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Postby DuThaal Craftworld » Tue May 07, 2013 7:35 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
DuThaal Craftworld wrote:Why, if I may, is such a talk necessary? Are citizens not entitled the right of self defense? And, if they choose to group together and 'represent' a political party, is this evil? Is the right to self defense and organization not a personal, inalienable truth?


The two are not mutual. And I doubt that your "self defence" is just that.

Which two, and my I ask as to what makes this senator believe that self defense is not self defense?
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 07, 2013 7:37 pm

DuThaal Craftworld wrote:Which two, and my I ask as to what makes this senator believe that self defense is not self defense?


Organisation and self defence. And "self defence" is your party's justification for maintaining a paramilitary force for political gains.
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Postby DuThaal Craftworld » Tue May 07, 2013 7:38 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
DuThaal Craftworld wrote:Which two, and my I ask as to what makes this senator believe that self defense is not self defense?


Organisation and self defence. And "self defence" is your party's justification for maintaining a paramilitary force for political gains.

It's not a paramilitary force.
It is a militia, and we have not used it for 'political gains'. Please source this allegation.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 07, 2013 7:42 pm

DuThaal Craftworld wrote:It's not a paramilitary force.


It's a paramilitary.

It is a militia, and we have not used it for 'political gains'. Please source this allegation.


You haven't. My apologies. It, however, seems that members of your coalition have threatened the state with said forces.
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Postby DuThaal Craftworld » Tue May 07, 2013 7:44 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
DuThaal Craftworld wrote:It's not a paramilitary force.


1) It's a paramilitary.

It is a militia, and we have not used it for 'political gains'. Please source this allegation.


2) You haven't. My apologies. It, however, seems that members of your coalition have threatened the state with said forces.

1) Upon reflection, I suppose two men with one calling himself 'squad leader' and the other 'grunt' that work in tandem with sharp sticks are a paramilitary. I concede.
paramilitary |ˌparəˈmiliˌterē|
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(of an unofficial force) organized similarly to a military force: soldiers and police have been killed in conflicts with the drug cartels and their paramilitary allies.

2) Thank you.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 07, 2013 7:46 pm

DuThaal Craftworld wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
1) It's a paramilitary.



2) You haven't. My apologies. It, however, seems that members of your coalition have threatened the state with said forces.

1) Upon reflection, I suppose two men with one calling himself 'squad leader' and the other 'grunt' that work in tandem with sharp sticks are a paramilitary. I concede.
paramilitary |ˌparəˈmiliˌterē|
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(of an unofficial force) organized similarly to a military force: soldiers and police have been killed in conflicts with the drug cartels and their paramilitary allies.

2) Thank you.


Not to mention the military grade weaponry. Militias don't have that kind of weapons and vehicles.
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Postby DuThaal Craftworld » Tue May 07, 2013 7:49 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
DuThaal Craftworld wrote:1) Upon reflection, I suppose two men with one calling himself 'squad leader' and the other 'grunt' that work in tandem with sharp sticks are a paramilitary. I concede.
paramilitary |ˌparəˈmiliˌterē|
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(of an unofficial force) organized similarly to a military force: soldiers and police have been killed in conflicts with the drug cartels and their paramilitary allies.

2) Thank you.


Not to mention the military grade weaponry. Militias don't have that kind of weapons and vehicles.

Military grade weaponry? Please, do source this. It seems to be mighty interesting.
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Urgency: Very High

Drafted by: DuThaal Craftworld

Co-Sponsored by: Hathradic States

Recognizing the right of the people to bear weaponry,

Noting that this has become a center of controversy within the senate as of late,

Recommending the Senate to adopt this bill in order to ensure the integrity of the Nation,

Hereby puts the following into effect;
1.0:Statement; The right of the people to possess, use and carry firearms shall not be infringed by any state, federal or other governmental authority. And while the right of the people to bear low-power explosives/artillery may be infringed, it shall not be prohibited in most circumstances*. Also not infringed is the right of the people to affix these weapons upon any frame that they wish, so long as they have the consent of the object’s owner.
2.0:Definitions;
2.1:Firearms; Any weapon with a projectile diameter of less than twelve point 7 (12.7) millimeters, a projectile length of less than four (4) centimeters, and utilizes a short combustion cycle to propel said projectile out of the weapon and towards a target. The exception to this is shotgun shells/rounds/calibres, which may be of any size applicable for their purpose. These defined firearms may take the form of pistols, rifles, shotguns and large ‘sniper’ rifles. If the ammunition carries over 1/4 ounce of explosive or 4 ounces of propellant then it is governed as artillery/low power explosives. No harmful (read; toxic/otherwise dangerous) biological or chemical elements are banned, as seen later within this bill.
2.2:Low-power explosives; are any explosive material with an explosive force of less than ten kilograms (22 pounds) when shaped into a regular cube measuring 1cm3 before detonation. Upon and after detonation it may not leave behind any harmful chemical, biological or radiological residue/effects upon the environment.
2.3:Artillery;, for the purpose of this bill, to be any weapon with a projectile diameter above 6.35 centimeters.
2.4:Circumstances under which a member of the populace’s right to bear low power exposives and artillery; as legal charges. Unless otherwise stated, instant confiscation, a ban from owning such weapons again and selling the confiscated materials back onto the free market is the penalty. The legal charges applicable are as such; conspiracy to commit murder (with the weapon(s)), manslaughter (four month suspension, official training upon proper use), murder (with the weapon(s)), armed robbery (with the weapon(s)), rape (wherein the weapon(s) were used to coerce the raped party) or property destruction (with the weapon(s)).
3.0:Furthermore; it shall take no less than a vote of 40% confidence within the senate at the minimum in order to repeal this bill once passed.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 07, 2013 7:54 pm

I can agree to every provision except the last. There should not be an 80% threshold for repeal.
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Tue May 07, 2013 7:56 pm

Shrillland wrote:I can agree to every provision except the last. There should not be an 80% threshold for repeal.


