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Postby Geilinor » Sun May 05, 2013 7:08 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:
Public Education Act


Proposed by: Greater Pokarnia (C)
Co-sponsored by: Costa Algeria (PC)

1. A public educational system will be formed under the supervision of the Ministry of Education, which will provide free enrollment to people between the age of 5-18.
2. It will mandatory for children to attend at least 10,500 instructional hours of school, be it at either public, private, or home school. Parents who knowingly prevent their children from meeting this requirement may be subject to fines of up to $10,000 for reach year of school missed and 3 months of jail for each year of school missed.
3. Private schools and home schools must register with the Ministry of Education.
4. Public schools will be funded by the state, and it's employees are to be considered state employees.
5. The Ministry of Education shall be in charge of deciding the curriculum of all public schools.
6. A minimum curriculum shall be drafted by the Ministry of Education for private schools and home schools. Private schools and home schools may teach whatever they want so long as they teach the minimum curriculum. Subdistricts may expand upon this minimum curriculum.
7. The Ministry of Education shall monitor private schools to ensure they are teaching the minimum curriculum. If they fail to do so they will lose recognition by the Ministry of Education and students may not meet their mandatory number of instructional by attending that school.
8. Employees of the Ministry of Education shall administer tests to home-schooled children every 3 months to ensure that they are being taught the minimum curriculum sufficiently. If they fail to pass these tests the home school will lose recognition from the Ministry of Education and student may not meet their mandatory number of instructional hours from that home school.
9. Nobody above the age of 20 may attend a public school.
10. Students attending public schools must enroll with the public education system before age 8.
11. No age restrictions are to be placed by the state onto private or home schools.
12. All recognized schools, be they public, private, or home schools, shall have 12 grade levels comprised of at least 875 instructional hours.
13. The Ministry of Education shall administer a Grade Advancement Test (GAT) at all recognized schools based on the minimum curriculum, which a student must pass before advancing to the next grade level.
13. The Ministry of Education shall provide funding to to public schools as they see fit, but there may never be larger than a 15% funding gap per student enrolled at public schools.
15. There shall be 5 days in the school week, each comprising of 7 hours of instruction per day. Lunch and recess don't count towards this number of hours. Schools must have at least 30 school weeks per year. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
16. Hereby allows students to avoid attending school for national and religious holidays that will not be counted against a students attendance. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
17. Hereby places a 3 month interval between schooling years to occur at the beginning of June, to carry through the end of August. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
18. Subdistricts may enforce their own educational standards so long as they do not conflict with the national standards and the minimum curriculum is still taught.
19. Subdistricts may enforce their own restrictions on private or home schools.


Getting close to a final draft, please read the bill in its entirety and provide feedback and/or co-sponsor it.

10,500 hours? That must be a mistake, senator. http://www.centerforpubliceducation.org/Main-Menu/Organizing-a-school/Time-in-school-How-does-the-US-compare/Hours-of-Instruction-by-Country.pdf There are only 8,765 hours in a year.
it will mandatory for children to attend at least 10,500 instructional hours of school
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Sun May 05, 2013 7:09 pm

Made some changes to the bill again, didn't want to make another post. Changes include defining how many hours are in a grade level and changing all mentions of educational years to instructional hours.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun May 05, 2013 7:10 pm

:palm: You meant 10,500 hours in a lifetime of education(i.e. 11 years).
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Sun May 05, 2013 7:13 pm

Fixed some errors to make a grade level the same number of instructional hours as are in a year of schooling at a public school.

Public Education Act


Proposed by: Greater Pokarnia (C)
Co-sponsored by: Costa Algeria (PC), The Realm of God (PC), Geilinor (LD), Zweite Alaje (NI)

1. A public educational system will be formed under the supervision of the Ministry of Education, which will provide free enrollment to people between the age of 5-18.
2. It will mandatory for children to attend at least 10,500 instructional hours of school, be it at either public, private, or home school. Parents who knowingly prevent their children from meeting this requirement may be subject to fines of up to $10,000 for each 1,500 hours of school missed and 3 months of jail for each 1,500 hours of school missed.
3. Private schools and home schools must register with the Ministry of Education.
4. Public schools will be funded by the state, and it's employees are to be considered state employees.
5. The Ministry of Education shall be in charge of deciding the curriculum of all public schools.
6. A minimum curriculum shall be drafted by the Ministry of Education for private schools and home schools. Private schools and home schools may teach whatever they want so long as they teach the minimum curriculum. Subdistricts may expand upon this minimum curriculum.
7. The Ministry of Education shall monitor private schools to ensure they are teaching the minimum curriculum. If they fail to do so they will lose recognition by the Ministry of Education and students may not meet their mandatory number of instructional by attending that school.
8. Employees of the Ministry of Education shall administer tests to home-schooled children every 3 months to ensure that they are being taught the minimum curriculum sufficiently. If they fail to pass these tests the home school will lose recognition from the Ministry of Education and student may not meet their mandatory number of instructional hours from that home school.
9. Nobody above the age of 20 may attend a public school.
10. Students attending public schools must enroll with the public education system before age 8.
11. No age restrictions are to be placed by the state onto private or home schools.
12. All recognized schools, be they public, private, or home schools, shall have 10 grade levels comprised of at least 1,050 instructional hours.
13. The Ministry of Education shall administer a Grade Advancement Test (GAT) at all recognized schools based on the minimum curriculum, which a student must pass before advancing to the next grade level.
13. The Ministry of Education shall provide funding to to public schools as they see fit, but there may never be larger than a 15% funding gap per student enrolled at public schools.
15. There shall be 5 days in the school week, each comprising of 7 hours of instruction per day. Lunch and recess don't count towards this number of hours. Schools must have at least 30 school weeks per year. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
16. Hereby allows students to avoid attending school for national and religious holidays that will not be counted against a students attendance. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
17. Hereby places a 3 month interval between schooling years to occur at the beginning of June, to carry through the end of August. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
18. Subdistricts may enforce their own educational standards so long as they do not conflict with the national standards and the minimum curriculum is still taught.
19. Subdistricts may enforce their own restrictions on private or home schools.


