NSG Senate Lobby [NSG Senate]

[Great Nepal]

Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit,
fur das Aurentine Vaterland,
Danach lasst uns alle streben,
Bruderlich mit herz und hand,
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit,
Sind des Gluckes unterpfand,
Bluhe im Glanze, dieses Gluckes,
Bluhe, Auretine Vaterland!

It is not in English... which would make no sense what so ever.

[Unicario]

Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit,
fur das Aurentine Vaterland,
Danach lasst uns alle streben,
Bruderlich mit herz und hand,
Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit,
Sind des Gluckes unterpfand,
Bluhe im Glanze, dieses Gluckes,
Bluhe, Auretine Vaterland!

It is not in English... which would make no sense what so ever.

English version:

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine Fatherland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine fatherland! :|

[Aeken]

It is not in English... which would make no sense what so ever.

English version:

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine Fatherland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine fatherland! :|

I like it.

[Great Nepal]

English version:

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine Fatherland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine fatherland! :|

Change fatherland to homeland (not big issue) and I like English version.

[Ziegenhain]

I'm backing the German version. Why? Because German is cooler.

[Maklohi Vai]

On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed that we're accumulating legislation at a much faster rate than we're voting on it? We currently have a queue of 15 bills, and with a 2 day voting period, it would take a month to vote on everything currently in queue. Does anyone have suggestions for solutions?

A few ideas:
1. Create a second chamber solely for voting. All debate and one round of voting occurs in the current chamber.
2. Vote on two bills at once in the current chamber.
3. Decrease the voting span from 2 days.

[Unicario]

English version:

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine Fatherland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine fatherland! :|

Change fatherland to homeland (not big issue) and I like English version.

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine homeland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine homeland! :|

[Aeken]

On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed that we're accumulating legislation at a much faster rate than we're voting on it? We currently have a queue of 15 bills, and with a 2 day voting period, it would take a month to vote on everything currently in queue. Does anyone have suggestions for solutions?

A few ideas:
1. Create a second chamber solely for voting. All debate and one round of voting occurs in the current chamber.
2. Vote on two bills at once in the current chamber.
3. Decrease the voting span from 2 days.

1 and 3 should be implemented.

[Great Nepal]

On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed that we're accumulating legislation at a much faster rate than we're voting on it? We currently have a queue of 15 bills, and with a 2 day voting period, it would take a month to vote on everything currently in queue. Does anyone have suggestions for solutions?

A few ideas:
1. Create a second chamber solely for voting. All debate and one round of voting occurs in the current chamber.
2. Vote on two bills at once in the current chamber.
3. Decrease the voting span from 2 days.

4. Pass emergency enabling legislation allowing senate to vote on all bills simultaneously until further notice. When volume of bill reduces, we suspend this enabling legislation.

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine homeland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine homeland! :|

Aye, aye!

[Great Nepal]

On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed that we're accumulating legislation at a much faster rate than we're voting on it? We currently have a queue of 15 bills, and with a 2 day voting period, it would take a month to vote on everything currently in queue. Does anyone have suggestions for solutions?

A few ideas:
1. Create a second chamber solely for voting. All debate and one round of voting occurs in the current chamber.
2. Vote on two bills at once in the current chamber.
3. Decrease the voting span from 2 days.

1 and 3 should be implemented.

1 would make no IC sense what so ever and 3 would enable a party to pass legislation when their members are online.

[Aeken]

On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed that we're accumulating legislation at a much faster rate than we're voting on it? We currently have a queue of 15 bills, and with a 2 day voting period, it would take a month to vote on everything currently in queue. Does anyone have suggestions for solutions?

A few ideas:
1. Create a second chamber solely for voting. All debate and one round of voting occurs in the current chamber.
2. Vote on two bills at once in the current chamber.
3. Decrease the voting span from 2 days.

4. Pass emergency enabling legislation allowing senate to vote on all bills simultaneously until further notice. When volume of bill reduces, we suspend this enabling legislation.

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
for the Aurentine homeland,
For this, let us all strive,
for brotherhood with heart and hand!

Unity, Justice and Freedom,
Are the pledge of fortune,
|: That flourish in this blessing,
Flourish, Aurentine homeland! :|

Aye, aye!

Yes to 4 as well.

[The Republic of Lanos]

#4 would result in the restrictive and destructive gun bill passing. Against.

[Aeken]

#4 would result in the restrictive and destructive gun bill passing. Against.

4 about to be recalled, so I think it's fine now.

[Ainin]

#4 would result in the restrictive and destructive gun bill passing. Against.

We could do this:

Code: Select all

[b]Do you support...[/b]
The yadda yadda act? [ ] Yes | [ ] No
The blah blah blah act? [ ] Yes | [ ] No
The so-and-so act? [ ] Yes | [ ] No

So we save time.

[Great Nepal]

#4 would result in the restrictive and destructive gun bill passing. Against.

No. You would be able to vote against it. For example, voting would go like this:-
1. Business and Accountability Act: Yes
2. National Retirement and Pensions Act: No
3. National Security Act: Yes
4. Senate Limitation Act: Yes
5. Limiting Legislation Act: Yes
6. The Civil Treatment Act: No
7. Electricity Production Act: Yes
8. Transportation Ministry Provision Act: Yes
9. Agricultural Rights Act: Yes
10. Modified Healthcare Act: No
11. National Census Bureau Act: Yes
12. Sexual Industry Regulation Act: Yes
13. National Judiciary Act: Yes
14. National Extraterrestrial Act: Yes
15. National Firearms Act: Yes

[Aeken]

#4 would result in the restrictive and destructive gun bill passing. Against.

