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Postby Menassa » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:10 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Menassa wrote:A little, everyone knew what the values and punctuation were by Oral Tradition... it wasn't until later people began to forget and the Masorites wrote it down.


Ah. How prevalent is the Oral Tradition still to the Jewish community now? I know there's always emphasis on the reading of the Torah (something I am sure you know better than I do as you're studying the Law). But, is the Oral Tradition still important for today's Jews?

For the Orthodox... the Oral Tradition holds equal weight with the Torah... to us... Two Laws were given at Sinai one written and one Oral.

The First chapter in the Oral Law that deals with Ethics lists the Chain... and everyman must feel as if he is part of a link in the Chain from Moses to themselves.

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Menassa wrote:A little, everyone knew what the values and punctuation were by Oral Tradition... it wasn't until later people began to forget and the Masorites wrote it down.

That's interesting. I've always be fascinated by how the languages of the Afro-Asiatic family treat vowels, they all seem to heavily favor the consonant roots. Even Egyptian/Coptic is like that.

Indeed.

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Menassa wrote:It tends to be.. the jump that is... and you marry someone who has been raised Jewish... you tend to have very different values.


That's what I thought. Plus, I am sure he also had problems with the diet, as in no pork or shellfish. And also with the practicing of Judaism per se. That the marriage lasted 10 months was a feat in and of itself.

The family branch in Spain never met her. These are cousins from one of my maternal grandmother's sisters who went to live in NYC when she was 16. There's a side of my family that doesn't speak Spanish.

I was reading an interesting book about Marrying Jewish... it gave lists of words and told the two partners to write down their feelings about those words... most often... they differed drastically.
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Creative Vikings wrote:I always wondered by those girls had the poofy winter jackets.
A whip just doesn't look good tucked into jeans at a public facility for all ages.

:lol2:

Oh my goodness Vik.

Now you have more reason to express interest to the girls wearing the poofy winter jackets.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:12 pm

Menassa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ah. How prevalent is the Oral Tradition still to the Jewish community now? I know there's always emphasis on the reading of the Torah (something I am sure you know better than I do as you're studying the Law). But, is the Oral Tradition still important for today's Jews?

For the Orthodox... the Oral Tradition holds equal weight with the Torah... to us... Two Laws were given at Sinai one written and one Oral.

The First chapter in the Oral Law that deals with Ethics lists the Chain... and everyman must feel as if he is part of a link in the Chain from Moses to themselves.


So oral tradition is still very important.

I was reading an interesting book about Marrying Jewish... it gave lists of words and told the two partners to write down their feelings about those words... most often... they differed drastically.


I bet they do.
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Postby Gaveo » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:13 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
Gaveo wrote: :lol2:

Oh my goodness Vik.

Now you have more reason to express interest to the girls wearing the poofy winter jackets.

That's it I'm moving to Sweden.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:13 pm

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It's not bad.

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I create plumbing problems.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:13 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:It is my music for my current mood towards the world.

I CREATE HATE!

I create plumbing problems.
I'm an artist, after all.

This is why we don't give you chili.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:14 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Menassa wrote:For the Orthodox... the Oral Tradition holds equal weight with the Torah... to us... Two Laws were given at Sinai one written and one Oral.

The First chapter in the Oral Law that deals with Ethics lists the Chain... and everyman must feel as if he is part of a link in the Chain from Moses to themselves.


So oral tradition is still very important.

Very important.... in fact it gains the most focus in American Learning Institutions than the written Law... however in Israel I believe there is a better balance.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:15 pm

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Creative Vikings wrote:Now you have more reason to express interest to the girls wearing the poofy winter jackets.

That's it I'm moving to Sweden.

If you want to be put in a wheelchair with a perpetually fractured pelvis for the rest of your young swinging days, sure, go ahead.

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Postby Gaveo » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:16 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
Gaveo wrote:That's it I'm moving to Sweden.

If you want to be put in a wheelchair with a perpetually fractured pelvis for the rest of your young swinging days, sure, go ahead.

Still worth it, I guess. :unsure:
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:17 pm

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Postby Creative Vikings » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:18 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Creative Vikings wrote:I create plumbing problems.
I'm an artist, after all.

This is why we don't give you chili.

Italian food tends to get me down there easy anyway.
I've got the bowels of a laxative addict.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:19 pm

Menassa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
So oral tradition is still very important.

Very important.... in fact it gains the most focus in American Learning Institutions than the written Law... however in Israel I believe there is a better balance.


Interesting. Oral tradition are so in decline in many cultures.
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Postby Creative Vikings » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:21 pm

Gaveo wrote:
Creative Vikings wrote:If you want to be put in a wheelchair with a perpetually fractured pelvis for the rest of your young swinging days, sure, go ahead.

Still worth it, I guess. :unsure:

That's why I think SATW's portrayal of Sweden is inaccurate; he isn't in a full lower body cast and he's always frowning.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:21 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Menassa wrote:Very important.... in fact it gains the most focus in American Learning Institutions than the written Law... however in Israel I believe there is a better balance.


Interesting. Oral tradition are so in decline in many cultures.

Well around the 2 and 5 century C.E. the Oral Law had to be written down into a collection of books known as the Talmud.

Perhaps this is a reason it has survived so long.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Gaveo » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:23 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
Gaveo wrote:Still worth it, I guess. :unsure:

That's why I think SATW's portrayal of Sweden is inaccurate; he isn't in a full lower body cast and he's always frowning.

:lol:

Remember Sweden does Sister Finland and Scandia (I think).
Bruh.

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Postby Creative Vikings » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:24 pm

Gaveo wrote:
Creative Vikings wrote:That's why I think SATW's portrayal of Sweden is inaccurate; he isn't in a full lower body cast and he's always frowning.

:lol:

Remember Sweden does Sister Finland and Scandia (I think).

Shit's all kinds of perkele, yo.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:25 pm

Menassa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Interesting. Oral tradition are so in decline in many cultures.

Well around the 2 and 5 century C.E. the Oral Law had to be written down into a collection of books known as the Talmud.

Perhaps this is a reason it has survived so long.


Well, most tales and stories from some oral traditions were ultimately written down. I guess what I was curious about is the oral aspect of it. Are these stories told orally still? Aside from the study of the Talmud (using the written documents), is the Law passed down orally too?
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:26 pm

Menassa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Interesting. Oral tradition are so in decline in many cultures.

Well around the 2 and 5 century C.E. the Oral Law had to be written down into a collection of books known as the Talmud.

Perhaps this is a reason it has survived so long.

I've gotta have a peek at this Talmud, I've seen you mention it a lot .
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Postby Gaveo » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:27 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
Gaveo wrote: :lol:

Remember Sweden does Sister Finland and Scandia (I think).

Shit's all kinds of perkele, yo.

Especially for Finland.
Bruh.

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:28 pm

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Creative Vikings wrote:Shit's all kinds of perkele, yo.

Especially for Finland.

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