Agreed. I shall not support a repeal threshold higher than the approval threshold.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue May 07, 2013 7:56 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:
Shrillland wrote:I can agree to every provision except the last. There should not be an 80% threshold for repeal.


Agreed. I shall not support a repeal threshold higher than the approval threshold.

Further agreed.

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Postby Yanalia » Tue May 07, 2013 7:59 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Greater Pokarnia wrote:
Agreed. I shall not support a repeal threshold higher than the approval threshold.

Further agreed.


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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 07, 2013 8:23 pm

DuThaal Craftworld wrote:Military grade weaponry? Please, do source this. It seems to be mighty interesting.


Your paramilitary uses assault rifles, armoured vehicles such as APC's and even has helicopters. That is considered military grade weaponry.
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Postby DuThaal Craftworld » Tue May 07, 2013 8:29 pm

Editing to 40% agreement.
Urgency: Very High

Drafted by: DuThaal Craftworld

Co-Sponsored by: Hathradic States & the party he is Chairman of.

Recognizing the right of the people to bear weaponry,

Noting that this has become a center of controversy within the senate as of late,

Recommending the Senate to adopt this bill in order to ensure the integrity of the Nation,

Hereby puts the following into effect;
1.0:Statement; The right of the people to possess, use and carry firearms shall not be infringed by any state, federal or other governmental authority. And while the right of the people to bear low-power explosives/artillery may be infringed, it shall not be prohibited in most circumstances*. Also not infringed is the right of the people to affix these weapons upon any frame that they wish, so long as they have the consent of the object’s owner.
2.0:Definitions;
2.1:Firearms; Any weapon with a projectile diameter of less than twelve point 7 (12.7) millimeters, a projectile length of less than four (4) centimeters, and utilizes a short combustion cycle to propel said projectile out of the weapon and towards a target. The exception to this is shotgun shells/rounds/calibres, which may be of any size applicable for their purpose. These defined firearms may take the form of pistols, rifles, shotguns and large ‘sniper’ rifles. If the ammunition carries over 1/4 ounce of explosive or 4 ounces of propellant then it is governed as artillery/low power explosives. No harmful (read; toxic/otherwise dangerous) biological or chemical elements are banned, as seen later within this bill.
2.2:Low-power explosives; are any explosive material with an explosive force of less than ten kilograms (22 pounds) when shaped into a regular cube measuring 1cm3 before detonation. Upon and after detonation it may not leave behind any harmful chemical, biological or radiological residue/effects upon the environment.
2.3:Artillery;, for the purpose of this bill, to be any weapon with a projectile diameter above 6.35 centimeters.
2.4:Circumstances under which a member of the populace’s right to bear low power exposives and artillery; as legal charges. Unless otherwise stated, instant confiscation, a ban from owning such weapons again and selling the confiscated materials back onto the free market is the penalty. The legal charges applicable are as such; conspiracy to commit murder (with the weapon(s)), manslaughter (four month suspension, official training upon proper use), murder (with the weapon(s)), armed robbery (with the weapon(s)), rape (wherein the weapon(s) were used to coerce the raped party) or property destruction (with the weapon(s)).
3.0:Furthermore; it shall take no less than a vote of 40% confidence within the senate at the minimum in order to repeal this bill once passed.

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Postby Othelos » Tue May 07, 2013 8:39 pm

Here is Lanos' and my completed compromise bill on weapons/firearms and paramilitaries.

Weapon and Paramilitary Regulation Act


Urgency: Very High

Drafted by:
Othelos (PC) and Lanos (PC)

Co-Sponsored by:

Recognizing the need to regulate paramailitaries and weapons,

Noting that the Senate is very divided on whether and/or how to perform regulation,

Recommending the Senate to adopt this bill in order to ensure the integrity of the Senate,

Hereby adopts this bill as a compromise.


Section A: General Weapons Restrictions

1a. No person, business, or any other organization, excluding the military and agencies that require destructive devices, may purchase or sell weapons that are not firearms (this excludes weapons in the exclusion section of section D1). Consequences for violating this section can be a fine of 10,000 NSC to 30,000 NSC and/or 10 years and six months and 5,000 NSC for each weapon illegally sold, depending on the severity and frequency of offense.

1b. Weapons excluded from section 1a and may be legally purchased or sold include manual-action guns, pistols, semi-automatic, and automatic weapons. Purchasers or sellers must be at least 18 years of age. Sellers under age 18 will have to pay a fine of 2,500 NSC for each weapon sold.

1bi. Body armor may be legally sold or purchased by individuals that are at least 18 years of age and must not have committed a serious criminal offense. Using body armor for defense during violent crime shall be illegal, and will warrant anything from a fine of 30,000 NSC to lifetime imprisonment, depending on the degree and frequency of use.

1bii. Weapons purchased before the existence of the Senate shall be excluded from section 1a, but only if the weapon(s) identification code and owners' name and address(es) are registered in the national database. The penalty for failing to do so can be anywhere from 2,500 NSC to 15,000 NSC, depending on the severity of the infraction of the number of weapons per owner.

2a. Businesses, organizations, or persons that sell any weapons that comply with section 1b must perform stringent background check on all persons purchasing weapons, and then add the purchaser's name, address(es), and purchased weapon(s) identification code to a national database, in order to ensure better security for the nation. Failure to comply with this section will result in a fine of anywhere from 5,000 to 15,000 NSC, with 5,000 NSC added for each weapon improperly sold.

