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Len Hyet
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Postby Len Hyet » Sun May 05, 2013 12:08 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:The Totally Rads.

Is it me or the totally rad party is full of social fascists?

*coughs*
A-hem. That sir, was uncalled for.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun May 05, 2013 12:08 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:That is slander, sir, and thus against the Ethics Act.


No. That is freedom of speech at it's finest. And I think you have insulted the Objectivist movement and the Semi-Autonomy idea multiple times.

Kindly point to where I did, Senator. And under the Ethics Act, slander is not protected by freedom of speech.

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Postby Arglorand » Sun May 05, 2013 12:08 pm

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Arglorand wrote:Yes.

How many years would you like it to be?

I would prefer two. Three at the most.
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Postby Ziegenhain » Sun May 05, 2013 12:08 pm

You all are acting like idiots right now if I do say so myself.

Lets get to drafting stuff again.
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Postby Aeken » Sun May 05, 2013 12:08 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
No. That is freedom of speech at it's finest. And I think you have insulted the Objectivist movement and the Semi-Autonomy idea multiple times.

Kindly point to where I did, Senator. And under the Ethics Act, slander is not protected by freedom of speech.

Indeed.

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Postby Silent Majority » Sun May 05, 2013 12:08 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:The Totally Rads.

Is it me or the totally rad party is full of social fascists?


That's rather amusing coming from a stalinist
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun May 05, 2013 12:08 pm

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No. We have no currency. But the USD exists, and so does gold. So, because of the neglect to actaully make a state currency, we will continue to trade in makeshift or foreign currencies.

The Gulch does not exist yet, nor is its autonomy legitimate if it were real yet. If your bill passes, then it is legitimate.


The Gulch is a place, so it does exist. it's autonomy is the question. We are waiting for the bill to pass.
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Postby Arglorand » Sun May 05, 2013 12:09 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:The Totally Rads.

Is it me or the totally rad party is full of social fascists?

You Stalinists and your projection.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun May 05, 2013 12:09 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Is it me or the totally rad party is full of social fascists?

That is slander, sir, and thus against the Ethics Act.

No?

I asked a question I didn't swear or slander anyone.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun May 05, 2013 12:09 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
No. That is freedom of speech at it's finest. And I think you have insulted the Objectivist movement and the Semi-Autonomy idea multiple times.

Kindly point to where I did, Senator. And under the Ethics Act, slander is not protected by freedom of speech.


So it's only ok for you to slander me?

Oh, wait. Ceanna has the "Rule of Law" behind him!
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Postby Aeken » Sun May 05, 2013 12:09 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Aeken wrote:The Gulch does not exist yet, nor is its autonomy legitimate if it were real yet. If your bill passes, then it is legitimate.


The Gulch is a place, so it does exist. it's autonomy is the question. We are waiting for the bill to pass.

There are no national subdivisions, or a place of geography yet that is official. It does not exist.

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Postby CTALNH » Sun May 05, 2013 12:10 pm

Arglorand wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Is it me or the totally rad party is full of social fascists?

You Stalinists and your projection.

Yes what?

And we prefer to be called marxists leninists.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun May 05, 2013 12:10 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:That is slander, sir, and thus against the Ethics Act.

No?

I asked a question I didn't swear or slander anyone.

You disparaged myself and the TR by rhetorically questioning our motives and persons. It was slander.

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Postby Britcan » Sun May 05, 2013 12:10 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Kindly point to where I did, Senator. And under the Ethics Act, slander is not protected by freedom of speech.


So it's only ok for you to slander me?

Oh, wait. Ceanna has the "Rule of Law" behind him!

Please point out where he slandered you.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby CTALNH » Sun May 05, 2013 12:10 pm

Silent Majority wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Is it me or the totally rad party is full of social fascists?


That's rather amusing coming from a stalinist

Hey we invented the term....

And you don't even know what it means...

I bet 5 USD.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Aquitayne » Sun May 05, 2013 12:11 pm

Wow, haven't tagged myself here yet. Anyway, hello! What's we arguin' about todeh?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun May 05, 2013 12:11 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Kindly point to where I did, Senator. And under the Ethics Act, slander is not protected by freedom of speech.


So it's only ok for you to slander me?

Oh, wait. Ceanna has the "Rule of Law" behind him!

Please, point to my slander and I will gladly seek punishment as per senate rules. Don't change the subject.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun May 05, 2013 12:11 pm

Aquitayne wrote:Wow, haven't tagged myself here yet. Anyway, hello! What's we arguin' about todeh?

The Objectivists seek to receive special treatment by being considered semi-autonomous while still having full say in senate proceedings.

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sun May 05, 2013 12:12 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Nationalist Eminral Republic wrote:How many years would you like it to be?

I would prefer two. Three at the most.

I'll make it 3 then, thanks for your comment.
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The New Sea Territory
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun May 05, 2013 12:12 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
So it's only ok for you to slander me?

Oh, wait. Ceanna has the "Rule of Law" behind him!

Please, point to my slander and I will gladly seek punishment as per senate rules. Don't change the subject.


I said this way back, about ten posts ago. You changed the subject.

But I will continue to use my freedom of speech, Ethics Act or not. I will simply not slander you in this forum.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun May 05, 2013 12:12 pm

Len Hyet wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Is it me or the totally rad party is full of social fascists?

*coughs*
A-hem. That sir, was uncalled for.

:palm:

Half of you people don't even know what this term means.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sun May 05, 2013 12:13 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Please, point to my slander and I will gladly seek punishment as per senate rules. Don't change the subject.


I said this way back, about ten posts ago. You changed the subject.

But I will continue to use my freedom of speech, Ethics Act or not. I will simply not slander you in this forum.

Alright, if you have no evidence, then kindly, as they say where I am from, shut the fuck up. I will not stand for false accusations.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun May 05, 2013 12:13 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Aquitayne wrote:Wow, haven't tagged myself here yet. Anyway, hello! What's we arguin' about todeh?

The Objectivists seek to receive special treatment by being considered semi-autonomous while still having full say in senate proceedings.



And that happens in real life. Look at the Russian Federation. Look at every state in America.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun May 05, 2013 12:14 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
CTALNH wrote:No?

I asked a question I didn't swear or slander anyone.

You disparaged myself and the TR by rhetorically questioning our motives and persons. It was slander.

Like the people in TR have done many times by asking us why we need our paramilitary?
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
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T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun May 05, 2013 12:14 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
I said this way back, about ten posts ago. You changed the subject.

But I will continue to use my freedom of speech, Ethics Act or not. I will simply not slander you in this forum.

Alright, if you have no evidence, then kindly, as they say where I am from, shut the fuck up. I will not stand for false accusations.


And this is not slander? This is not against your Ethics Act?

So, it only applies when the Totally Rad party is targeted. Tyranny by majority. The largets party simply attacks it's smaller partners.
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