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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:58 pm

I Refuse to support a motion that would disavow members merely for differing Political Belief.

I also Refuse to support a motion that would make such ideology unwelcome ultimately we are what we are that attracts likeminded if more extreme people.

We are the Haven for such people and that is our Role but that we are painted by the same brush from from some one who was once one of us truely speaks volumes.

This Senate is Corrupt, The Senators Hypocritical and Stupid and Our Leadership Weak and indecisive.

This Party is the Bastion of Hope for the collective values of this Nation and it should remain that.

Yes Prussia has gone to far but i wouldn't support a motion to remove him merely for speaking his Belief, i do believe however he should note the diffrence from speaking his own belief and speaking for Party Belief because no one other then our Leader speaks for all of us.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:58 pm

Arcerion wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:>implying the NIFP is anything less than far-right

lol


You will immediately resign from your position in the Party.

On my authority as a senior member and a founder I have been recalled and should you not toe the line you will be thrown out. You are a dangerous person, and a radical, and I'll be damned if you hijack something I once called my own.

I will not support this motion.
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Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
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Arcerion
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Postby Arcerion » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:00 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:I Refuse to support a motion that would disavow members merely for differing Political Belief.

I also Refuse to support a motion that would make such ideology unwelcome ultimately we are what we are that attracts likeminded if more extreme people.

We are the Haven for such people and that is our Role but that we are painted by the same brush from from some one who was once one of us truely speaks volumes.

This Senate is Corrupt, The Senators Hypocritical and Stupid and Our Leadership Weak and indecisive.

This Party is the Bastion of Hope for the collective values of this Nation and it should remain that.

Yes Prussia has gone to far but i wouldn't support a motion to remove him merely for speaking his Belief, i do believe however he should note the diffrence from speaking his own belief and speaking for Party Belief because no one other then our Leader speaks for all of us.


I will not apologize for what I said. He has attempted to bring us to an area that brinks on destruction. This party was once great. Lets show the Senate what a true party is. Fascism is not the way to do it.
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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:03 pm

I too am a founder and have been here since day one and i will say this.

I won't support a motion to remove Prussia merely for speaking Political Belief that may or may not be popular with the Leftists and Liberals of the senate.

Arcerion wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:I Refuse to support a motion that would disavow members merely for differing Political Belief.

I also Refuse to support a motion that would make such ideology unwelcome ultimately we are what we are that attracts likeminded if more extreme people.

We are the Haven for such people and that is our Role but that we are painted by the same brush from from some one who was once one of us truely speaks volumes.

This Senate is Corrupt, The Senators Hypocritical and Stupid and Our Leadership Weak and indecisive.

This Party is the Bastion of Hope for the collective values of this Nation and it should remain that.

Yes Prussia has gone to far but i wouldn't support a motion to remove him merely for speaking his Belief, i do believe however he should note the diffrence from speaking his own belief and speaking for Party Belief because no one other then our Leader speaks for all of us.


I will not apologize for what I said. He has attempted to bring us to an area that brinks on destruction. This party was once great. Lets show the Senate what a true party is. Fascism is not the way to do it.


I already agreed i did not support his attempted motion but i won't remove him for that.

Not for merely feeling a bit stronger and diffrently then we all do.

We all have varients of the same creed here or we wouldn't be here.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:04 pm

Arcerion wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:I Refuse to support a motion that would disavow members merely for differing Political Belief.

I also Refuse to support a motion that would make such ideology unwelcome ultimately we are what we are that attracts likeminded if more extreme people.

We are the Haven for such people and that is our Role but that we are painted by the same brush from from some one who was once one of us truely speaks volumes.

This Senate is Corrupt, The Senators Hypocritical and Stupid and Our Leadership Weak and indecisive.

This Party is the Bastion of Hope for the collective values of this Nation and it should remain that.

Yes Prussia has gone to far but i wouldn't support a motion to remove him merely for speaking his Belief, i do believe however he should note the diffrence from speaking his own belief and speaking for Party Belief because no one other then our Leader speaks for all of us.


