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Postby Creative Vikings » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:28 pm

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Creative Vikings wrote:Shit's all kinds of perkele, yo.

Especially for Finland.

Well he gets Sister Sweden, so he's not phased. He's just really sore all the time.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:28 pm

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Menassa wrote:Well around the 2 and 5 century C.E. the Oral Law had to be written down into a collection of books known as the Talmud.

Perhaps this is a reason it has survived so long.

I've gotta have a peek at this Talmud, I've seen you mention it a lot .


http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
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Postby Menassa » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:29 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Menassa wrote:Well around the 2 and 5 century C.E. the Oral Law had to be written down into a collection of books known as the Talmud.

Perhaps this is a reason it has survived so long.

I've gotta have a peek at this Talmud, I've seen you mention it a lot .

It's a great work... I believe the translated set has 73 volumes and goes for a smooth 3k.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Menassa wrote:Well around the 2 and 5 century C.E. the Oral Law had to be written down into a collection of books known as the Talmud.

Perhaps this is a reason it has survived so long.


Well, most tales and stories from some oral traditions were ultimately written down. I guess what I was curious about is the oral aspect of it. Are these stories told orally still? Aside from the study of the Talmud (using the written documents), is the Law passed down orally too?

The Talmud is essentially 80% Law and 20% stories... about 10% of those stories have legal backing to them... it is very hard to grasp the meaning of these Oral Stories from the way they are written... thanks to commentators who heard it from their teachers and have wrote down how it is to be read... we can perhaps more easily understand them.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:32 pm

Menassa wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:I've gotta have a peek at this Talmud, I've seen you mention it a lot .

It's a great work... I believe the translated set has 73 volumes and goes for a smooth 3k.

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Well, most tales and stories from some oral traditions were ultimately written down. I guess what I was curious about is the oral aspect of it. Are these stories told orally still? Aside from the study of the Talmud (using the written documents), is the Law passed down orally too?

The Talmud is essentially 80% Law and 20% stories... about 10% of those stories have legal backing to them... it is very hard to grasp the meaning of these Oral Stories from the way they are written... thanks to commentators who heard it from their teachers and have wrote down how it is to be read... we can perhaps more easily understand them.


Ok, but are these told orally? Do you tell them, by word of mouth, to your children? I know you are formally studying the Law, among other things (I imagine). But do you, the Jewish, tell these stories, these precepts you live by orally?
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Postby Gaveo » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:33 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Gaveo wrote:Especially for Finland.

Dick museum...

Damn it Iceland!
Bruh.

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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:33 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:Dick museum...

Damn it Iceland!

Go to Siberia. *nods* Nothing could possibly go wrong.

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Postby Gaveo » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:33 pm

Creative Vikings wrote:
Gaveo wrote:Especially for Finland.

Well he gets Sister Sweden, so he's not phased. He's just really sore all the time.

But in the end it's worth it. *nod*
Bruh.

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Postby Menassa » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:34 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Menassa wrote:It's a great work... I believe the translated set has 73 volumes and goes for a smooth 3k.


The Talmud is essentially 80% Law and 20% stories... about 10% of those stories have legal backing to them... it is very hard to grasp the meaning of these Oral Stories from the way they are written... thanks to commentators who heard it from their teachers and have wrote down how it is to be read... we can perhaps more easily understand them.


Ok, but are these told orally? Do you tell them, by word of mouth, to your children? I know you are formally studying the Law, among other things (I imagine). But do you, the Jewish, tell these stories, these precepts you live by orally?

Yes... many people.. children especially take it upon themselves to memorize whole volumes of the Mishnah (which precedes the Talmud) so they can tell it over Orally and in a sense keep the tradition alive.
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"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
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Postby Gaveo » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:35 pm

Night guys and gals.
Bruh.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:36 pm

Menassa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Ok, but are these told orally? Do you tell them, by word of mouth, to your children? I know you are formally studying the Law, among other things (I imagine). But do you, the Jewish, tell these stories, these precepts you live by orally?

Yes... many people.. children especially take it upon themselves to memorize whole volumes of the Mishnah (which precedes the Talmud) so they can tell it over Orally and in a sense keep the tradition alive.