We could do this:

Code: Select all

[b]Do you support...[/b]
The yadda yadda act? [ ] Yes | [ ] No
The blah blah blah act? [ ] Yes | [ ] No
The so-and-so act? [ ] Yes | [ ] No

So we save time.

#4 would result in the restrictive and destructive gun bill passing. Against.

No. You would be able to vote against it. For example, voting would go like this:-
1. Business and Accountability Act: Yes
2. National Retirement and Pensions Act: No
3. National Security Act: Yes
4. Senate Limitation Act: Yes
5. Limiting Legislation Act: Yes
6. The Civil Treatment Act: No
7. Electricity Production Act: Yes
8. Transportation Ministry Provision Act: Yes
9. Agricultural Rights Act: Yes
10. Modified Healthcare Act: No
11. National Census Bureau Act: Yes
12. Sexual Industry Regulation Act: Yes
13. National Judiciary Act: Yes
14. National Extraterrestrial Act: Yes
15. National Firearms Act: Yes

Exactly what I was thinking. Should the Admins do an executive decision?

[New Freedomstan]

#4 would result in the restrictive and destructive gun bill passing. Against.

No. You would be able to vote against it. For example, voting would go like this:-
1. Business and Accountability Act: Yes
2. National Retirement and Pensions Act: No
3. National Security Act: Yes
4. Senate Limitation Act: Yes
5. Limiting Legislation Act: Yes
6. The Civil Treatment Act: No
7. Electricity Production Act: Yes
8. Transportation Ministry Provision Act: Yes
9. Agricultural Rights Act: Yes
10. Modified Healthcare Act: No
11. National Census Bureau Act: Yes
12. Sexual Industry Regulation Act: Yes
13. National Judiciary Act: Yes
14. National Extraterrestrial Act: Yes
15. National Firearms Act: Yes

Wouldn't that completely skip the debate aspect of the legislature?

[Great Nepal]

We could do this:

Code: Select all

[b]Do you support...[/b]
The yadda yadda act? [ ] Yes | [ ] No
The blah blah blah act? [ ] Yes | [ ] No
The so-and-so act? [ ] Yes | [ ] No

So we save time.

No. You would be able to vote against it. For example, voting would go like this:-
1. Business and Accountability Act: Yes
2. National Retirement and Pensions Act: No
3. National Security Act: Yes
4. Senate Limitation Act: Yes
5. Limiting Legislation Act: Yes
6. The Civil Treatment Act: No
7. Electricity Production Act: Yes
8. Transportation Ministry Provision Act: Yes
9. Agricultural Rights Act: Yes
10. Modified Healthcare Act: No
11. National Census Bureau Act: Yes
12. Sexual Industry Regulation Act: Yes
13. National Judiciary Act: Yes
14. National Extraterrestrial Act: Yes
15. National Firearms Act: Yes

Exactly what I was thinking. Should the Admins do an executive decision?

I think we will need to put in an emergency bill through senate, overriding normal queue through privileged motion. Just to make it IC.

[The Republic of Lanos]

Guys, if we pass the gun bill as it is, we are facing a potential war over disarmament of the paramilitaries and the mass violations of the rights of citizens being forced to have their homes forcibly searched to confiscate guns. That is something I do not wish to see, particularly the latter.

[Maklohi Vai]

No. You would be able to vote against it. For example, voting would go like this:-
1. Business and Accountability Act: Yes
2. National Retirement and Pensions Act: No
3. National Security Act: Yes
4. Senate Limitation Act: Yes
5. Limiting Legislation Act: Yes
6. The Civil Treatment Act: No
7. Electricity Production Act: Yes
8. Transportation Ministry Provision Act: Yes
9. Agricultural Rights Act: Yes
10. Modified Healthcare Act: No
11. National Census Bureau Act: Yes
12. Sexual Industry Regulation Act: Yes
13. National Judiciary Act: Yes
14. National Extraterrestrial Act: Yes
15. National Firearms Act: Yes

Wouldn't that completely skip the debate aspect of the legislature?

No, there would be debate ahead of time.

[Great Nepal]

No. You would be able to vote against it. For example, voting would go like this:-
1. Business and Accountability Act: Yes
2. National Retirement and Pensions Act: No
3. National Security Act: Yes
4. Senate Limitation Act: Yes
5. Limiting Legislation Act: Yes
6. The Civil Treatment Act: No
7. Electricity Production Act: Yes
8. Transportation Ministry Provision Act: Yes
9. Agricultural Rights Act: Yes
10. Modified Healthcare Act: No
11. National Census Bureau Act: Yes
12. Sexual Industry Regulation Act: Yes
13. National Judiciary Act: Yes
14. National Extraterrestrial Act: Yes
15. National Firearms Act: Yes

Wouldn't that completely skip the debate aspect of the legislature?

It would, yes but thats general job of coffee shop. And, we need to shift through lot of bills at once, so we can not waste time debating it.

[Yanalia]

Wouldn't that completely skip the debate aspect of the legislature?

No, there would be debate ahead of time.

On every legislation at once?

[Great Nepal]

No, there would be debate ahead of time.

On every legislation at once?

Yea, we do that in coffee shop before being submitted to senate chambers.

[Agritum]

Guys, if we pass the gun bill as it is, we are facing a potential war over disarmament of the paramilitaries and the mass violations of the rights of citizens being forced to have their homes forcibly searched to confiscate guns. That is something I do not wish to see, particularly the latter.

So the Senate gives in to the threats of the paramilitaries and avoid democratical process on the voting of the bill?

[Yanalia]

On every legislation at once?

Yea, we do that in coffee shop before being submitted to senate chambers.

There is a reason we have a time for debate in the Senate.