I will not apologize for what I said. He has attempted to bring us to an area that brinks on destruction. This party was once great. Lets show the Senate what a true party is. Fascism is not the way to do it.

I'm going to say this once and only once. If Prussia gets kicked, I'm leaving with him. The last thing this party needs is to start kicking and removing people who have been instrumental and loyal to it's cause based on ideological grounds. This party is a gathering place for all members of the right wing, that means everyone. Nowhere was it ever stated that people who identify as fascists should not be allowed to identify with us. We serve as a bastion for all, not just for those we like.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Arcerion
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Postby Arcerion » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:05 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:I too am a founder and have been here since day one and i will say this.

I won't support a motion to remove Prussia merely for speaking Political Belief that may or may not be popular with the Leftists and Liberals of the senate.

Arcerion wrote:
I will not apologize for what I said. He has attempted to bring us to an area that brinks on destruction. This party was once great. Lets show the Senate what a true party is. Fascism is not the way to do it.


I already agreed i did not support his attempted motion but i won't remove him for that.

Not for merely feeling a bit stronger and diffrently then we all do.

We all have varients of the same creed here or we wouldn't be here.


I do not care about the Liberals opinion on our Party. I am more worried about our members within it.

Ze, you and I have been here since the beginning. Its time to take our Party back, do you not agree?
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:08 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:We aren't changing what we already have, I should clarify, but adding other stuff in. Such as:

-Against spying on Auretine citizens
-Support a strong but limited government


Limiting the State is Weakening the State though.

True, however, there are some area's the government doesn't need to be in. We can work on figuring those out together.

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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:10 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:I Refuse to support a motion that would disavow members merely for differing Political Belief.

I also Refuse to support a motion that would make such ideology unwelcome ultimately we are what we are that attracts likeminded if more extreme people.

We are the Haven for such people and that is our Role but that we are painted by the same brush from from some one who was once one of us truely speaks volumes.

This Senate is Corrupt, The Senators Hypocritical and Stupid and Our Leadership Weak and indecisive.

This Party is the Bastion of Hope for the collective values of this Nation and it should remain that.

Yes Prussia has gone to far but i wouldn't support a motion to remove him merely for speaking his Belief, i do believe however he should note the diffrence from speaking his own belief and speaking for Party Belief because no one other then our Leader speaks for all of us.

He does weaken the party when he goes out and makes blanket statements about the party. That must be addressed.

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
Sadly Proven Right in 2016
Final text here.

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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:11 pm

Arcerion wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:I too am a founder and have been here since day one and i will say this.

I won't support a motion to remove Prussia merely for speaking Political Belief that may or may not be popular with the Leftists and Liberals of the senate.



I already agreed i did not support his attempted motion but i won't remove him for that.

Not for merely feeling a bit stronger and diffrently then we all do.

We all have varients of the same creed here or we wouldn't be here.


I do not care about the Liberals opinion on our Party. I am more worried about our members within it.

Ze, you and I have been here since the beginning. Its time to take our Party back, do you not agree?


We have already lost five members in two Days to this crap.

You are proposing we lose more; We need to Dial back and take a Breath.

The Party will Endure our cause is just and true and we will endure.

I agree the Party needs a minor reform to Platform and that people need to realize that Ultimately if it doesn't come from the Chairman there it is no official statement of Platform; Our Membership is Diverse in Belief and if we want to grow and expand we need to accept that some of us will feel a bit stronger then others.

Diffrent opinions is what makes Politics Politics, We aren't the Yes Men Liberals or the Moronic and Inane Anarchists, We are Nationalists, Facists, National Socialists, Totalitarians, Imperialists, Autocrats and more.

We aren't anything more then just a group of people who are brought together via similarities like all Political Ideologies.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:12 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:I Refuse to support a motion that would disavow members merely for differing Political Belief.