2b. Any prospective purchaser of automatic weapons must also obtain a permit from the government before purchasing one of these weapons. In order to obtain a licence, the prospective purchaser may not have a) committed a serious criminal offense or b) have a mental illness or a psychological disorder. Prospective purchasers of manual-action guns, pistols, or semi-automatic weapons may obtain a permit if they wish, but are not obligated to.

3. Each citizen shall have the right to bear arms, as long as he or she complies with section 1bii, 2a, and 2b of this act. However, a citizen may not carry any arms in public areas (excluding gun ranges and specially designated hunting areas). If a citizen violates this section, he or she can face anything from a 5,000 to 50,000 NSC fine, depending on the type and number of weapons. If a weapon is discharged or used in a public area other than gun ranges and specially designated hunting areas, a fine of the same range on top of 10 years imprisonment may be sentenced.

Section B: Body Armor and Other Personal Protective Equipment

1a. The purchase, possession, and sale of body armor in the country shall be legal with the same general restrictions as regulating the purchase, possession, and sale of weapons that do not require a government permit. Body armor may be legally sold or purchased by individuals that are at least 18 years of age and must not have committed a serious criminal offense. Persons that have been convicted of a serious criminal offense are forbidden to purchase such armor.

1b. Using body armor for defense during violent crime shall be illegal, and will warrant anything from a fine of 30,000 NSC to lifetime imprisonment, depending on the degree and frequency of use.

1c. Certain types of body armor that are to be restricted to civilians are types that feature a special feature that enables protection from rifle rounds in contrast to normal body armor that protects against pistol rounds. Such a purchase must require a government permit before its purchase. It is an offense to possess such body armor without a permit and punishable by a 10,000 NSC fine.

2. The possession of other types of protective equipment, such as gas masks, shall be legal for possession regardless of criminal history or mental history.

Section C: Restrictions on Paramilitaries

1. Paramilitaries are permitted to contain up to 1500 people and possess weapons that comply with sections A1 and D1.

2a. Paramilitaries that contain over 1500 people, after the passage of this act, have a ten day grace period before they must give their weapons up to the government. They may voluntarily give up weapons before the grace period ends. The government must store these firearms in a secure, secret location, if they comply with section A1 and D1. Weapons that do not comply with section A1 and D1 will be destroyed.

2b. If a weapon that has been confiscated and complies with sections A1 and D1 is damaged or destroyed, the government must fully compensate the value of the damages, according to the degree of damage or destruction.

2c. Members of paramilitary organizations that are or were in a state of belligerence against the government and were captured by government forces may not retain their privately-owned weapons and must give their weapons up for secret and secure storage to the government. They shall retain the right to bear arms again unless proven guilty of a crime in a court of law for a) a serious criminal offense or b) crimes related to to paramilitary organization, and the government must destroy all weapons of owners found guilty.

3. Once a paramilitary containing over 1500 people has been reduced to 1500 people, the government must return confiscated weapons to members and ex-members.

Section D: Definitions

1. Destructive devices are defined as weapons including, but not limited to, chemical/biological/incindiary/magnetic/energy/explosive weapons, rockets, bombs, tanks, experimental weapons, and weapons in development. Weapons excluded, and that are legal to purchase, are swords (or similar), knives, and bow and arrows.

2. A mental illness is defined as a psychological pattern or anomaly that is generally associated with distress or disability, and which is not considered part of normal development in our culture. For the purposes of this bill, this only includes mental disorders that do not cause the person to become violent or lose touch with reality.

3. A background check is defined as a comprehensive investigation in the history of a person for serious criminal offenses or mental illness. Any persons found to have one or both is not permitted to purchase any weapons.

4. A national database is defined as a secure storage site for data. For the purposes of this bill, the database will only hold the name, weapon(s) identification code, and address(es) of a weapon owner.

5. A serious criminal offense is defined as violent crime, such as sexual offenses, murder, manslaughter, abduction, robbery, extortion, and assault.

6. A paramilitary is defined as an organization of people that functions as a military, but is not part of the state.

7. A weapon identification code is defined as a unique code between six and ten digits, which all weapons are required to possess. This, however, excludes antique weapons which are only for the purpose of collection or display. Failure to comply with this section will warrant a fine of between 5000 NSC and 25000 NSC, depending on whether the weapon whether the weapon was used in a crime.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Tue May 07, 2013 8:45 pm

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The Nationality Act
Drafted by: Nationalist Eminral Republic
Co-drafted by: Quirina
Sponsored by: Diopolis [CMP]
The Senate of the nation that has yet to be named

Recognizing the need in establishing uniform and solid nationality law in building a solid country and building the framework for future immigration laws.

Realizing that the nation have no uniform federal laws regarding nationality

Hereby mandates that anyone that falls under the category is a national of the nation:
  • Anyone born after the law have been passed is a national
  • A registered and recognized person at the time the law is passed is a national

Hereby mandates that a child is a national if:
  • The child is born within the territory of the country by the time the law is passed
  • If either the parent of the child is a national on the time the child is born
  • When the father, prior to the time of the birth, is a national
  • The child whose father or mother is a member of the military shall be consider a national

Whereas the child (excluding the child who have once been a national) under or at the twenty-one years of age have his/her father or mother acknowledged paternity or maternity respectively may apply for a nationality, if the father or mother who have made the acknowledgement is a national and if the father or mother is a national at the time of his/her death

Whereas, anyone who have reached the following requirement is eligible for a nationality by applying to the Ministry of Justice
  • Have domiciled within the country for 3 years
  • At least 18 years of age and/or have full legal capacity to consent according to the laws of his/her home country
  • Have upright conduct and have not been convicted of felony or any other serious crimes. The applicant must have no standing charges of felony or any other crimes against them at the time of the application of nationality or it might result to cancellation of the application process.
  • Able to secure his/her livelihood, his/her spouse and/or other relatives of whom the applicant is sharing common expenses
  • Have not formed a group advocating the overthrow of the legitimate government, threaten to endanger the safety and security of the public and threaten the national security of the country
  • Must be literate of the official language. The applicant must undergo a proficiency test that is approved by the government in order to determine that applicant's literacy to the language.

