the revocation of their FOCs and a fine of up to 10,000NSD.

VII) The ownership of air pistols with a muzzle energy of under 8J and air rifles of energy under 16J without a licence for any person over the age of 16 is permitted and a person under 16 years of age may use an airgun while under the supervision of an adult. Weapons of higher energy are considered firearms and must be licensed as such. If a person is convicted of engaging in a crime while in possession of an airgun of any power they are to be considered armed, regardless of wether it was loaded or if they intended to use it.

VIII) The ownership of airsoft or other soft air guns firing plastic BBs without a licence provided the muzzle of the gun is painted a bright orange is permitted. However, they cannot be sold to persons under the age of 16 although persons under the age of 16 are permitted to use them while under supervision by an adult. In order to own a realistically painted soft air or other plastic BB gun a person must be at least 16 years of age, have a valid reason for wanting to own one (i.e. for airsoft skirmishing or re-enacting) and be a regular at an insured airsoft site.

Against with a passion.

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Postby Mishmahig » Sun May 05, 2013 12:41 pm

Agritum wrote:
Britcan wrote:
Firearms Act (2013)
Urgency: Moderate


Drafted by: Britcan [TR]
Sponsored by: Ceannairceach [TR], Polvia [RG]

I) The private ownership of all fully automatic and burst-fire weapons, any firearm with a magazine capable of holding more than seven rounds, any firearms disguised as another item, rockets and mortars, any weapon designed or adapted for the discharge of noxious gases, fluids or other substance and any firearms that previously fell into a prohibited category but have since been converted is hereby banned.

II) The ownership of explosive, incendiary, noxious (biological, chemical) and armour piercing ammunition types by civilians is hereby banned.

III) The possession, provided the owner has a valid Firearms Ownership Certificate (henceforth known as a FOC), for each weapon, of all other types of firearm and their ammunition is permitted. All firearms must be kept in a secure storage unit on the property of the owner.

IV) In order to acquire a FOC, which shall be issued by the police, the owner must; be over 18 years of age, have no criminal record, be able to convince the police that they have a good reason for owning the weapon if the case manager requests them to do so, have no record of serious mental health issues, be able to provide the police with a valid form of identification, give the police two referees of good character who may be interviewed by the police at the discretion of the case manager, have the storage unit where the weapon will be kept inspected and deemed sufficiently secure by the police, go through an interview with a police officer if the case manager deems it necessary and submit to a thorough background check. Case managers are encouraged to go through as many steps as are necessary to confirm beyond reasonable doubt that the owner will not be a threat to others. Only when all these steps have been satisfactorily completed will a license be issued, which must be renewed every 5 years.

V) Good reason may include, but is not limited to, target shooting, hunting, self defence and the collection of historic and black-powder weapons, but not participation in a paramilitary. If the reason for owning the weapon is self defence the weapon must be kept inside the home of the owner at all times. Case managers are encouraged to evaluate if the reason for ownership justifies the gun they intend to purchase.

VI) The penalty for the possession of a firearm without a certificate is a maximum of fifteen years in prison and an unlimited fine. The penalty for removing a firearm intended for self defence from the home is the confiscation of all the owners weapons, the revocation of their FOCs and a fine of up to 10,000NSD.

VII) The ownership of air pistols with a muzzle energy of under 8J and air rifles of energy under 16J without a licence for any person over the age of 16 is permitted and a person under 16 years of age may use an airgun while under the supervision of an adult. Weapons of higher energy are considered firearms and must be licensed as such. If a person is convicted of engaging in a crime while in possession of an airgun of any power they are to be considered armed, regardless of wether it was loaded or if they intended to use it.

VIII) The ownership of airsoft or other soft air guns firing plastic BBs without a licence provided the muzzle of the gun is painted a bright orange is permitted. However, they cannot be sold to persons under the age of 16 although persons under the age of 16 are permitted to use them while under supervision by an adult. In order to own a realistically painted soft air or other plastic BB gun a person must be at least 16 years of age, have a valid reason for wanting to own one (i.e. for airsoft skirmishing or re-enacting) and be a regular at an insured airsoft site.

Support.


Right, forgot to register my support for this as well. Thanks for reminding me.

Supporting this.

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Postby Britcan » Sun May 05, 2013 12:41 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Agritum wrote:Support.

