NSG Senate Coffee Shop [NSG Senate]

[Agritum]

Will the PSF resist the state police?

Will the State police be the ones attempting to disarm us?

According to legislation, yes.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Will the State police be the ones attempting to disarm us?

According to legislation, yes.

That will cause lots of hell.

[Aeken]

Will the PSF resist the state police?

Will the State police be the ones attempting to disarm us?

I am suggesting they might. I am not sure, but it would make sense for them to.

[Hathradic States]

Will the State police be the ones attempting to disarm us?

According to legislation, yes.

Then they will have a fight. This is nothing but an attempt by the leftist parties to disarm not only the PSF, but the Monarchist and the Stalinist, and at the cost of the personal liberties of the People.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Then let's withdraw the socialist gun control thing before it puts a disaster upon the country?

[Hathradic States]

According to legislation, yes.

That will cause lots of hell.

Hell? That's an understatement.

[Agritum]

According to legislation, yes.

Then they will have a fight. This is nothing but an attempt by the leftist parties to disarm not only the PSF, but the Monarchist and the Stalinist, and at the cost of the personal liberties of the People.

I'd personally prefer this not to end in bloodshed, but as party leader, the decision remains yours. That's it, in case the Act passes.

[Hathradic States]

Then they will have a fight. This is nothing but an attempt by the leftist parties to disarm not only the PSF, but the Monarchist and the Stalinist, and at the cost of the personal liberties of the People.

I'd personally prefer this not to end in bloodshed, but as party leader, the decision remains yours. That's it, in case the Act passes.

If you wish to avoid bloodshed, maybe you should not pass legislation targeting the Party and our allies.

[Hathradic States]

Then let's withdraw the socialist gun control thing before it puts a disaster upon the country?

Seconded.

[New Freedomstan]

Then let's withdraw the socialist gun control thing before it puts a disaster upon the country?

It's not socialist. At all. Most real socialists are against restricting gun ownership. This is pure social-democracy.

Also, the bill in its current form seems to ban most rifles (as magazines are interchangeable for them) and super soakers. And how many tens of thousands of full-time employees must the cops hire simply to review applications?

[Ziegenhain]

Then let's withdraw the socialist totalitarian gun control thing before it puts a disaster upon the country?

Seconded.

Thirded.

[Agritum]

Seconded.

Thirded.

I'm not really sure if this is permitted by Senate laws.

[Unicario]

Nationalhymne Act
Proposed by Unicario

1. At the passage of this bill by the Senate, immediately, the national anthem of the Aurentine nation will be as follows:

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine homeland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine homeland! :|

[Glasgia]

Seconded.

Thirded.

Can you move to remove something from the queue?

[Shrillland]

Seconded.

Thirded.

Fourthed.

My party has no specific issue in this in our platform, but I as an individual think this bill, while it has good intentions is too extreme.

[Shrillland]

Nationalhymne Act
Proposed by Unicario

1. At the passage of this bill by the Senate, immediately, the national anthem of the Aurentine nation will be as follows:

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine homeland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine homeland! :|

I think it may be better served as an amendment to the NSA, if it passes.

[Glasgia]

Nationalhymne Act
Proposed by Unicario

1. At the passage of this bill by the Senate, immediately, the national anthem of the Aurentine nation will be as follows:

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine homeland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine homeland! :|

Nice, but it'd be good to find a tune. I can write one on the guitar or get my sister to knock something up for the piano?

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Nationalhymne Act
Proposed by Unicario

1. At the passage of this bill by the Senate, immediately, the national anthem of the Aurentine nation will be as follows:

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine homeland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine homeland! :|

I think it may be better served as an amendment to the NSA, if it passes.

I agree with this

[Unicario]

Nationalhymne Act
Proposed by Unicario

1. At the passage of this bill by the Senate, immediately, the national anthem of the Aurentine nation will be as follows:

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine homeland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine homeland! :|

Nice, but it'd be good to find a tune. I can write one on the guitar or get my sister to knock something up for the piano?

It has a tune. It's the third stanza of Deutschlandlied.

[Diopolis]

Thirded.

Fourthed.

My party has no specific issue in this in our platform, but I as an individual think this bill, while it has good intentions is too extreme.

Fifthed.