Hereby mandates that anyone who have done the following shall have their nationality revoked
  • anyone who have voluntarily pledged loyalty to other nation by serving in the foreign armed forces
  • anyone who have resided in a foreign country for 7 consecutive years without informing the government through its embassies shall have their nationality revoked. Exceptions shall be made if the government have summoned them for a certain cause.
  • anyone who have made a notification to the Ministry of Justice renouncing their nationality. The person who have made the notification shall have their nationality revoked at the time the notification have been received.
  • a national who have been born to a foreign country shall have their nationality revoked unless the person have declared his/her intention to retain nationality.

Whereas, the following can be done to retain their nationality
  • In order to retain lost nationality, a notification shall be made by the person to the Ministry of Justice declaring their intent to retain their nationality

Whereas, the government is required to send a written order if the nationality is being taken away from an individual with explanations regarding the decision.

Whereas, anyone applying or reapplying for nationality must take an exam, containing 60 questions about the history, culture and the system of the government of the country. The applicant must answer minimum of 40 questions in order for the applicant to pass the exam.

Whereas, the applicant's children under the age of 18 shall be carried by the applicant should they pass the exam.

Whereas, any individual who have other nationality shall be considered dual-citizens and shall still enjoy the full protection and services of the state like any other nationals.


No one responded to my earlier post so I'm posting it again. If you have any better wordings just say it to me.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue May 07, 2013 9:07 pm

Internal Security Force Bill (2013)
Co-drafted by: Costa Alegria and Wolfmanne || Urgency: High
Co-sponsors: Progressive-Conservative Party(?), Britcan (TR, possible)


Preamble
The security of our nation is a top priority for the government and the Senate. Election to the Senate gives you the responsibility to ensure that you can hold the government to account in ensuring the safety and security of our people. However, it is not the responsibility of individual political parties to act as the judge, jury and executioner, for only multiple political parties and not just one can hold the government to account. Furthermore, we recognise that whether you support or oppose the Right to Bear Arms, in a time such as this, we need to reach a compromise until specific firearms legislation promoting or restricting the ownership of guns. In order to further the government's ability to ensure the security of this nation, we see the need for the creation of a government organisation to do just that, as evidenced by the 1st Festival of Republic, where armed right-wing paramilitaries are attempting to agitate left-wing paramilitaries into destabilising the nation.

Article 1: Formation
1a: In light of potential civil war and for use in a time of a national or regional emergency the Aurentinian National Guard is to be established under the auspices of the Ministry of the Interior.
1b: A National Guard Training Academy shall also be established with the function of training officers.
1c: Also establishes specially trained sub-forces for special operations and riot control.
1d: The National Guard shall be organised into a series of Brigades consisting of a number of Regiments from different regions.
1e: In times of war, the Nationla Guard or individual Brigades and Regiments may be drafted by the National Defense Force to provide rear security, police the military and for national defense against external threats, based upon the threat to national security this war may have. Gendarmes are to be considered a part of the military and not civilians, however whilst the Aurentinian National Guard is considered to be a military organisation, it does not come under the National Defense Force but the Ministry of the Interior, unless they have been drafted.
1d: All National Guard officers shall be accountable for their actions and subject to review by both the Ministry of the Interior and the Ministry of Justice.
1f: Gendarmes shall have policing powers as established by the Policing and Law Enforcement Act in situations where which require the tempoary deployment of National Guard personnel or within jurisidictions that apply to the National Guard.

Article 2: Jurisdiction and Deployment
2a: The Aurentinian National Guard shall provide security of public institutions, ministries and courts, embassies and consulates international airports, national museums, nuclear power plants, riots & crowds control, publicly crowded events and our national borders.
2b: The Aurentinian National Guard shall conduct high risk arrests, disaster response, SWAT operations, the suppression of internal armed conflicts and riots, the policing of areas without a sufficient amount of civilian police, to support local constabularies and counter-terrorism operations.
2c: Herein also decrees that the National Guard shall assist the Police, Emergency Medical Services and the Fire Service in times of natural or man-made disaster.

Article 3: Uniforms and Equipment
3a: All members of the National Guard shall have three primary uniforms: Dress, Operational and Ceremonial.
3b: Operational uniforms shall consist of a standard red beret, black bulletproof vest and belt kit (both of which should not intrude into how the officer moves), a khaki green polo shirt and light khaki button shirt along with accompanying jersey and cargo pants as well as black combat boots.
3c: Mandating that all National Guard officers on duty may carry the following equipment:
[*]One pair of handcuffs.
[*]One telescopic baton.
[*]One can of CS spray.
[*]One personal radio set.
[*]The badge of the National Guard.
Additionally, it shall be mandated that all National Guard officers shall have the minimum of one firearm per officer with spare ammunition as the officer sees fit.
3d: Mandating that all National Guard officers use firearms that use the same calibre of ammunition as both the National Defense Force and the National Police Force. Officers may also use firearms seized from criminals and paramilitaries as long as they comply with safety regulations and are military grade or the equivalent.
3e: Herein forbids officers to use firearms which are temporarily seized from their owners or garishly decorated.
3f: Recommending that the National Guard adopt a standardised vehicle for their respective tasks.
3g: Mandating that all non-combat vehicles carry a green and white livery with blue lights. Mandating that all combat vehicles carry a dark green livery with white letters and orange hazard lights.
3h: Allowing National Guard officers to use non-combat and combat ground vehicles in operations.
3i: Allowing National Guard officers the use of seized or captured non-combat and combat vehicles.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue May 07, 2013 9:08 pm