Would anybody be willing to co-sponsor this to move it into queue?
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Postby The Realm of God » Sun May 05, 2013 7:14 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:
Public Education Act


Proposed by: Greater Pokarnia (C)
Co-sponsored by: Costa Algeria (PC)

1. A public educational system will be formed under the supervision of the Ministry of Education, which will provide free enrollment to people between the age of 5-18.
2. It will mandatory for children to attend at least 10,500 instructional hours of school, be it at either public, private, or home school. Parents who knowingly prevent their children from meeting this requirement may be subject to fines of up to $10,000 for each 1,500 hours of school missed and 3 months of jail for each 1,500 hours of school missed.
3. Private schools and home schools must register with the Ministry of Education.
4. Public schools will be funded by the state, and it's employees are to be considered state employees.
5. The Ministry of Education shall be in charge of deciding the curriculum of all public schools.
6. A minimum curriculum shall be drafted by the Ministry of Education for private schools and home schools. Private schools and home schools may teach whatever they want so long as they teach the minimum curriculum. Subdistricts may expand upon this minimum curriculum.
7. The Ministry of Education shall monitor private schools to ensure they are teaching the minimum curriculum. If they fail to do so they will lose recognition by the Ministry of Education and students may not meet their mandatory number of instructional by attending that school.
8. Employees of the Ministry of Education shall administer tests to home-schooled children every 3 months to ensure that they are being taught the minimum curriculum sufficiently. If they fail to pass these tests the home school will lose recognition from the Ministry of Education and student may not meet their mandatory number of instructional hours from that home school.
9. Nobody above the age of 20 may attend a public school.
10. Students attending public schools must enroll with the public education system before age 8.
11. No age restrictions are to be placed by the state onto private or home schools.
12. All recognized schools, be they public, private, or home schools, shall have 10 grade levels comprised of at least 1,050 instructional hours.
13. The Ministry of Education shall administer a Grade Advancement Test (GAT) at all recognized schools based on the minimum curriculum, which a student must pass before advancing to the next grade level.
13. The Ministry of Education shall provide funding to to public schools as they see fit, but there may never be larger than a 15% funding gap per student enrolled at public schools.
15. There shall be 5 days in the school week, each comprising of 7 hours of instruction per day. Lunch and recess don't count towards this number of hours. Schools must have at least 30 school weeks per year. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
16. Hereby allows students to avoid attending school for national and religious holidays that will not be counted against a students attendance. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
17. Hereby places a 3 month interval between schooling years to occur at the beginning of June, to carry through the end of August. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
18. Subdistricts may enforce their own educational standards so long as they do not conflict with the national standards and the minimum curriculum is still taught.
19. Subdistricts may enforce their own restrictions on private or home schools.


Fixed some errors.


Can I co-sponser this.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun May 05, 2013 7:15 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:Fixed some errors to make a grade level the same number of instructional hours as are in a year of schooling at a public school.

Public Education Act


Proposed by: Greater Pokarnia (C)
Co-sponsored by: Costa Algeria (PC)

