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[CTALNH]

Meaningless post for egosearch.

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[Priory Academy USSR]

Could anybody else get behind a bill to get rid of all these ridiculous partisan paramilitaries running around? It's just bound to start a civil war eventually and ruin this nation.

I'd say that the National Security Act, combined with the PLEA, should be enough to bring them down a few notches. Completely removing their military abilities can wait if we have them under control.

[Britcan]

My ideas:

Militias/paramilitary groups must register with government
Registered political parties may not provide funding, equipment, training, or any other good or service to a militia/paramilitary group
No registered political party may communicate with a militia/paramilitary group (individual members can, just not the party/militia itself)

Alternatively we could just impose UK style gun control which will make any paramilitary group pretty useless.

[CTALNH]

Could anybody else get behind a bill to get rid of all these ridiculous partisan paramilitaries running around? It's just bound to start a civil war eventually and ruin this nation.

I'd say that the National Security Act, combined with the PLEA, should be enough to bring them down a few notches. Completely removing their military abilities can wait if we have them under control.

Just try.

[Costa Alegria]

Why are the USLP organizing handouts for the petit-bourgeoisie?

As per our programme, the USLP advocates strengthening the position of both the working class, and its strategic allies against monopoly-capital, such as the peasantry, the petty-bourgeoisie, the lumpenproletariat, the soldiery and the intelligentsia. In a transition towards a socialist economy, the stranglehold monopoly-capital has over the economy needs to be fought by a broader mass-based progressive movement by the proletariat and its allies, and as a part in this broader strategy to transition into the Dictatorship of the Proletariat and eventually socialism, the petty-bourgeoisie also needs their position strengthened before their property can be voluntarily transitioned into fully socialistic enterprises with rising consciousness.

And a party that is currently participating in a coalition involving conservatives, and backing a social-liberal, can't really say much .

Economic wise, yes. Socially? Same boat as everyone else.

[Wolfmanne]

Understanding that many citizens may be unable to afford the care of a GP and that these people must be provided for.

Stating that in the long run, such provisions will only benefit our people and also the economy, as a healthy population is a necessity for a healthy economy.

This Act establishes the following:

(i) A national health care system will provide free to low-cost care at the point of service to all citizens. Expenses shall be covered by government taxation revenue. All health care includes, but is not limited to: hospital care, GP care, dentistry, orthodontics, specialist care, psychiatric care, all necessary surgery, home help, all necessary treatments, counselling, prescription mecidines etc.

(ii) The National Health Board (NHB), subordinate to the Ministry of Health, shall be set up to oversee our health system. The responsibilities of the NHB include, but are not limited to, the building of government hospitals, the hiring of medical staff, the setting of standards for our health industry, and the regulation of all healthcare professionals.

(iii) Co-pay, to prevent over-utilization and control costs, will be levied on non-emergency and non-chronic care, with exceptions for some preventative care, such as checkups and preventative procedures. Rates of co-pay will be set by the NHB, however, a citizens total co-pay may not exceed more than 5 percent of the average wage per annum. If a citizen exceeds that expenditure cap, they are exempted from paying co-pay for the rest of the fiscal year.

(iv) All citizens shall be free to purchase private health services, outside of the national health system, if they wish to do so.

(v) Non-critical medical procedures (for example: sex changes or non-imperative plastic surgery) are not covered by the national healthcare system. Citizens seeking those kinds of operations will have to go to the private sector.

I modified article iii to include your proposal for an expenditure cap.

Universal Healthcare Act [Modified]

Urgency: High

Originally Written by: Chestaan[C]

Modified by: Lemanrussland[LD]

Original bill Co-Sponsored by: Shrillland[RG], Argorland[TR], Maklohi Vai[LD], TerraPublica[C], Wolfmanne[PC].

Modified bill Co-Sponsored by: Greater Pokarnia[C], Othelos[PC], Soviet Canuckistan[LD]

Recognising that healthcare is a right that must be provided to all in our great and unnamed nation.

Realising that this can only be achieved by providing low cost and easily accessible hospital care to all our citizens.

Understanding that many citizens may be unable to afford the care of a GP and that these people must be provided for.

Stating that in the long run, such provisions will only benefit our people and also the economy, as a healthy population is a necessity for a healthy economy.

This Act establishes the following:

(i) A national health care system will provide free to low-cost care at the point of service to all citizens. Expenses shall be covered by government taxation revenue. All health care includes, but is not limited to: hospital care, GP care, dentistry, orthodontics, specialist care, psychiatric care, all necessary surgery, home help, all necessary treatments, counselling, prescription mecidines etc.