[Irredento]

National subdivisions act
Author: Diopolis
Cosponsors: Greater Pokarnia
Recognizing the need for some sort of national subdivision system, the government of Aurentine hereby establishes electoral districts as national subdivisions to be run by their senators.
1. The governments of the individual districts are to be established by the senators representing said districts.
A. The governments of said districts may pass any law that does not contradict the laws of the national government of Aurentine
B. The governments of said districts must enforce both national and district laws, however national police forces may also enforce national law
2. The governments of individual districts shall remain subjurisdictions of the nation of Aurentine
A. The governments of the individual districts are responsible for collecting the taxes owed to the national government
B. The governments of the individual districts shall not block or restrict access to any services or information provided by the national government
C. In any area in which districts are held to be responsible, districts must pass a law addressing the issue within one week
D. District governments are responsible for regulating what types of firearms may be bought, sold, or possessed in their territory
E. No district shall declare war on any other district or foreign power, nor shall districts negotiate directly with foreign nations
F. While districts may issue their own currency, they must provide a currency board to exchange it for the national currency and must pay taxes in the national currency

I endorse this and would like to be listed as a sponsor.

[Yankee Empire]

Thirded.

Can you move to remove something from the queue?

You should be able to, hell i was just thinking about that actually, or maybe putting foreward legislaton that needs a 3/4 majrity to pass rather than tiny amounts of votes alowwing soem to squeek by.

[The Realm of God]

Opposed. A state should not have the power to nullify the will of the rest of the country (through those elected Senators) within its own borders. We are a country, not a collection of communities, and our laws should apply equally to all.

After reading, isn't that the Un-edited version?

This is the current version without the Nullification clause:

Semi-Autonomous Zone Creation Act

Drafted by: The New Sea Territory

Sponsors:

Realizing that the people of the "Galt's Gulch" area, which is about four subdistricts, and the surrounding area, wish to create a semi-autonomous state.

Further Realizing that all of these subdistricts have Objectivist Party representatives and large objectivist movements. These leaders are the forefront of the Semi-Autonomous movement as a peaceful way to govern the way their people seem to want, but can not do so because of lack of support in the Senate. The Gulch area wishes to govern according to a more minarchic agenda without openly defying the entire country. These Senators include:

Galt's Gulch
•The New Sea Territory
•Yootoepia
•Apocrypha24
•North-West Molovsky

Other Neighboring Subdistricts
•Liberosia
•Snabagag
•West Florida


Understanding that this will not exempt the semi-autonomous zone from taxation or representation in the Senate.

Further Understanding that the SA-Zone will be required to recognize laws set forth by the Senate, and obey the Senate's rulings that target it.

Declaring that the seven total subdistricts, four that make up the Gulch and three that wish to be included and have backing for it, will be considered the Semi-Autonomous Zone.

Allowing the semi-autonomous zone to pass legislation independently, so long as it does not openly contradict the Senate.

Further Allowing the SA-Zone to collect it's own taxes on top of Federal taxes, and allowing the zone to select the methods of collecting taxes (income tax, sales tax, consumption tax, etc.) The SA-Zone may also accept gold and silver coins as a legal tender, since much of the population already does so.

Requiring that citizens of the SA-Zone pay 10% extra in taxes (with it's choice of how to collect said taxes). The governing body of the zone will be held accountable if extra taxes are not paid directly to the Senate. These taxes must be paid in the state currency.

Recognizing that the SA-Zone as self-governing, and that is is still part of our nation, so open borders will be an absolute requirement.

Permitting the semi-autonomous zone to have it's own state militia as a state guard. This militia will not receive funding from the rest of the nation, and must be entirely funded by the citizens of the SA-Zone.

Hereby Creates the Galt's Gulch SA-Zone. The Zone will include seven subdistricts of neighboring lands that surround the Gulch.

Opposed, this is a unity state until anyone says otherwise.

[Diopolis]

I endorse this and would like to be listed as a sponsor.

National subdivisions act
Author: Diopolis
Cosponsors: Greater Pokarnia, Irredento
Recognizing the need for some sort of national subdivision system, the government of Aurentine hereby establishes electoral districts as national subdivisions to be run by their senators.
1. The governments of the individual districts are to be established by the senators representing said districts.
A. The governments of said districts may pass any law that does not contradict the laws of the national government of Aurentine
B. The governments of said districts must enforce both national and district laws, however national police forces may also enforce national law
2. The governments of individual districts shall remain subjurisdictions of the nation of Aurentine
A. The governments of the individual districts are responsible for collecting the taxes owed to the national government, however the national government may monitor/audit collection of taxes
B. The governments of the individual districts shall not block or restrict access to any services or information provided by the national government
C. In any area in which districts are held to be responsible, districts must pass a law addressing the issue within one week
D. District governments are responsible for regulating what types of firearms may be bought, sold, or possessed in their territory, as long as it is in accordance with clause 1A
E. No district shall declare war on any other district or foreign power, nor shall districts negotiate directly with foreign nations
F. No district shall secede or declare any degree of autonomy from Aurentine unless approved by the senate and 2/3 of the district's populace
G.The governments of districts may not prohibit the free flow of people, information, or goods across their borders

If you still endorse it, you may wish to fifth the motion that it be put in queue for voting.

[Shrillland]

We are a unitary state until we alter our constitution to create a federal state. I utterly reject this bill.