1. A public educational system will be formed under the supervision of the Ministry of Education, which will provide free enrollment to people between the age of 5-18.
2. It will mandatory for children to attend at least 10,500 instructional hours of school, be it at either public, private, or home school. Parents who knowingly prevent their children from meeting this requirement may be subject to fines of up to $10,000 for each 1,500 hours of school missed and 3 months of jail for each 1,500 hours of school missed.
3. Private schools and home schools must register with the Ministry of Education.
4. Public schools will be funded by the state, and it's employees are to be considered state employees.
5. The Ministry of Education shall be in charge of deciding the curriculum of all public schools.
6. A minimum curriculum shall be drafted by the Ministry of Education for private schools and home schools. Private schools and home schools may teach whatever they want so long as they teach the minimum curriculum. Subdistricts may expand upon this minimum curriculum.
7. The Ministry of Education shall monitor private schools to ensure they are teaching the minimum curriculum. If they fail to do so they will lose recognition by the Ministry of Education and students may not meet their mandatory number of instructional by attending that school.
8. Employees of the Ministry of Education shall administer tests to home-schooled children every 3 months to ensure that they are being taught the minimum curriculum sufficiently. If they fail to pass these tests the home school will lose recognition from the Ministry of Education and student may not meet their mandatory number of instructional hours from that home school.
9. Nobody above the age of 20 may attend a public school.
10. Students attending public schools must enroll with the public education system before age 8.
11. No age restrictions are to be placed by the state onto private or home schools.
12. All recognized schools, be they public, private, or home schools, shall have 10 grade levels comprised of at least 1,050 instructional hours.
13. The Ministry of Education shall administer a Grade Advancement Test (GAT) at all recognized schools based on the minimum curriculum, which a student must pass before advancing to the next grade level.
13. The Ministry of Education shall provide funding to to public schools as they see fit, but there may never be larger than a 15% funding gap per student enrolled at public schools.
15. There shall be 5 days in the school week, each comprising of 7 hours of instruction per day. Lunch and recess don't count towards this number of hours. Schools must have at least 30 school weeks per year. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
16. Hereby allows students to avoid attending school for national and religious holidays that will not be counted against a students attendance. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
17. Hereby places a 3 month interval between schooling years to occur at the beginning of June, to carry through the end of August. This shall only be enforced at public schools.
18. Subdistricts may enforce their own educational standards so long as they do not conflict with the national standards and the minimum curriculum is still taught.
19. Subdistricts may enforce their own restrictions on private or home schools.


Would anybody be willing to co-sponsor this to move it into queue?

I'll do it.
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Sun May 05, 2013 7:17 pm

Added you both as co-sponsors. Two more and I believe I can just submit it to the chamber and have it automatically added to queue.
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Postby The Treorai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:18 pm

National Space and Scientific Research Agency Establishment Act
An act to found a government agency responsible for scientific exploration and organization.
DRAFT 3

Drafted By Sen. Treorai
Sponsored by:
Sen. Yanalia
Sen. Pokarnia

BELIEVING That intelligence and learning are some of the most important qualities of human society,

WORRIED By the fact that no official state administration exists who's purpose is to pursue the advancement of scientific endeavors outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER BELIEVING That an independent scientific authority will provide an unbiased way to enforce ethical scientific research,

HOPING Increasing emphasis on science will inspire a higher national IQ, and give future generations greater opportunities in education and career choice,

ESTABLISHES The National Space and Scientific Research Agency (NSSRA),

FURTHER ESTABLISHES The position of Director of the NSSRA, to run the operations of the agency,

DEFINES The duties of the NSSRA as;
1. To manage state sponsored scientific experimentation,
2. To organize our national space program,
3. To enforce the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,
4. To promote ethical scientific research,
5. To fund all state sponsored scientific projects,
6. To serve as our nation's primary scientific institution, outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER DEFINES The Code of Ethical Scientific Research as a set of laws that are as follows;
1. No human may be killed in the process of a scientific experiment,
2. No human may be experimented upon without without prior consent
(a) If the subject is not of the appropriate age of consent, his/her Legal Guardian must first give consent, as well as the subject,
(b) No pain may be inflicted upon the subject, unless said pain was explicitly outlined prior to consent,
3. Experiments done upon animals should not result in mutilation, or excessive, long lasting pain to the subject,
4. No experiments shall be done to deceased humans, unless the subject has consented to donate their body to scientific research prior to death,
(a) If the subject was underage at the time of death, his/her Legal Guardian may consent to donate the subject's body to scientific research,
5. Researchers may not profit from their research, unless the research was funded and commissioned by a privately owned operation,
(a) Defines "privately owned operation" as any economic entity outside of our nation's government,
6. Any research in violation of this code is henceforth considered Unethical.

HEREBY Considers the NSSRA second only to the Ministry of Research and Astronomy in scientific authority,

GRANTS The NSSRA the ability to issue a search warrant for those suspected of violating the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,
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Postby Yanalia » Sun May 05, 2013 7:20 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:For the education bill, I believe there should 4 days in the school week, each comprising of 6 and 3/4 hours of instruction per day. Lunch and recess doesn't count towards this number of hours. With 37 weeks of school, which gives room for a 12-week summer vacation, a 2 week winter vacation and a 1 week spring break, it gives 999 hours of instruction per school year.

This is an excellent idea. I'll also probably change the mandatory number of years of school attendance to a number of instructional hours, since private schools may jam more instructional hours into each day/week/month/year.