Support.

Could I add you two as sponsors?

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun May 05, 2013 12:42 pm

Britcan wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Support.

Could I add you two as sponsors?

Sure.
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Postby Arglorand » Sun May 05, 2013 12:42 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Agritum wrote:Support.

Support.

Support.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sun May 05, 2013 12:44 pm

Here is the second draft, please tell me any other feedback. Thanks

Note: If you have any concerns with the wording and have a better replacement, please tell me, I admit I'm bad with wordings so if you could suggest a better one it would be awesome.
The Nationality Act
Drafted by: Nationalist Eminral Republic
Co-drafted by: Quirina
Sponsored by: Diopolis [CMP]
The Senate of the nation that has yet to be named

Recognizing the need in establishing uniform and solid nationality law in building a solid country and building the framework for future immigration laws.

Realizing that the nation have no uniform federal laws regarding nationality

Hereby mandates that anyone that falls under the category is a national of the nation:
  • Anyone born after the law have been passed is a national
  • A registered and recognized person at the time the law is passed is a national

Hereby mandates that a child is a national if:
  • The child is born within the territory of the country by the time the law is passed
  • If either the parent of the child is a national on the time the child is born
  • When the father, prior to the time of the birth, is a national
  • The child whose father or mother is a member of the military shall be consider a national

Whereas the child (excluding the child who have once been a national) under or at the twenty-one years of age have his/her father or mother acknowledged paternity or maternity respectively may apply for a nationality, if the father or mother who have made the acknowledgement is a national and if the father or mother is a national at the time of his/her death

Whereas, anyone who have reached the following requirement is eligible for a nationality by applying to the Ministry of Justice
  • Have domiciled within the country for 3 years
  • At least 18 years of age and/or have full legal capacity to consent according to the laws of his/her home country
  • Have upright conduct and have not been convicted of felony or any other serious crimes. The applicant must have no standing charges of felony or any other crimes against them at the time of the application of nationality or it might result to cancellation of the application process.
  • Able to secure his/her livelihood, his/her spouse and/or other relatives of whom the applicant is sharing common expenses
  • Have not formed a group advocating the overthrow of the legitimate government, threaten to endanger the safety and security of the public and threaten the national security of the country
  • Must be literate of the official language. The applicant must undergo a proficiency test that is approved by the government in order to determine that applicant's literacy to the language.

Hereby mandates that anyone who have done the following shall have their nationality revoked
  • anyone who have voluntarily pledged loyalty to other nation by serving in the foreign armed forces
  • anyone who have resided in a foreign country for 7 consecutive years without informing the government through its embassies shall have their nationality revoked. Exceptions shall be made if the government have summoned them for a certain cause.
  • anyone who have made a notification to the Ministry of Justice renouncing their nationality. The person who have made the notification shall have their nationality revoked at the time the notification have been received.
  • a national who have been born to a foreign country shall have their nationality revoked unless the person have declared his/her intention to retain nationality.

Whereas, the following can be done to retain their nationality
  • In order to retain lost nationality, a notification shall be made by the person to the Ministry of Justice declaring their intent to retain their nationality

Whereas, the government is required to send a written order if the nationality is being taken away from an individual with explanations regarding the decision.

Whereas, anyone applying or reapplying for nationality must take an exam, containing 60 questions about the history, culture and the system of the government of the country. The applicant must answer minimum of 40 questions in order for the applicant to pass the exam.

Whereas, the applicant's children under the age of 18 shall be carried by the applicant should they pass the exam.

Whereas, any individual who have other nationality shall be considered dual-citizens and shall still enjoy the full protection and services of the state like any other nationals.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun May 05, 2013 12:46 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Support.

Support.

Against
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
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Postby Ziegenhain » Sun May 05, 2013 12:47 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Support.

Against


Super, strongly, absolutely, completely, totally, 100% against.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun May 05, 2013 12:48 pm

Ziegenhain wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Against


Super, strongly, absolutely, completely, totally, 100% against.

Against the firearms act.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun May 05, 2013 12:53 pm

Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:Here is the second draft, please tell me any other feedback. Thanks

Note: If you have any concerns with the wording and have a better replacement, please tell me, I admit I'm bad with wordings so if you could suggest a better one it would be awesome.
The Nationality Act
Drafted by: Nationalist Eminral Republic
Co-drafted by: Quirina

The Senate of the nation that has yet to be named

Recognizing the need in establishing uniform and solid nationality law in building a solid country and building the framework for future immigration laws.