Costa Alegria wrote:
Internal Security Force Bill (2013)
Co-drafted by: Costa Alegria and Wolfmanne || Urgency: High
Co-sponsors: Progressive-Conservative Party(?), Britcan (TR, possible)


Preamble
The security of our nation is a top priority for the government and the Senate. Election to the Senate gives you the responsibility to ensure that you can hold the government to account in ensuring the safety and security of our people. However, it is not the responsibility of individual political parties to act as the judge, jury and executioner, for only multiple political parties and not just one can hold the government to account. Furthermore, we recognise that whether you support or oppose the Right to Bear Arms, in a time such as this, we need to reach a compromise until specific firearms legislation promoting or restricting the ownership of guns. In order to further the government's ability to ensure the security of this nation, we see the need for the creation of a government organisation to do just that, as evidenced by the 1st Festival of Republic, where armed right-wing paramilitaries are attempting to agitate left-wing paramilitaries into destabilising the nation.

Article 1: Formation
1a: In light of potential civil war and for use in a time of a national or regional emergency the Aurentinian National Guard is to be established under the auspices of the Ministry of the Interior.
1b: A National Guard Training Academy shall also be established with the function of training officers.
1c: Also establishes specially trained sub-forces for special operations and riot control.
1d: The National Guard shall be organised into a series of Brigades consisting of a number of Regiments from different regions.
1e: In times of war, the Nationla Guard or individual Brigades and Regiments may be drafted by the National Defense Force to provide rear security, police the military and for national defense against external threats, based upon the threat to national security this war may have. Gendarmes are to be considered a part of the military and not civilians, however whilst the Aurentinian National Guard is considered to be a military organisation, it does not come under the National Defense Force but the Ministry of the Interior, unless they have been drafted.
1d: All National Guard officers shall be accountable for their actions and subject to review by both the Ministry of the Interior and the Ministry of Justice.
1f: Gendarmes shall have policing powers as established by the Policing and Law Enforcement Act in situations where which require the tempoary deployment of National Guard personnel or within jurisidictions that apply to the National Guard.

Article 2: Jurisdiction and Deployment
2a: The Aurentinian National Guard shall provide security of public institutions, ministries and courts, embassies and consulates international airports, national museums, nuclear power plants, riots & crowds control, publicly crowded events and our national borders.
2b: The Aurentinian National Guard shall conduct high risk arrests, disaster response, SWAT operations, the suppression of internal armed conflicts and riots, the policing of areas without a sufficient amount of civilian police, to support local constabularies and counter-terrorism operations.
2c: Herein also decrees that the National Guard shall assist the Police, Emergency Medical Services and the Fire Service in times of natural or man-made disaster.

Article 3: Uniforms and Equipment
3a: All members of the National Guard shall have three primary uniforms: Dress, Operational and Ceremonial.
3b: Operational uniforms shall consist of a standard red beret, black bulletproof vest and belt kit (both of which should not intrude into how the officer moves), a khaki green polo shirt and light khaki button shirt along with accompanying jersey and cargo pants as well as black combat boots.
3c: Mandating that all National Guard officers on duty may carry the following equipment:
[*]One pair of handcuffs.
[*]One telescopic baton.
[*]One can of CS spray.
[*]One personal radio set.
[*]The badge of the National Guard.
Additionally, it shall be mandated that all National Guard officers shall have the minimum of one firearm per officer with spare ammunition as the officer sees fit.
3d: Mandating that all National Guard officers use firearms that use the same calibre of ammunition as both the National Defense Force and the National Police Force. Officers may also use firearms seized from criminals and paramilitaries as long as they comply with safety regulations and are military grade or the equivalent.
3e: Herein forbids officers to use firearms which are temporarily seized from their owners or garishly decorated.
3f: Recommending that the National Guard adopt a standardised vehicle for their respective tasks.
3g: Mandating that all non-combat vehicles carry a green and white livery with blue lights. Mandating that all combat vehicles carry a dark green livery with white letters and orange hazard lights.
3h: Allowing National Guard officers to use non-combat and combat ground vehicles in operations.
3i: Allowing National Guard officers the use of seized or captured non-combat and combat vehicles.



I second this bill.
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Postby Agritum » Tue May 07, 2013 10:10 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Costa Alegria wrote:
Internal Security Force Bill (2013)
Co-drafted by: Costa Alegria and Wolfmanne || Urgency: High
Co-sponsors: Progressive-Conservative Party(?), Britcan (TR, possible)


Preamble
The security of our nation is a top priority for the government and the Senate. Election to the Senate gives you the responsibility to ensure that you can hold the government to account in ensuring the safety and security of our people. However, it is not the responsibility of individual political parties to act as the judge, jury and executioner, for only multiple political parties and not just one can hold the government to account. Furthermore, we recognise that whether you support or oppose the Right to Bear Arms, in a time such as this, we need to reach a compromise until specific firearms legislation promoting or restricting the ownership of guns. In order to further the government's ability to ensure the security of this nation, we see the need for the creation of a government organisation to do just that, as evidenced by the 1st Festival of Republic, where armed right-wing paramilitaries are attempting to agitate left-wing paramilitaries into destabilising the nation.

Article 1: Formation
1a: In light of potential civil war and for use in a time of a national or regional emergency the Aurentinian National Guard is to be established under the auspices of the Ministry of the Interior.
1b: A National Guard Training Academy shall also be established with the function of training officers.
1c: Also establishes specially trained sub-forces for special operations and riot control.
1d: The National Guard shall be organised into a series of Brigades consisting of a number of Regiments from different regions.
1e: In times of war, the Nationla Guard or individual Brigades and Regiments may be drafted by the National Defense Force to provide rear security, police the military and for national defense against external threats, based upon the threat to national security this war may have. Gendarmes are to be considered a part of the military and not civilians, however whilst the Aurentinian National Guard is considered to be a military organisation, it does not come under the National Defense Force but the Ministry of the Interior, unless they have been drafted.
1d: All National Guard officers shall be accountable for their actions and subject to review by both the Ministry of the Interior and the Ministry of Justice.
1f: Gendarmes shall have policing powers as established by the Policing and Law Enforcement Act in situations where which require the tempoary deployment of National Guard personnel or within jurisidictions that apply to the National Guard.