I don't think that's a good idea. Have a standard set of years. Having children finish school at different times will cause a host of problems. Not to mention the fact that cramming in more hours wouldn't necessarily correspond to equal learning. 1 hour today != 1 hour tomorrow.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:23 pm

The Treorai wrote:
National Space and Scientific Research Agency Establishment Act
An act to found a government agency responsible for scientific exploration and organization.
DRAFT 3

Drafted By Sen. Treorai
Sponsored by:
Sen. Yanalia
Sen. Pokarnia

BELIEVING That intelligence and learning are some of the most important qualities of human society,

WORRIED By the fact that no official state administration exists who's purpose is to pursue the advancement of scientific endeavors outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER BELIEVING That an independent scientific authority will provide an unbiased way to enforce ethical scientific research,

HOPING Increasing emphasis on science will inspire a higher national IQ, and give future generations greater opportunities in education and career choice,

ESTABLISHES The National Space and Scientific Research Agency (NSSRA),

FURTHER ESTABLISHES The position of Director of the NSSRA, to run the operations of the agency,

DEFINES The duties of the NSSRA as;
1. To manage state sponsored scientific experimentation,
2. To organize our national space program,
3. To enforce the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,
4. To promote ethical scientific research,
5. To fund all state sponsored scientific projects,
6. To serve as our nation's primary scientific institution, outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER DEFINES The Code of Ethical Scientific Research as a set of laws that are as follows;
1. No human may be killed in the process of a scientific experiment,
2. No human may be experimented upon without without prior consent
(a) If the subject is not of the appropriate age of consent, his/her Legal Guardian must first give consent, as well as the subject,
(b) No pain may be inflicted upon the subject, unless said pain was explicitly outlined prior to consent,
3. Experiments done upon animals should not result in mutilation, or excessive, long lasting pain to the subject,
4. No experiments shall be done to deceased humans, unless the subject has consented to donate their body to scientific research prior to death,
(a) If the subject was underage at the time of death, his/her Legal Guardian may consent to donate the subject's body to scientific research,
5. Researchers may not profit from their research, unless the research was funded and commissioned by a privately owned operation,
(a) Defines "privately owned operation" as any economic entity outside of our nation's government,
6. Any research in violation of this code is henceforth considered Unethical.

HEREBY Considers the NSSRA second only to the Ministry of Research and Astronomy in scientific authority,

GRANTS The NSSRA the ability to issue a search warrant for those suspected of violating the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,

Why do they need a search warrant? Scientific institutions in RL conduct loads of peer review to counteract this problem, and even if it falls through that crack, then inevitably it gets caught by some reviewer, grad student, admin, whatever. My point is, why does the agency need a warrant power?

Also, could you explain again why this can't fall under the designated ministry?
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sun May 05, 2013 7:26 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:Added you both as co-sponsors. Two more and I believe I can just submit it to the chamber and have it automatically added to queue.

You can add me on as a co-sponsor.
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Postby The Treorai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:27 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
The Treorai wrote:
National Space and Scientific Research Agency Establishment Act
An act to found a government agency responsible for scientific exploration and organization.
DRAFT 3

Drafted By Sen. Treorai
Sponsored by:
Sen. Yanalia
Sen. Pokarnia

BELIEVING That intelligence and learning are some of the most important qualities of human society,

WORRIED By the fact that no official state administration exists who's purpose is to pursue the advancement of scientific endeavors outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER BELIEVING That an independent scientific authority will provide an unbiased way to enforce ethical scientific research,

HOPING Increasing emphasis on science will inspire a higher national IQ, and give future generations greater opportunities in education and career choice,

ESTABLISHES The National Space and Scientific Research Agency (NSSRA),

FURTHER ESTABLISHES The position of Director of the NSSRA, to run the operations of the agency,

DEFINES The duties of the NSSRA as;
1. To manage state sponsored scientific experimentation,
2. To organize our national space program,
3. To enforce the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,
4. To promote ethical scientific research,
5. To fund all state sponsored scientific projects,
6. To serve as our nation's primary scientific institution, outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER DEFINES The Code of Ethical Scientific Research as a set of laws that are as follows;
1. No human may be killed in the process of a scientific experiment,
2. No human may be experimented upon without without prior consent
(a) If the subject is not of the appropriate age of consent, his/her Legal Guardian must first give consent, as well as the subject,
(b) No pain may be inflicted upon the subject, unless said pain was explicitly outlined prior to consent,
3. Experiments done upon animals should not result in mutilation, or excessive, long lasting pain to the subject,
4. No experiments shall be done to deceased humans, unless the subject has consented to donate their body to scientific research prior to death,
(a) If the subject was underage at the time of death, his/her Legal Guardian may consent to donate the subject's body to scientific research,
5. Researchers may not profit from their research, unless the research was funded and commissioned by a privately owned operation,
(a) Defines "privately owned operation" as any economic entity outside of our nation's government,
6. Any research in violation of this code is henceforth considered Unethical.

HEREBY Considers the NSSRA second only to the Ministry of Research and Astronomy in scientific authority,

GRANTS The NSSRA the ability to issue a search warrant for those suspected of violating the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,

Why do they need a search warrant? Scientific institutions in RL conduct loads of peer review to counteract this problem, and even if it falls through that crack, then inevitably it gets caught by some reviewer, grad student, admin, whatever. My point is, why does the agency need a warrant power?

Also, could you explain again why this can't fall under the designated ministry?


To provide an independent way to enforce ethical research. If you place all the power under the executive branch to carry out science, then that provides a large margin for corruption to take hold. While I do not believe our executives would allow such a thing to happen, it is best to have a way to check and balance power. Therefore, this act places the authority to enforce research laws in a power outside of the executive branch, which at the moment is the only place with state given scientific power.