(ii) The National Health Board (NHB), subordinate to the Ministry of Health, shall be set up to oversee our health system. The responsibilities of the NHB include, but are not limited to, the building of government hospitals, the hiring of medical staff, the setting of standards for our health industry, and the regulation of all healthcare professionals.

(iii) Co-pay, to prevent over-utilization and control costs, will be levied on non-emergency and non-chronic care, with exceptions for some preventative care, such as checkups and preventative procedures. Rates of co-pay will be set by the NHB, however, a citizens total co-pay may not exceed more than 5 percent of the average wage per annum. If a citizen exceeds that expenditure cap, they are exempted from paying co-pay for the rest of the fiscal year.

(iv) All citizens shall be free to purchase private health services, outside of the national health system, if they wish to do so.

(v) Non-critical medical procedures (for example: sex changes or non-imperative plastic surgery) are not covered by the national healthcare system. Citizens seeking those kinds of operations will have to go to the private sector.

I modified article iii to include your proposal for an expenditure cap.[/quote]
I personally believe that we should remove clause III. Co-pay is a regressive action against this nation's poor. We need to stand for all, rich and poor. We are allowing the private health care system to exist, however we should not punish the poor.

I personally believe that there should be more organisation in this. The hospital should be more centralised, like the NHS and we should establish what can and can't be done. To this, I propose that the English style of organisation is adopted. It has provided an efficient health care service for years and for those to come, it will continue to do so. We should also take this sweet time to officially establish our Ambulance service. I propose the addition of these clauses.

-1. Establishes a series of National Health Board Regional Authorities to commission health services on behalf of the NHB and to ensure that regional priorities can be set.
- 1.1. The National Health Board Regional Authorities are to be allocated a budget set by the National Health Board, based upon need, which is factored by things such as population, sickness rate etc.
- 1.2. The National Health Board Regional Authorities shall be run by a board consisting of health care professionals and paid Directors to ensure that the balance between a professional opinion and monetary pragmatism is maintained.
- 1.3. The National Health Board Regional Authorities are to have a series of trusts under them: the Ambulance Service Trusts and the Medical Care Trusts.
- 1.3.1. The Ambulance Services Trusts shall provide emergency medical services within their assigned area.
- 1.3.1.1. The St John's Ambulance in Aurentina and the Aurentinian Red Cross may provide staffing and vehicles to the Ambulance Services Trusts and they shall receive special status in recognition for their work.
- 1.3.1.2. The Ambulance Services Trusts are permitted to contract or subcontract qualified providers from the private sector and charities in order to improve efficiency.
- 1.3.1.2. Ambulance Services Trusts will be overseen by a board of Paramedics, executive and non-executive Directors.
- 1.3.2. The Medical Care Trusts shall oversee all primary and secondary care within their assigned area, with all polyclinics, hospitals, clinics, general practices etc coming under them.
- 1.3.2.1. The Medical Care Trusts will be overseen by a board of medical professionals, executive and non-executive Directors.
- 1.3.2.2. The Medical Care Trusts Authorities are permitted to contract or subcontract qualified providers from the private sector and charities in order to improve efficiency.
- 1.4.3. The National Health Board Regional Authorities are to co-ordinate strategy for primary care, secondary and emergency medical services to Ambulance Services Trusts and Medical Care Trusts but shall not take a direct role, for that is the responsibility of the relevant trusts. They are to provide tertiary care and quaternary care, plus maintain an Air Ambulance and if necessary, a Sea/River Ambulance.
- 1.4.3.1. The National Health Board Regional Authorities are permitted to contract or subcontract qualified providers from the private sector and charities in order to improve efficiency.
- 1.4.3.2. The St John's Ambulance in Aurentina and the Aurentinian Red Cross may provide staffing and vehicles to the National Health Board Regional Authorities and they shall receive special status in recognition for their work.
- 1.5. The Office of Medical Care and Ambulance Service Regulation (Ofmed) is established to regulate the NHB Regional Authorities, trusts and institutions of medical care.
- 1.5.1. Ofmed shall inspect all Regional Authorities, trusts and institutions of medical care, on behalf of the National Health Board, the Ministry of Health and the Senate to ensure that they meet regulations by these three bodies.
- 1.5.2. The National Health Board shall establish a series of gradings that Ofmed inspectors will award once they conclude an inspection.
- 1.5.3. If a Regional Authority, trust or institution of medical care fails to obtain a reasonable, Ofmed are permitted to step in and temporarily administrate the said body until it's grade is raised to a more acceptable level.
- 1.5.4. Ofmed reserves the right to end a contract or subcontract by a private medical provider if it fails to improve efficiency in the service that it's providing.
- 1.5.5. Ofmed shall also regulate an economic activities by the medical private sector to ensure that they comply with national law and they will grade institution of medical care, however in the event of a poor standard of care, Ofmed may not administrate private medical providers should they fail to meet national standards but it may issue a lawsuit against the said institution and should the lawsuit be successful, then another company is to step in and take over. If no buyer can be found, then relevant NHB trust shall take over all assets.