Article 2: Jurisdiction and Deployment
2a: The Aurentinian National Guard shall provide security of public institutions, ministries and courts, embassies and consulates international airports, national museums, nuclear power plants, riots & crowds control, publicly crowded events and our national borders.
2b: The Aurentinian National Guard shall conduct high risk arrests, disaster response, SWAT operations, the suppression of internal armed conflicts and riots, the policing of areas without a sufficient amount of civilian police, to support local constabularies and counter-terrorism operations.
2c: Herein also decrees that the National Guard shall assist the Police, Emergency Medical Services and the Fire Service in times of natural or man-made disaster.

Article 3: Uniforms and Equipment
3a: All members of the National Guard shall have three primary uniforms: Dress, Operational and Ceremonial.
3b: Operational uniforms shall consist of a standard red beret, black bulletproof vest and belt kit (both of which should not intrude into how the officer moves), a khaki green polo shirt and light khaki button shirt along with accompanying jersey and cargo pants as well as black combat boots.
3c: Mandating that all National Guard officers on duty may carry the following equipment:
[*]One pair of handcuffs.
[*]One telescopic baton.
[*]One can of CS spray.
[*]One personal radio set.
[*]The badge of the National Guard.
Additionally, it shall be mandated that all National Guard officers shall have the minimum of one firearm per officer with spare ammunition as the officer sees fit.
3d: Mandating that all National Guard officers use firearms that use the same calibre of ammunition as both the National Defense Force and the National Police Force. Officers may also use firearms seized from criminals and paramilitaries as long as they comply with safety regulations and are military grade or the equivalent.
3e: Herein forbids officers to use firearms which are temporarily seized from their owners or garishly decorated.
3f: Recommending that the National Guard adopt a standardised vehicle for their respective tasks.
3g: Mandating that all non-combat vehicles carry a green and white livery with blue lights. Mandating that all combat vehicles carry a dark green livery with white letters and orange hazard lights.
3h: Allowing National Guard officers to use non-combat and combat ground vehicles in operations.
3i: Allowing National Guard officers the use of seized or captured non-combat and combat vehicles.



I second this bill.

Thirded.

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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue May 07, 2013 10:31 pm

Agritum wrote:
Shrillland wrote:

I second this bill.

Thirded.

4thed.

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Postby Aeken » Tue May 07, 2013 10:33 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Agritum wrote:Thirded.

4thed.

Fifthed.

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Postby DuThaal Craftworld » Tue May 07, 2013 10:34 pm

Repost.
Urgency: Very High

Drafted by: DuThaal Craftworld

Co-Sponsored by: Hathradic States & the party he is Chairman of.

Recognizing the right of the people to bear weaponry,

Noting that this has become a center of controversy within the senate as of late,

Recommending the Senate to adopt this bill in order to ensure the integrity of the Nation,

Hereby puts the following into effect;
1.0:Statement; The right of the people to possess, use and carry firearms shall not be infringed by any state, federal or other governmental authority. And while the right of the people to bear low-power explosives/artillery may be infringed, it shall not be prohibited in most circumstances*. Also not infringed is the right of the people to affix these weapons upon any frame that they wish, so long as they have the consent of the object’s owner.
2.0:Definitions;
2.1:Firearms; Any weapon with a projectile diameter of less than twelve point 7 (12.7) millimeters, a projectile length of less than four (4) centimeters, and utilizes a short combustion cycle to propel said projectile out of the weapon and towards a target. The exception to this is shotgun shells/rounds/calibres, which may be of any size applicable for their purpose. These defined firearms may take the form of pistols, rifles, shotguns and large ‘sniper’ rifles. If the ammunition carries over 1/4 ounce of explosive or 4 ounces of propellant then it is governed as artillery/low power explosives. No harmful (read; toxic/otherwise dangerous) biological or chemical elements are banned, as seen later within this bill.
2.2:Low-power explosives; are any explosive material with an explosive force of less than ten kilograms (22 pounds) when shaped into a regular cube measuring 1cm3 before detonation. Upon and after detonation it may not leave behind any harmful chemical, biological or radiological residue/effects upon the environment.
2.3:Artillery;, for the purpose of this bill, to be any weapon with a projectile diameter above 6.35 centimeters.
2.4:Circumstances under which a member of the populace’s right to bear low power exposives and artillery; as legal charges. Unless otherwise stated, instant confiscation, a ban from owning such weapons again and selling the confiscated materials back onto the free market is the penalty. The legal charges applicable are as such; conspiracy to commit murder (with the weapon(s)), manslaughter (four month suspension, official training upon proper use), murder (with the weapon(s)), armed robbery (with the weapon(s)), rape (wherein the weapon(s) were used to coerce the raped party) or property destruction (with the weapon(s)).
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Tue May 07, 2013 10:35 pm

Othelos wrote:Here is Lanos' and my completed compromise bill on weapons/firearms and paramilitaries.

Weapon and Paramilitary Regulation Act


Urgency: Very High

Drafted by:
Othelos (PC) and Lanos (PC)

Co-Sponsored by:

Recognizing the need to regulate paramailitaries and weapons,

Noting that the Senate is very divided on whether and/or how to perform regulation,

Recommending the Senate to adopt this bill in order to ensure the integrity of the Senate,

Hereby adopts this bill as a compromise.