Also, I meant to put Warrant for Arrest, not search warrant. My fault for not double checking.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:34 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:Why do they need a search warrant? Scientific institutions in RL conduct loads of peer review to counteract this problem, and even if it falls through that crack, then inevitably it gets caught by some reviewer, grad student, admin, whatever. My point is, why does the agency need a warrant power?

Also, could you explain again why this can't fall under the designated ministry?


To provide an independent way to enforce ethical research. If you place all the power under the executive branch to carry out science, then that provides a large margin for corruption to take hold. While I do not believe our executives would allow such a thing to happen, it is best to have a way to check and balance power. Therefore, this act places the authority to enforce research laws in a power outside of the executive branch, which at the moment is the only place with state given scientific power.

Ah, ok. Sounds reasonable to me.

Also, I meant to put Warrant for Arrest, not search warrant. My fault for not double checking.

That's almost worse. You're effectively giving this organization police power, which would fall under the executive branch, something you're explicitly trying to get away from with this bill.
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Sun May 05, 2013 7:35 pm

Anybody who co-sponsored the Education Act ought to second my motion to add it to queue in the chamber.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun May 05, 2013 7:35 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
The Treorai wrote:
National Space and Scientific Research Agency Establishment Act
An act to found a government agency responsible for scientific exploration and organization.
DRAFT 3

Drafted By Sen. Treorai
Sponsored by:
Sen. Yanalia
Sen. Pokarnia

BELIEVING That intelligence and learning are some of the most important qualities of human society,

WORRIED By the fact that no official state administration exists who's purpose is to pursue the advancement of scientific endeavors outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER BELIEVING That an independent scientific authority will provide an unbiased way to enforce ethical scientific research,

HOPING Increasing emphasis on science will inspire a higher national IQ, and give future generations greater opportunities in education and career choice,

ESTABLISHES The National Space and Scientific Research Agency (NSSRA),

FURTHER ESTABLISHES The position of Director of the NSSRA, to run the operations of the agency,

DEFINES The duties of the NSSRA as;
1. To manage state sponsored scientific experimentation,
2. To organize our national space program,
3. To enforce the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,
4. To promote ethical scientific research,
5. To fund all state sponsored scientific projects,
6. To serve as our nation's primary scientific institution, outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER DEFINES The Code of Ethical Scientific Research as a set of laws that are as follows;
1. No human may be killed in the process of a scientific experiment,
2. No human may be experimented upon without without prior consent
(a) If the subject is not of the appropriate age of consent, his/her Legal Guardian must first give consent, as well as the subject,
(b) No pain may be inflicted upon the subject, unless said pain was explicitly outlined prior to consent,
3. Experiments done upon animals should not result in mutilation, or excessive, long lasting pain to the subject,
4. No experiments shall be done to deceased humans, unless the subject has consented to donate their body to scientific research prior to death,
(a) If the subject was underage at the time of death, his/her Legal Guardian may consent to donate the subject's body to scientific research,
5. Researchers may not profit from their research, unless the research was funded and commissioned by a privately owned operation,
(a) Defines "privately owned operation" as any economic entity outside of our nation's government,
6. Any research in violation of this code is henceforth considered Unethical.

HEREBY Considers the NSSRA second only to the Ministry of Research and Astronomy in scientific authority,

GRANTS The NSSRA the ability to issue a search warrant for those suspected of violating the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,

Why do they need a search warrant? Scientific institutions in RL conduct loads of peer review to counteract this problem, and even if it falls through that crack, then inevitably it gets caught by some reviewer, grad student, admin, whatever. My point is, why does the agency need a warrant power?


There could be a circumstance where it is not caught. Let's say someone's rights are violated. Is peer review always going to catch it?
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Postby Geilinor » Sun May 05, 2013 7:36 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:Anybody who co-sponsored the Education Act ought to second my motion to add it to queue in the chamber.

Seconded
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Postby The Treorai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:37 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
The Treorai wrote:
To provide an independent way to enforce ethical research. If you place all the power under the executive branch to carry out science, then that provides a large margin for corruption to take hold. While I do not believe our executives would allow such a thing to happen, it is best to have a way to check and balance power. Therefore, this act places the authority to enforce research laws in a power outside of the executive branch, which at the moment is the only place with state given scientific power.

Ah, ok. Sounds reasonable to me.

Also, I meant to put Warrant for Arrest, not search warrant. My fault for not double checking.

That's almost worse. You're effectively giving this organization police power, which would fall under the executive branch, something you're explicitly trying to get away from with this bill.