[Wolfmanne]

Also, I am creating a new National Security Act to ban paramilitaries (and don't worry, I'll deal with loopholes), establish a force of gendarmes and a moderate form of gun control.

[New Freedomstan]

Also, I am creating a new National Security Act to ban paramilitaries (and don't worry, I'll deal with loopholes), establish a force of gendarmes and a moderate form of gun control.

Gun control is tyranny, and we should do what we can to guarantee our citizens the right to keep and bear arms. Possibly also to arm bears, although that is negotiable.

[Wolfmanne]

Also, I am creating a new National Security Act to ban paramilitaries (and don't worry, I'll deal with loopholes), establish a force of gendarmes and a moderate form of gun control.

Gun control is tyranny, and we should do what we can to guarantee our citizens the right to keep and bear arms. Possibly also to arm bears, although that is negotiable.

As a gun owner in the UK, I don't see a problem with UK-style gun control.

[New Freedomstan]

Gun control is tyranny, and we should do what we can to guarantee our citizens the right to keep and bear arms. Possibly also to arm bears, although that is negotiable.

As a gun owner in the UK, I don't see a problem with UK-style gun control.

As a gun owner in Norway, I see a problem with an even more strict form of gun control than we have here.

[Costa Alegria]

Also, I am creating a new National Security Act to ban paramilitaries (and don't worry, I'll deal with loopholes), establish a force of gendarmes and a moderate form of gun control.

Bastard! That was my idea.

[Wolfmanne]

Also, I am creating a new National Security Act to ban paramilitaries (and don't worry, I'll deal with loopholes), establish a force of gendarmes and a moderate form of gun control.

Bastard! That was my idea.

Ah. My bad. Shall we co-operate on this?

EDIT: Seriously, no one has made a nickname for me like King Compromise or something?

[Costa Alegria]

Bastard! That was my idea.

Ah. My bad. Shall we co-operate on this?

Yeah, why not? A couple of things. Firstly, I don't think this is an Anglophone nation and therefore I don't believe that a St Johns is really required. And I would also be very happy to create a livery for the ambulance and gendarmes based on whatever colours one wishes.

[Wolfmanne]

As a gun owner in the UK, I don't see a problem with UK-style gun control.

As a gun owner in Norway, I see a problem with an even more strict form of gun control than we have here.

Actually, reading on the Norwegian system... I like it.

But don't worry, I'll still close loopholes on paramilitaries.

[New Freedomstan]

As a gun owner in Norway, I see a problem with an even more strict form of gun control than we have here.

Actually, reading on the Norwegian system... I like it.

But don't worry, I'll still close loopholes on paramilitaries.

Any system that prevents me from owning an AK is a horrible system for horrible people. Banning paramilitiaries is fine, but disarming the people? That is just the first step to tyranny, and we should know! It's the first thing we plan to do if we take power.

[Wolfmanne]

Ah. My bad. Shall we co-operate on this?

Yeah, why not? A couple of things. Firstly, I don't think this is an Anglophone nation and therefore I don't believe that a St Johns is really required. And I would also be very happy to create a livery for the ambulance and gendarmes based on whatever colours one wishes.

Actually, St Johns is a charity and they can be very useful. Firstly, in the event of an Emergency Medical Services strike, they can step in and ensure that medical services are fine. They wouldn't strike because it goes against their constitution or something. Also, English is our first language and we are Anglophone (I'd go more into it but then I'd spoil Glasgia's awesome history). Also, sure, go ahead, create a livery.

[Wolfmanne]

Actually, reading on the Norwegian system... I like it.

But don't worry, I'll still close loopholes on paramilitaries.

Any system that prevents me from owning an AK is a horrible system for horrible people. Banning paramilitiaries is fine, but disarming the people? That is just the first step to tyranny, and we should know! It's the first thing we plan to do if we take power.

Why would you need an automatic rifle to hunt deer?