See, that's amazing. It is sad that the oral tradition has died in most cultures. I know that some Native Americans still keep it alive, barely, but in most other places, it is a dead tradition. Which saddens me. Without it, I don't think one can have a sense of community. :/
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Postby New Maldorainia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:40 pm

Ugh, my posts per day count is nearly 100 :blink:
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:41 pm

New Maldorainia wrote:Ugh, my posts per day count is nearly 100 :blink:


What we need here is some self-restraint. You and me both, bud. :p
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Postby Algonquin Ascendancy » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:41 pm

Gaveo wrote:Night guys and gals.

Bonne nuit, Gav. :hug:
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Postby New Maldorainia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:42 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
New Maldorainia wrote:Ugh, my posts per day count is nearly 100 :blink:


What we need here is some self-restraint. You and me both, bud. :p


What is this self-restraint you speak of Onee-sama? :p
The Walrus God of NS (arch-nemesis to Big Jim), plus a really strange Jewish cowboy libertarian conservative (Fusionism) believe in Laissez-faire free trade capitalism. Most people call me Mal, Mald, or Maldo.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:43 pm

Gaveo wrote:Night guys and gals.

Guten Nacht, Gav. Auf Wiedersehen.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:43 pm

New Maldorainia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
What we need here is some self-restraint. You and me both, bud. :p


What is this self-restraint you speak of Onee-sama? :p


Fuck if I know. It abandoned me a long time ago. The bitch. :p
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Postby New Maldorainia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:43 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
New Maldorainia wrote:
What is this self-restraint you speak of Onee-sama? :p


Fuck if I know. It abandoned me a long time ago. The bitch. :p


Now I'll never know :p
The Walrus God of NS (arch-nemesis to Big Jim), plus a really strange Jewish cowboy libertarian conservative (Fusionism) believe in Laissez-faire free trade capitalism. Most people call me Mal, Mald, or Maldo.
Nanatsu no Tsuki is my Big Sis Grumpy Cat. She calls me Maru.
Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. ----Rod Serling, from "The Obsolete Man".

Zionist, deal with it.
Economic Left/Right: 8.00
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Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%
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Postby Gidgetisms » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:43 pm

hi mald. hi nana
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Postby New Maldorainia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:44 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Gaveo wrote:Night guys and gals.

Guten Nacht, Gav. Auf Wiedersehen.


Yami you are still around :hug:
The Walrus God of NS (arch-nemesis to Big Jim), plus a really strange Jewish cowboy libertarian conservative (Fusionism) believe in Laissez-faire free trade capitalism. Most people call me Mal, Mald, or Maldo.
Nanatsu no Tsuki is my Big Sis Grumpy Cat. She calls me Maru.
Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. ----Rod Serling, from "The Obsolete Man".

Zionist, deal with it.
Economic Left/Right: 8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.28
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%
http://www.politicaltest.net/test/result/270530
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:45 pm

New Maldorainia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Fuck if I know. It abandoned me a long time ago. The bitch. :p


Now I'll never know :p


You do your own search, damn it. :p

Gidgetisms wrote:hi mald. hi nana


Hey Gidge. :hug:
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:45 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:hi mald. hi nana

Me no get hi? Foin!!

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Postby Gidgetisms » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:45 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
New Maldorainia wrote:
Now I'll never know :p


You do your own search, damn it. :p

Gidgetisms wrote:hi mald. hi nana


Hey Gidge. :hug:

*cling*
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Postby New Maldorainia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:45 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
New Maldorainia wrote:
Now I'll never know :p


You do your own search, damn it. :p

Gidgetisms wrote:hi mald. hi nana


Hey Gidge. :hug:


But I am lazier then you :p
The Walrus God of NS (arch-nemesis to Big Jim), plus a really strange Jewish cowboy libertarian conservative (Fusionism) believe in Laissez-faire free trade capitalism. Most people call me Mal, Mald, or Maldo.
Nanatsu no Tsuki is my Big Sis Grumpy Cat. She calls me Maru.
Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of man, that state is obsolete. ----Rod Serling, from "The Obsolete Man".

Zionist, deal with it.
Economic Left/Right: 8.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.28
Your PERSONAL issues Score is 90%
Your ECONOMIC issues Score is 100%
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:46 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
You do your own search, damn it. :p



Hey Gidge. :hug:

*cling*


:hug:
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Postby Gidgetisms » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:46 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Gidgetisms wrote:hi mald. hi nana

Me no get hi? Foin!!

*tsundere*

hi hun
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