The bill gives them the ability to arrest those who violate that which they are supposed to enforce.
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Postby The Treorai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:39 pm

National Space and Scientific Research Agency Establishment Act
An act to found a government agency responsible for scientific exploration and organization.
DRAFT 4

Drafted By Sen. Treorai
Sponsored by:
Sen. Yanalia
Sen. Pokarnia

BELIEVING That intelligence and learning are some of the most important qualities of human society,

WORRIED By the fact that no official state administration exists who's purpose is to pursue the advancement of scientific endeavors outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER BELIEVING That an independent scientific authority will provide an unbiased way to enforce ethical scientific research,

HOPING Increasing emphasis on science will inspire a higher national IQ, and give future generations greater opportunities in education and career choice,

ESTABLISHES The National Space and Scientific Research Agency (NSSRA),

FURTHER ESTABLISHES The position of Director of the NSSRA, to run the operations of the agency,

DEFINES The duties of the NSSRA as;
1. To manage state sponsored scientific experimentation,
2. To organize our national space program,
3. To enforce the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,
4. To promote ethical scientific research,
5. To fund all state sponsored scientific projects,
6. To serve as our nation's primary scientific institution, outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER DEFINES The Code of Ethical Scientific Research as a set of laws that are as follows;
1. No human may be killed in the process of a scientific experiment,
2. No human may be experimented upon without without prior consent
(a) If the subject is not of the appropriate age of consent, his/her Legal Guardian must first give consent, as well as the subject,
(b) No pain may be inflicted upon the subject, unless said pain was explicitly outlined prior to consent,
3. Experiments done upon animals should not result in mutilation, or excessive, long lasting pain to the subject,
4. No experiments shall be done to deceased humans, unless the subject has consented to donate their body to scientific research prior to death,
(a) If the subject was underage at the time of death, his/her Legal Guardian may consent to donate the subject's body to scientific research,
5. Researchers may not profit from their research, unless the research was funded and commissioned by a privately owned operation,
(a) Defines "privately owned operation" as any economic entity outside of our nation's government,
6. Any research in violation of this code is henceforth considered unethical and illegal,

HEREBY Considers the NSSRA second only to the Ministry of Research and Astronomy in scientific authority,

REQUIRES All scientific research centers in our nation to register themselves with the NSSRA,

GRANTS The NSSRA to inspect any site in our nation that is carrying out scientific research,

FURTHER GRANTS The NSSRA the ability to issue a warrant for the arrest for those suspected of violating the Code of Ethical Scientific Research.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:39 pm

The Treorai wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote:Ah, ok. Sounds reasonable to me.


That's almost worse. You're effectively giving this organization police power, which would fall under the executive branch, something you're explicitly trying to get away from with this bill.

The bill gives them the ability to arrest those who violate that which they are supposed to enforce.

I'm against it, then. I don't think non-law enforcement agencies should have the power of law enforcement. However, if you were to give them the power to mandate a police review of the situation (rather than an active warrant), that would be ok.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun May 05, 2013 7:41 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
The Treorai wrote:The bill gives them the ability to arrest those who violate that which they are supposed to enforce.

However, if you were to give them the power to mandate a police review of the situation, that would be ok.

That works too.
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Postby The Treorai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:42 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Maklohi Vai wrote: However, if you were to give them the power to mandate a police review of the situation, that would be ok.

That works too.

Alright, I will change the wording.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Costa Alegria » Sun May 05, 2013 7:43 pm

Also for your consideration, senators:

Internal Security Bill (2013)
Co-drafted by: Costa Alegria and Wolfmanne || Urgency: High
Co-sponsors: Progressive-Conservative Party(?), Britcan (TR, possible)

Preamble


The security of our nation is a top priority for the government and the Senate. Election to the Senate gives you the responsibility to ensure that you can hold the government to account in ensuring the safety and security of our people. However, it is not the responsibility of individual political parties to act as the judge, jury and executioner, for only multiple political parties and not just one can hold the government to account. Furthermore, we recognise that whether you support or oppose the Right to Bear Arms, in a time such as this, we need to reach a compromise until specific firearms legislation promoting or restricting the ownership of guns. In order to further the government's ability to ensure the security of this nation, we see the need for the creation of a government organisation to do just that, as evidenced by the 1st Festival of Republic, where armed right-wing paramilitaries are attempting to agitate left-wing paramilitaries into destabilising the nation.

Article 1: On Paramilitaries
1a: All paramilitaries, with the exception of those under the auspices of government agencies, are to be formally disbanded, including those under political parties and those otherwise independent from them, such as vigilante groups or citizen militias.
1b: All paramilitaries are to surrender their arms, munitions and vehicles with mounted weaponry that may have the potential of causing lethal harm to others to the Ministry of Justice, who shall issue disarmament warrants to law enforcement agencies.
1c: Paramilitaries that fail to disarm or be disbanded are to be designated as terrorist organisations. If they are under the auspices of a parent organisation, such as a political party, then they are to dissuade links from that paramilitary or they to shall be considered a terrorist organisation.
1d: The creation of new paramilitaries, vigilante groups and citizen militias is banned and all new paramilitaries are to be recognised as terrorist organisations. Any organisations, such as political parties, that endorse new paramilitaries, vigilante groups and citizen militias are also to be designated as terrorist organisations.
1e: Paramilitaries or individual members who fail to disarm may be arrested and trialed on the charges of refusal to disarm, illegal promotion of paramilitary activities and terrorism.