[New Freedomstan]

Any system that prevents me from owning an AK is a horrible system for horrible people. Banning paramilitiaries is fine, but disarming the people? That is just the first step to tyranny, and we should know! It's the first thing we plan to do if we take power.

Why would you need an automatic rifle to hunt deer?

In case a bear shows up. Nasty things.

[Wolfmanne]

Why would you need an automatic rifle to hunt deer?

In case a bear shows up. Nasty things.

Don't agitate it. Bears are relatively harmless until you agitate them.

Also, Hippostania, please can we have the Aurentinian Brown Bear roaming through the countryside? Please? Imagine the endless possibilities with bears.

[Costa Alegria]

Yeah, why not? A couple of things. Firstly, I don't think this is an Anglophone nation and therefore I don't believe that a St Johns is really required. And I would also be very happy to create a livery for the ambulance and gendarmes based on whatever colours one wishes.

Actually, St Johns is a charity and they can be very useful. Firstly, in the event of an Emergency Medical Services strike, they can step in and ensure that medical services are fine. They wouldn't strike because it goes against their constitution or something. Also, English is our first language and we are Anglophone (I'd go more into it but then I'd spoil Glasgia's awesome history). Also, sure, go ahead, create a livery.

Hippo's map suggests that we aren't. No Anglophone country has "foort" as the word for for (well, maybe the Scottish do), nor have I seen anything that even suggests any form of anglophone history. As for St Johns, they function differently according to where they are. In NZ for example, they're pretty much the sole ambulance service aside from small obscure firms or the Wellington Free Ambulance/other ambulance services run by regional DHB's. They basically are contracted to perform the roles that would otherwise be fulfilled with a state service. In the UK, this is different and it's the same with Australia (where state governments provide EMS services).

[Wolfmanne]

Actually, St Johns is a charity and they can be very useful. Firstly, in the event of an Emergency Medical Services strike, they can step in and ensure that medical services are fine. They wouldn't strike because it goes against their constitution or something. Also, English is our first language and we are Anglophone (I'd go more into it but then I'd spoil Glasgia's awesome history). Also, sure, go ahead, create a livery.

Hippo's map suggests that we aren't. No Anglophone country has "foort" as the word for for (well, maybe the Scottish do), nor have I seen anything that even suggests any form of anglophone history. As for St Johns, they function differently according to where they are. In NZ for example, they're pretty much the sole ambulance service aside from small obscure firms or the Wellington Free Ambulance/other ambulance services run by regional DHB's. They basically are contracted to perform the roles that would otherwise be fulfilled with a state service. In the UK, this is different and it's the same with Australia (where state governments provide EMS services).

Glasgia is yet to write the part that makes English the first language of our nation. Place names are all in Old Aurentinian for some reason. In regards to St Johns, they would operate under the British/Australian system, where they are considered a private medical provider. However, their special status means that they can provide extra staffing and vehicles to an Ambulance Service Trust and act as a reserve force in the event of a generals strike, as they have traditionally done in the UK.

[Divair]

And so it begins, a new era for the Senate.

[Costa Alegria]

Glasgia is yet to write the part that makes English the first language of our nation. Place names are all in Old Aurentinian for some reason. In regards to St Johns, they would operate under the British/Australian system, where they are considered a private medical provider. However, their special status means that they can provide extra staffing and vehicles to an Ambulance Service Trust and act as a reserve force in the event of a generals strike, as they have traditionally done in the UK.

Place names and Old Aurentinian should be kept like with South Africa where they are both official languages and words from both languages are brought into common parlance. I'm also assuming that if people are going to be armed, that the gendarmerie is going to have some pretty nice armoured vehicles? And be under the control of the Minister of the Interior.

[The Realm of God]

Wrong thread.

[Wolfmanne]

Glasgia is yet to write the part that makes English the first language of our nation. Place names are all in Old Aurentinian for some reason. In regards to St Johns, they would operate under the British/Australian system, where they are considered a private medical provider. However, their special status means that they can provide extra staffing and vehicles to an Ambulance Service Trust and act as a reserve force in the event of a generals strike, as they have traditionally done in the UK.

Place names and Old Aurentinian should be kept like with South Africa where they are both official languages and words from both languages are brought into common parlance. I'm also assuming that if people are going to be armed, that the gendarmerie is going to have some pretty nice armoured vehicles? And be under the control of the Minister of the Interior.

Having them under control of the Ministry of the Interior is a bit confusing. See, the police are under the control of Justice, although personally I think they should be under the Interior. We should include a clause that transfers the function over.