Realizing that the nation have no uniform federal laws regarding nationality

Hereby mandates that anyone that falls under the category is a national of the nation:
  • Anyone born after the law have been passed is a national
  • A registered and recognized person at the time the law is passed is a national

Hereby mandates that a child is a national if:
  • The child is born within the territory of the country by the time the law is passed
  • If either the parent of the child is a national on the time the child is born
  • When the father, prior to the time of the birth, is a national
  • The child whose father or mother is a member of the military shall be consider a national

Whereas the child (excluding the child who have once been a national) under or at the twenty-one years of age have his/her father or mother acknowledged paternity or maternity respectively may apply for a nationality, if the father or mother who have made the acknowledgement is a national and if the father or mother is a national at the time of his/her death

Whereas, anyone who have reached the following requirement is eligible for a nationality by applying to the Ministry of Justice
  • Have domiciled within the country for 3 years
  • At least 18 years of age and/or have full legal capacity to consent according to the laws of his/her home country
  • Have upright conduct and have not been convicted of felony or any other serious crimes. The applicant must have no standing charges of felony or any other crimes against them at the time of the application of nationality or it might result to cancellation of the application process.
  • Able to secure his/her livelihood, his/her spouse and/or other relatives of whom the applicant is sharing common expenses
  • Have not formed a group advocating the overthrow of the legitimate government, threaten to endanger the safety and security of the public and threaten the national security of the country
  • Must be literate of the official language. The applicant must undergo a proficiency test that is approved by the government in order to determine that applicant's literacy to the language.

Hereby mandates that anyone who have done the following shall have their nationality revoked
  • anyone who have voluntarily pledged loyalty to other nation by serving in the foreign armed forces
  • anyone who have resided in a foreign country for 7 consecutive years without informing the government through its embassies shall have their nationality revoked. Exceptions shall be made if the government have summoned them for a certain cause.
  • anyone who have made a notification to the Ministry of Justice renouncing their nationality. The person who have made the notification shall have their nationality revoked at the time the notification have been received.
  • a national who have been born to a foreign country shall have their nationality revoked unless the person have declared his/her intention to retain nationality.

Whereas, the following can be done to retain their nationality
  • In order to retain lost nationality, a notification shall be made by the person to the Ministry of Justice declaring their intent to retain their nationality

Whereas, the government is required to send a written order if the nationality is being taken away from an individual with explanations regarding the decision.

Whereas, anyone applying or reapplying for nationality must take an exam, containing 60 questions about the history, culture and the system of the government of the country. The applicant must answer minimum of 40 questions in order for the applicant to pass the exam.

Whereas, the applicant's children under the age of 18 shall be carried by the applicant should they pass the exam.

Whereas, any individual who have other nationality shall be considered dual-citizens and shall still enjoy the full protection and services of the state like any other nationals.

Support.
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The Republic of Lanos
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Sun May 05, 2013 12:58 pm

I suggest making issuance of a license shall-issue and not may-issue. May-issue will have instances of those refusing to grant licenses even if its legal.

Also, against the whole damn restrictive socialist gun law in the first place.

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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun May 05, 2013 1:02 pm

The National Imperialist-Freedom Party opposes this Firearms Act, and will refuse to disarm the PSF in the event it passes.

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Postby Aeken » Sun May 05, 2013 1:03 pm

Hathradic States wrote:The National Imperialist-Freedom Party opposes this Firearms Act, and will refuse to disarm the PSF in the event it passes.

Will the PSF resist the state police?

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Postby Yanalia » Sun May 05, 2013 1:03 pm

Hathradic States wrote:The National Imperialist-Freedom Party opposes this Firearms Act, and will refuse to disarm the PSF in the event it passes.


I support your opposition to the Act; however, the law as created by the Senate must be followed. If this Act is passed, it is law and must be obeyed.
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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun May 05, 2013 1:04 pm

Aeken wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:The National Imperialist-Freedom Party opposes this Firearms Act, and will refuse to disarm the PSF in the event it passes.

Will the PSF resist the state police?

Will the State police be the ones attempting to disarm us?

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