Article 2: The Gendarmerie
1a: In light of potential civil war and for use in a time of a national or regional emergency the Aurentinian Gendarmerie is to be established under the auspices of the Ministry of the Interior.
1b: The Aurentinian Gendarmerie is shall provide security of public institutions, ministries and courts, embassies and consulates international airports, national museums, nuclear power plants, riots & crowds control, publicly crowded events and our national borders.
1c: The Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall conduct high risk arrests, disaster response, SWAT operations, the suppression of internal armed conflicts and riots, the policing of areas without a sufficient amount of civilian police, to support local constabularies and counter-terrorism operations.
1d: The Gendarmerie shall be organised into a series of Brigades consisting of a number of Regiments from different regions.
1e: In times of war, the Gendarmerie or individual Brigades and Regiments may be drafted by the National Defense Force to provide rear security, police the military and for national defense against external threats, based upon the threat to national security this war may have. Gendarmes are to be considered a part of the military and not civilians, however whilst the Aurentinian Gendarmerie is considered to be a military organisation, it does not come under the National Defense Force but the Ministry of the Interior, unless they have been drafted.
1f: Gendarmes shall have policing powers as established by the Policing and Law Enforcement Act.


Article 3: Terrorist Organisations
3a: A terrorist organisation shall be defined as an armed paramilitary, vigilante or citizen militias that have refused to be disarmed in accordance with the paramilitary ban in Articles 1a.
3b: Herein also extends the definition of terrorist organisations as groups that act in a violent manner towards the state and its citizens and those that commit acts of violence against the state and its citizens for the advancement of an agenda.
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Postby The Treorai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:43 pm

National Space and Scientific Research Agency Establishment Act
An act to found a government agency responsible for scientific exploration and organization.
DRAFT 5

Drafted By Sen. Treorai
Sponsored by:
Sen. Yanalia
Sen. Pokarnia

BELIEVING That intelligence and learning are some of the most important qualities of human society,

WORRIED By the fact that no official state administration exists who's purpose is to pursue the advancement of scientific endeavors outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER BELIEVING That an independent scientific authority will provide an unbiased way to enforce ethical scientific research,

HOPING Increasing emphasis on science will inspire a higher national IQ, and give future generations greater opportunities in education and career choice,

ESTABLISHES The National Space and Scientific Research Agency (NSSRA),

FURTHER ESTABLISHES The position of Director of the NSSRA, to run the operations of the agency,

DEFINES The duties of the NSSRA as;
1. To manage state sponsored scientific experimentation,
2. To organize our national space program,
3. To enforce the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,
4. To promote ethical scientific research,
5. To fund all state sponsored scientific projects,
6. To serve as our nation's primary scientific institution, outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER DEFINES The Code of Ethical Scientific Research as a set of laws that are as follows;
1. No human may be killed in the process of a scientific experiment,
2. No human may be experimented upon without without prior consent
(a) If the subject is not of the appropriate age of consent, his/her Legal Guardian must first give consent, as well as the subject,
(b) No pain may be inflicted upon the subject, unless said pain was explicitly outlined prior to consent,
3. Experiments done upon animals should not result in mutilation, or excessive, long lasting pain to the subject,
4. No experiments shall be done to deceased humans, unless the subject has consented to donate their body to scientific research prior to death,
(a) If the subject was underage at the time of death, his/her Legal Guardian may consent to donate the subject's body to scientific research,
5. Researchers may not profit from their research, unless the research was funded and commissioned by a privately owned operation,
(a) Defines "privately owned operation" as any economic entity outside of our nation's government,
6. Any research in violation of this code is henceforth considered unethical and illegal,

HEREBY Considers the NSSRA second only to the Ministry of Research and Astronomy in scientific authority,

REQUIRES All scientific research centers in our nation to register themselves with the NSSRA,

GRANTS The NSSRA to inspect any site in our nation that is carrying out scientific research,

FURTHER GRANTS The NSSRA the power to mandate a police investigation of those suspected of violating the Code of Ethical Scientific Research.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:47 pm

The Treorai wrote:
National Space and Scientific Research Agency Establishment Act
An act to found a government agency responsible for scientific exploration and organization.
DRAFT 5

Drafted By Sen. Treorai
Sponsored by:
Sen. Yanalia
Sen. Pokarnia

BELIEVING That intelligence and learning are some of the most important qualities of human society,

WORRIED By the fact that no official state administration exists who's purpose is to pursue the advancement of scientific endeavors outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER BELIEVING That an independent scientific authority will provide an unbiased way to enforce ethical scientific research,

HOPING Increasing emphasis on science will inspire a higher national IQ, and give future generations greater opportunities in education and career choice,

ESTABLISHES The National Space and Scientific Research Agency (NSSRA),

FURTHER ESTABLISHES The position of Director of the NSSRA, to run the operations of the agency,