Section A: General Weapons Restrictions

1a. No person, business, or any other organization, excluding the military and agencies that require destructive devices, may purchase or sell weapons that are not firearms (this excludes weapons in the exclusion section of section D1). Consequences for violating this section can be a fine of 10,000 NSC to 30,000 NSC and/or 10 years and six months and 5,000 NSC for each weapon illegally sold, depending on the severity and frequency of offense.

1b. Weapons excluded from section 1a and may be legally purchased or sold include manual-action guns, pistols, semi-automatic, and automatic weapons. Purchasers or sellers must be at least 18 years of age. Sellers under age 18 will have to pay a fine of 2,500 NSC for each weapon sold.

1bi. Body armor may be legally sold or purchased by individuals that are at least 18 years of age and must not have committed a serious criminal offense. Using body armor for defense during violent crime shall be illegal, and will warrant anything from a fine of 30,000 NSC to lifetime imprisonment, depending on the degree and frequency of use.

1bii. Weapons purchased before the existence of the Senate shall be excluded from section 1a, but only if the weapon(s) identification code and owners' name and address(es) are registered in the national database. The penalty for failing to do so can be anywhere from 2,500 NSC to 15,000 NSC, depending on the severity of the infraction of the number of weapons per owner.

2a. Businesses, organizations, or persons that sell any weapons that comply with section 1b must perform stringent background check on all persons purchasing weapons, and then add the purchaser's name, address(es), and purchased weapon(s) identification code to a national database, in order to ensure better security for the nation. Failure to comply with this section will result in a fine of anywhere from 5,000 to 15,000 NSC, with 5,000 NSC added for each weapon improperly sold.

2b. Any prospective purchaser of automatic weapons must also obtain a permit from the government before purchasing one of these weapons. In order to obtain a licence, the prospective purchaser may not have a) committed a serious criminal offense or b) have a mental illness or a psychological disorder. Prospective purchasers of manual-action guns, pistols, or semi-automatic weapons may obtain a permit if they wish, but are not obligated to.

3. Each citizen shall have the right to bear arms, as long as he or she complies with section 1bii, 2a, and 2b of this act. However, a citizen may not carry any arms in public areas (excluding gun ranges and specially designated hunting areas). If a citizen violates this section, he or she can face anything from a 5,000 to 50,000 NSC fine, depending on the type and number of weapons. If a weapon is discharged or used in a public area other than gun ranges and specially designated hunting areas, a fine of the same range on top of 10 years imprisonment may be sentenced.

Section B: Body Armor and Other Personal Protective Equipment

1a. The purchase, possession, and sale of body armor in the country shall be legal with the same general restrictions as regulating the purchase, possession, and sale of weapons that do not require a government permit. Body armor may be legally sold or purchased by individuals that are at least 18 years of age and must not have committed a serious criminal offense. Persons that have been convicted of a serious criminal offense are forbidden to purchase such armor.

1b. Using body armor for defense during violent crime shall be illegal, and will warrant anything from a fine of 30,000 NSC to lifetime imprisonment, depending on the degree and frequency of use.

1c. Certain types of body armor that are to be restricted to civilians are types that feature a special feature that enables protection from rifle rounds in contrast to normal body armor that protects against pistol rounds. Such a purchase must require a government permit before its purchase. It is an offense to possess such body armor without a permit and punishable by a 10,000 NSC fine.

2. The possession of other types of protective equipment, such as gas masks, shall be legal for possession regardless of criminal history or mental history.

Section C: Restrictions on Paramilitaries

1. Paramilitaries are permitted to contain up to 1500 people and possess weapons that comply with sections A1 and D1.

2a. Paramilitaries that contain over 1500 people, after the passage of this act, have a ten day grace period before they must give their weapons up to the government. They may voluntarily give up weapons before the grace period ends. The government must store these firearms in a secure, secret location, if they comply with section A1 and D1. Weapons that do not comply with section A1 and D1 will be destroyed.

2b. If a weapon that has been confiscated and complies with sections A1 and D1 is damaged or destroyed, the government must fully compensate the value of the damages, according to the degree of damage or destruction.

2c. Members of paramilitary organizations that are or were in a state of belligerence against the government and were captured by government forces may not retain their privately-owned weapons and must give their weapons up for secret and secure storage to the government. They shall retain the right to bear arms again unless proven guilty of a crime in a court of law for a) a serious criminal offense or b) crimes related to to paramilitary organization, and the government must destroy all weapons of owners found guilty.

3. Once a paramilitary containing over 1500 people has been reduced to 1500 people, the government must return confiscated weapons to members and ex-members.

Section D: Definitions

1. Destructive devices are defined as weapons including, but not limited to, chemical/biological/incindiary/magnetic/energy/explosive weapons, rockets, bombs, tanks, experimental weapons, and weapons in development. Weapons excluded, and that are legal to purchase, are swords (or similar), knives, and bow and arrows.

2. A mental illness is defined as a psychological pattern or anomaly that is generally associated with distress or disability, and which is not considered part of normal development in our culture. For the purposes of this bill, this only includes mental disorders that do not cause the person to become violent or lose touch with reality.

3. A background check is defined as a comprehensive investigation in the history of a person for serious criminal offenses or mental illness. Any persons found to have one or both is not permitted to purchase any weapons.

4. A national database is defined as a secure storage site for data. For the purposes of this bill, the database will only hold the name, weapon(s) identification code, and address(es) of a weapon owner.

5. A serious criminal offense is defined as violent crime, such as sexual offenses, murder, manslaughter, abduction, robbery, extortion, and assault.

6. A paramilitary is defined as an organization of people that functions as a military, but is not part of the state.

7. A weapon identification code is defined as a unique code between six and ten digits, which all weapons are required to possess. This, however, excludes antique weapons which are only for the purpose of collection or display. Failure to comply with this section will warrant a fine of between 5000 NSC and 25000 NSC, depending on whether the weapon whether the weapon was used in a crime.

