NSG Senate Lobby [NSG Senate]

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

That was the counter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy

Go to page 370 of the Senate Chamber, I have nothing to hide, sir

Or assemble information in a way that misleads people

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I laugh at this so much: We show you proofs, and then you just start calling us names, and not face the truth

Well, anyway, I believe in Compromise and I am always open to discussion

i don't think you get it

And I think you don't get that your Presidential candidate told me in my face, that she thinks she has enough numbers to pass a bill and won't compromise

[Ainin]

Wow, the Texas Sharpshooter is performing great tonight...

I laugh at this so much: We show you proofs, and then you just start calling us names, and not face the truth

Well, anyway, I believe in Compromise and I am always open to discussion

And I'm dismissing your proof as fallacious. This is the NSG senate after all

[Ainin]

i don't think you get it

And I think you don't get that your Presidential candidate told me in my face, that she thinks she has enough numbers to pass a bill and won't compromise

That's still a Texas Sharpshooter. One person != the left

[Resora]

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We are proposing to cover 50%-60% of the costs. Why cannot you compromise?

Because I think we can win, and frankly I don't see the logic in covering 50% of the costs. What is your argument for that, except taking the average between 0 and 100?

Alright. I guess we will find out in the ballot place. But for the record, and I will actually take a screen shot of this, they prefer to polarize the Senate more, than to actually compromise

Segregation was also presented as a "compromise" between integration and flat-out denial of service.

Those quotes were into response to an amendment that would have singled out sex reassignment surgery for sub-par treatment, despite the fact that it easily meets the criteria of "medical necessity" as defined by the healthcare act -- the sole reasoning for this being to save millions in a country that generates trillions.

The healthcare bill ITSELF was a compromise, as it differed on several critical points from what Chestaan originally wrote to win support from the right. We are more than willing to compromise for the greater good, but don't expect us to sacrifice positions and values as central as our opposition to discrimination.

[Byzantium Imperial]

That was the counter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy

Counter example i meant. Besides, these sure as hell arnt unrelated.

Your PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE has been screenshotted as completly unwilling to compromise, and he is supposed to represent the united left. What does that say about the left i wonder...

il repost this because you dont seem to realize there is no fallacy. We can easily go about collecting more examples if you want.


for the above: a compromise accepted by liberal dems, economically sound, and sitll benefiting transgenders more then the general population (giving them preferential treatment) is a pretty good compromise. Thre was no exuse for the flat out denial it got

[Ainin]

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Are you implying we tax rocks, senator?

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

I laugh at this so much: We show you proofs, and then you just start calling us names, and not face the truth

Well, anyway, I believe in Compromise and I am always open to discussion

And I'm dismissing your proof as fallacious. This is the NSG senate after all

And I again say, go to page 370 of the Senate Chamber. Your Presidential candidate told me in my face that she has enough numbers to pass a bill, and so that is the reason why she won't compromise.
You can keep calling my proof whatever you want, the truth will prevail

[Arumdaum]

That was the counter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_sharpshooter_fallacy

Counter example i meant. Besides, these sure as hell arnt unrelated.

Your PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE has been screenshotted as completly unwilling to compromise, and he is supposed to represent the united left. What does that say about the left i wonder...

The Texas sharpshooter fallacy often arises when a person has a large amount of data at his disposal, but only focuses on a small subset of that data.

Huh. I wonder what happened here.

Or am I also Yanalia? Yanalia must control Ainin's account too!

[Byzantium Imperial]

Counter example i meant. Besides, these sure as hell arnt unrelated.

Your PRESIDENTIAL CANIDATE has been screenshotted as completly unwilling to compromise, and he is supposed to represent the united left. What does that say about the left i wonder...

The Texas sharpshooter fallacy often arises when a person has a large amount of data at his disposal, but only focuses on a small subset of that data.

Huh. I wonder what happened here.

Or am I also Yanalia? Yanalia must control Ainin's account too!

We shall go collect more evidense and bring it before you. I am not accusing you specifically of it. I am just saying that the one in charge of the left has shown she is unwilling to compromise, and since she is leading you...

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Segregation was also presented as a "compromise" between integration and flat-out denial of service.

Those quotes were into response to an amendment that would have singled out sex reassignment surgery for sub-par treatment, despite the fact that it easily meets the criteria of "medical necessity" as defined by the healthcare act -- the sole reasoning for this being to save millions in a country that generates trillions.

The healthcare bill ITSELF was a compromise, as it differed on several critical points from what Chestaan originally wrote to win support from the right. We are more than willing to compromise for the greater good, but don't expect us to sacrifice positions and values as central as our opposition to discrimination.

There are two opposing views, with two different stances. Compromise is to go to the middle.

[Ainin]

Huh. I wonder what happened here.

Or am I also Yanalia? Yanalia must control Ainin's account too!

We shall go collect more evidense and bring it before you. I am not accusing you specifically of it. I am just saying that the one in charge of the left has shown she is unwilling to compromise, and since she is leading you...

I'm sorry, but does the name "Tom Jenkins" sound like a "she"?