DEFINES The duties of the NSSRA as;
1. To manage state sponsored scientific experimentation,
2. To organize our national space program,
3. To enforce the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,
4. To promote ethical scientific research,
5. To fund all state sponsored scientific projects,
6. To serve as our nation's primary scientific institution, outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER DEFINES The Code of Ethical Scientific Research as a set of laws that are as follows;
1. No human may be killed in the process of a scientific experiment,
2. No human may be experimented upon without without prior consent
(a) If the subject is not of the appropriate age of consent, his/her Legal Guardian must first give consent, as well as the subject,
(b) No pain may be inflicted upon the subject, unless said pain was explicitly outlined prior to consent,
3. Experiments done upon animals should not result in mutilation, or excessive, long lasting pain to the subject,
4. No experiments shall be done to deceased humans, unless the subject has consented to donate their body to scientific research prior to death,
(a) If the subject was underage at the time of death, his/her Legal Guardian may consent to donate the subject's body to scientific research,
5. Researchers may not profit from their research, unless the research was funded and commissioned by a privately owned operation,
(a) Defines "privately owned operation" as any economic entity outside of our nation's government,
6. Any research in violation of this code is henceforth considered unethical and illegal,

HEREBY Considers the NSSRA second only to the Ministry of Research and Astronomy in scientific authority,

REQUIRES All scientific research centers in our nation to register themselves with the NSSRA,

GRANTS The NSSRA to inspect any site in our nation that is carrying out scientific research,

FURTHER GRANTS The NSSRA the power to mandate a police investigation of those suspected of violating the Code of Ethical Scientific Research.

Ok, a couple more questions:
1. Why does the NSSRA control the space program and not the ministry?
2. Why use IQ as a scale of intelligence? It's more a scale of learning ability, which is different than intelligence.
3. Why does the NSSRA fund research programs and not the ministry, considering that the ministry realistically has more money than a mere agency?
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Postby The Treorai » Sun May 05, 2013 7:51 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
The Treorai wrote:
National Space and Scientific Research Agency Establishment Act
An act to found a government agency responsible for scientific exploration and organization.
DRAFT 5

Drafted By Sen. Treorai
Sponsored by:
Sen. Yanalia
Sen. Pokarnia

BELIEVING That intelligence and learning are some of the most important qualities of human society,

WORRIED By the fact that no official state administration exists who's purpose is to pursue the advancement of scientific endeavors outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER BELIEVING That an independent scientific authority will provide an unbiased way to enforce ethical scientific research,

HOPING Increasing emphasis on science will inspire a higher national IQ, and give future generations greater opportunities in education and career choice,

ESTABLISHES The National Space and Scientific Research Agency (NSSRA),

FURTHER ESTABLISHES The position of Director of the NSSRA, to run the operations of the agency,

DEFINES The duties of the NSSRA as;
1. To manage state sponsored scientific experimentation,
2. To organize our national space program,
3. To enforce the Code of Ethical Scientific Research,
4. To promote ethical scientific research,
5. To fund all state sponsored scientific projects,
6. To serve as our nation's primary scientific institution, outside of the executive branch of government,

FURTHER DEFINES The Code of Ethical Scientific Research as a set of laws that are as follows;
1. No human may be killed in the process of a scientific experiment,
2. No human may be experimented upon without without prior consent
(a) If the subject is not of the appropriate age of consent, his/her Legal Guardian must first give consent, as well as the subject,
(b) No pain may be inflicted upon the subject, unless said pain was explicitly outlined prior to consent,
3. Experiments done upon animals should not result in mutilation, or excessive, long lasting pain to the subject,
4. No experiments shall be done to deceased humans, unless the subject has consented to donate their body to scientific research prior to death,
(a) If the subject was underage at the time of death, his/her Legal Guardian may consent to donate the subject's body to scientific research,
5. Researchers may not profit from their research, unless the research was funded and commissioned by a privately owned operation,
(a) Defines "privately owned operation" as any economic entity outside of our nation's government,
6. Any research in violation of this code is henceforth considered unethical and illegal,

HEREBY Considers the NSSRA second only to the Ministry of Research and Astronomy in scientific authority,

REQUIRES All scientific research centers in our nation to register themselves with the NSSRA,

GRANTS The NSSRA to inspect any site in our nation that is carrying out scientific research,

FURTHER GRANTS The NSSRA the power to mandate a police investigation of those suspected of violating the Code of Ethical Scientific Research.

Ok, a couple more questions:
1. Why does the NSSRA control the space program and not the ministry?
2. Why use IQ as a scale of intelligence? It's more a scale of learning ability, which is different than intelligence.
3. Why does the NSSRA fund research programs and not the ministry, considering that the ministry realistically has more money than a mere agency?

1. The NSSRA doesn't control the space program, it organizes it. It's only there to make sure that the Ministry keeps the nation's best interests when dictating space travel.
2. IQ was just the first thing that came to my mind. If you had a better suggestion, I would be happy to change it.
3. That's actually a fair point I didn't think about. I'll take that off the list of duties.
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Dumb Ideologies wrote:It's a situation intrinsic to the committed ideologue. Whenever one makes a counter-argument the goalposts seem not only to move in two dimensions but also float several hundred thousand miles above the pitch whilst wearing cast-iron earplugs.

Rainbows and Rivers wrote:Dictators blaming America for all their problems? That's new.

Caninope wrote:If I think in my mind that the book sitting in front of me is Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows when it is in fact Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, 11th Edition, then it doesn't make me any more objectively correct.

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