Can I second my own bill? Then seconded. :P

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Postby Yanalia » Tue May 07, 2013 10:36 pm

DuThaal Craftworld wrote:Repost.
Urgency: Very High

Drafted by: DuThaal Craftworld

Co-Sponsored by: Hathradic States & the party he is Chairman of.

Recognizing the right of the people to bear weaponry,

Noting that this has become a center of controversy within the senate as of late,

Recommending the Senate to adopt this bill in order to ensure the integrity of the Nation,

Hereby puts the following into effect;
1.0:Statement; The right of the people to possess, use and carry firearms shall not be infringed by any state, federal or other governmental authority. And while the right of the people to bear low-power explosives/artillery may be infringed, it shall not be prohibited in most circumstances*. Also not infringed is the right of the people to affix these weapons upon any frame that they wish, so long as they have the consent of the object’s owner.
2.0:Definitions;
2.1:Firearms; Any weapon with a projectile diameter of less than twelve point 7 (12.7) millimeters, a projectile length of less than four (4) centimeters, and utilizes a short combustion cycle to propel said projectile out of the weapon and towards a target. The exception to this is shotgun shells/rounds/calibres, which may be of any size applicable for their purpose. These defined firearms may take the form of pistols, rifles, shotguns and large ‘sniper’ rifles. If the ammunition carries over 1/4 ounce of explosive or 4 ounces of propellant then it is governed as artillery/low power explosives. No harmful (read; toxic/otherwise dangerous) biological or chemical elements are banned, as seen later within this bill.
2.2:Low-power explosives; are any explosive material with an explosive force of less than ten kilograms (22 pounds) when shaped into a regular cube measuring 1cm3 before detonation. Upon and after detonation it may not leave behind any harmful chemical, biological or radiological residue/effects upon the environment.
2.3:Artillery;, for the purpose of this bill, to be any weapon with a projectile diameter above 6.35 centimeters.
2.4:Circumstances under which a member of the populace’s right to bear low power exposives and artillery; as legal charges. Unless otherwise stated, instant confiscation, a ban from owning such weapons again and selling the confiscated materials back onto the free market is the penalty. The legal charges applicable are as such; conspiracy to commit murder (with the weapon(s)), manslaughter (four month suspension, official training upon proper use), murder (with the weapon(s)), armed robbery (with the weapon(s)), rape (wherein the weapon(s) were used to coerce the raped party) or property destruction (with the weapon(s)).
3.0:Furthermore; it shall take no less than a vote of 40% confidence within the senate at the minimum in order to repeal this bill once passed.


Could you explain the last bit? I think the bill needs no special repealing cases.
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Postby DuThaal Craftworld » Tue May 07, 2013 10:41 pm

Yanalia wrote:
DuThaal Craftworld wrote:Repost.
Urgency: Very High

Drafted by: DuThaal Craftworld

Co-Sponsored by: Hathradic States & the party he is Chairman of.

Recognizing the right of the people to bear weaponry,

Noting that this has become a center of controversy within the senate as of late,

Recommending the Senate to adopt this bill in order to ensure the integrity of the Nation,

Hereby puts the following into effect;
1.0:Statement; The right of the people to possess, use and carry firearms shall not be infringed by any state, federal or other governmental authority. And while the right of the people to bear low-power explosives/artillery may be infringed, it shall not be prohibited in most circumstances*. Also not infringed is the right of the people to affix these weapons upon any frame that they wish, so long as they have the consent of the object’s owner.
2.0:Definitions;
2.1:Firearms; Any weapon with a projectile diameter of less than twelve point 7 (12.7) millimeters, a projectile length of less than four (4) centimeters, and utilizes a short combustion cycle to propel said projectile out of the weapon and towards a target. The exception to this is shotgun shells/rounds/calibres, which may be of any size applicable for their purpose. These defined firearms may take the form of pistols, rifles, shotguns and large ‘sniper’ rifles. If the ammunition carries over 1/4 ounce of explosive or 4 ounces of propellant then it is governed as artillery/low power explosives. No harmful (read; toxic/otherwise dangerous) biological or chemical elements are banned, as seen later within this bill.
2.2:Low-power explosives; are any explosive material with an explosive force of less than ten kilograms (22 pounds) when shaped into a regular cube measuring 1cm3 before detonation. Upon and after detonation it may not leave behind any harmful chemical, biological or radiological residue/effects upon the environment.
2.3:Artillery;, for the purpose of this bill, to be any weapon with a projectile diameter above 6.35 centimeters.
2.4:Circumstances under which a member of the populace’s right to bear low power exposives and artillery; as legal charges. Unless otherwise stated, instant confiscation, a ban from owning such weapons again and selling the confiscated materials back onto the free market is the penalty. The legal charges applicable are as such; conspiracy to commit murder (with the weapon(s)), manslaughter (four month suspension, official training upon proper use), murder (with the weapon(s)), armed robbery (with the weapon(s)), rape (wherein the weapon(s) were used to coerce the raped party) or property destruction (with the weapon(s)).
3.0:Furthermore; it shall take no less than a vote of 40% confidence within the senate at the minimum in order to repeal this bill once passed.


Could you explain the last bit? I think the bill needs no special repealing cases.

It's just there to try and make it more difficult to get rid of by other parties at later dates.
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Postby Yanalia » Tue May 07, 2013 10:43 pm

DuThaal Craftworld wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
Could you explain the last bit? I think the bill needs no special repealing cases.

It's just there to try and make it more difficult to get rid of by other parties at later dates.


That's what I thought. I'm not sure exactly what it means, but I would oppose that. Not very democratic.
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