[Arumdaum]

Huh. I wonder what happened here.

Or am I also Yanalia? Yanalia must control Ainin's account too!

We shall go collect more evidense and bring it before you. I am not accusing you specifically of it. I am just saying that the one in charge of the left has shown she is unwilling to compromise, and since she is leading you...

Regardless of a person's position, a single person's personality and arguments does not represent that of an entire group of around a hundred people.

[Ainin]

Huh. I wonder what happened here.

Or am I also Yanalia? Yanalia must control Ainin's account too!

We shall go collect more evidense and bring it before you. I am not accusing you specifically of it. I am just saying that the one in charge of the left has shown she is unwilling to compromise, and since she is leading you...

That's still a Texas Sharpshooter, until the aforementioned evidence can be illustrate to be from "most of the left".

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Huh. I wonder what happened here.

Or am I also Yanalia? Yanalia must control Ainin's account too!

We shall go collect more evidense and bring it before you. I am not accusing you specifically of it. I am just saying that the one in charge of the left has shown she is unwilling to compromise, and since she is leading you...

We should all keep in mind all the pages of each thread in which there is evidence of uncompromising.
So far we have page 370 of the Chamber...

[Arumdaum]

Segregation was also presented as a "compromise" between integration and flat-out denial of service.

Those quotes were into response to an amendment that would have singled out sex reassignment surgery for sub-par treatment, despite the fact that it easily meets the criteria of "medical necessity" as defined by the healthcare act -- the sole reasoning for this being to save millions in a country that generates trillions.

The healthcare bill ITSELF was a compromise, as it differed on several critical points from what Chestaan originally wrote to win support from the right. We are more than willing to compromise for the greater good, but don't expect us to sacrifice positions and values as central as our opposition to discrimination.

There are two opposing views, with two different stances. Compromise is to go to the middle.

Actually, it's where two sides both give up part of their demands, not to go to some arbitrary "middle."

[Resora]

Segregation was also presented as a "compromise" between integration and flat-out denial of service.

Those quotes were into response to an amendment that would have singled out sex reassignment surgery for sub-par treatment, despite the fact that it easily meets the criteria of "medical necessity" as defined by the healthcare act -- the sole reasoning for this being to save millions in a country that generates trillions.

The healthcare bill ITSELF was a compromise, as it differed on several critical points from what Chestaan originally wrote to win support from the right. We are more than willing to compromise for the greater good, but don't expect us to sacrifice positions and values as central as our opposition to discrimination.

There are two opposing views, with two different stances. Compromise is to go to the middle.

I'll remember that the next time the CMP attempts to force monarchy. Last I remember, the Coalition threatened to dissolve itself when certain elements within it considered accepting the Monarchist's offer of Constitutional Monarchy in exchange for their support for your Prime Minister pick.

[Ainin]

Segregation was also presented as a "compromise" between integration and flat-out denial of service.

Those quotes were into response to an amendment that would have singled out sex reassignment surgery for sub-par treatment, despite the fact that it easily meets the criteria of "medical necessity" as defined by the healthcare act -- the sole reasoning for this being to save millions in a country that generates trillions.

The healthcare bill ITSELF was a compromise, as it differed on several critical points from what Chestaan originally wrote to win support from the right. We are more than willing to compromise for the greater good, but don't expect us to sacrifice positions and values as central as our opposition to discrimination.

There are two opposing views, with two different stances. Compromise is to go to the middle.

The middle ground isn't always right.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

We shall go collect more evidense and bring it before you. I am not accusing you specifically of it. I am just saying that the one in charge of the left has shown she is unwilling to compromise, and since she is leading you...

That's still a Texas Sharpshooter, until the aforementioned evidence can be illustrate to be from "most of the left".

I remember very well I said "Some sectors of the left" Not the majority. I see you are using the same tactics that you are accusing us of supposedly using.

[Rumostan]

There are two opposing views, with two different stances. Compromise is to go to the middle.

I'll remember that the next time the CMP attempts to force monarchy. Last I remember, the Coalition threatened to dissolve itself when certain elements within it considered accepting the Monarchist's offer of Constitutional Monarchy in exchange for their support for your Prime Minister pick.

Oh yes, always blame the CMP for everything.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

There are two opposing views, with two different stances. Compromise is to go to the middle.

Actually, it's where two sides both give up part of their demands, not to go to some arbitrary "middle."

Excuse me for wording it wrong. But, you said it yourself: "Actually, it's where two sides both give up part of their demands" Did we see this from Yanalia? Nope, don't think so

[Wolfmanne]

What date is the Presidential election?

I will ask again.

[Ainin]

What date is the Presidential election?

I will ask again.

13 July 2013.

[The Grand Republic of Hannover]

Actually, it's where two sides both give up part of their demands, not to go to some arbitrary "middle."

Excuse me for wording it wrong. But, you said it yourself: "Actually, it's where two sides both give up part of their demands" Did we see this from Yanalia? Nope, don't think so

Clear proof in page 370 of the Senate Chamber

[Regnum Dominae]