I also Refuse to support a motion that would make such ideology unwelcome ultimately we are what we are that attracts likeminded if more extreme people.

We are the Haven for such people and that is our Role but that we are painted by the same brush from from some one who was once one of us truely speaks volumes.

This Senate is Corrupt, The Senators Hypocritical and Stupid and Our Leadership Weak and indecisive.

This Party is the Bastion of Hope for the collective values of this Nation and it should remain that.

Yes Prussia has gone to far but i wouldn't support a motion to remove him merely for speaking his Belief, i do believe however he should note the diffrence from speaking his own belief and speaking for Party Belief because no one other then our Leader speaks for all of us.

He does weaken the party when he goes out and makes blanket statements about the party. That must be addressed.

They can be addressed in a manner that is more appropriate than kicking him out. If we start kicking people solely based on political beliefs, that's when I leave.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:12 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Arcerion wrote:
I do not care about the Liberals opinion on our Party. I am more worried about our members within it.

Ze, you and I have been here since the beginning. Its time to take our Party back, do you not agree?


We have already lost five members in two Days to this crap.

You are proposing we lose more; We need to Dial back and take a Breath.

The Party will Endure our cause is just and true and we will endure.

I agree the Party needs a minor reform to Platform and that people need to realize that Ultimately if it doesn't come from the Chairman there it is no official statement of Platform; Our Membership is Diverse in Belief and if we want to grow and expand we need to accept that some of us will feel a bit stronger then others.

Diffrent opinions is what makes Politics Politics, We aren't the Yes Men Liberals or the Moronic and Inane Anarchists, We are Nationalists, Facists, National Socialists, Totalitarians, Imperialists, Autocrats and more.

We aren't anything more then just a group of people who are brought together via similarities like all Political Ideologies.

I propose we make it clear that only the Chairman speaks for the whole party.

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
Sadly Proven Right in 2016
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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:13 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:He does weaken the party when he goes out and makes blanket statements about the party. That must be addressed.

They can be addressed in a manner that is more appropriate than kicking him out. If we start kicking people solely based on political beliefs, that's when I leave.

Removing him from the Party Cabinet?

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I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:14 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
We have already lost five members in two Days to this crap.

You are proposing we lose more; We need to Dial back and take a Breath.

The Party will Endure our cause is just and true and we will endure.

I agree the Party needs a minor reform to Platform and that people need to realize that Ultimately if it doesn't come from the Chairman there it is no official statement of Platform; Our Membership is Diverse in Belief and if we want to grow and expand we need to accept that some of us will feel a bit stronger then others.

Diffrent opinions is what makes Politics Politics, We aren't the Yes Men Liberals or the Moronic and Inane Anarchists, We are Nationalists, Facists, National Socialists, Totalitarians, Imperialists, Autocrats and more.

We aren't anything more then just a group of people who are brought together via similarities like all Political Ideologies.

I propose we make it clear that only the Chairman speaks for the whole party.

This I can agree with.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
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Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:15 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:They can be addressed in a manner that is more appropriate than kicking him out. If we start kicking people solely based on political beliefs, that's when I leave.

Removing him from the Party Cabinet?

He is secretary correct? I can agree with a demotion based on the fact that part of the secretary's job is PR.... which for us at the moment is downright abominable.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:20 pm

Very well i suppose i can agree with a Demotion.

We would need a Goddamn Sec again though x.x this is the third time we need one.
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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:21 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Removing him from the Party Cabinet?

He is secretary correct? I can agree with a demotion based on the fact that part of the secretary's job is PR.... which for us at the moment is downright abominable.

So, who calls in the motion?

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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:25 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:He is secretary correct? I can agree with a demotion based on the fact that part of the secretary's job is PR.... which for us at the moment is downright abominable.

So, who calls in the motion?

I guess I'll do it since no one else seems to want to.

I motion that Prussia be demoted from his position as secretary.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:29 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:So, who calls in the motion?

I guess I'll do it since no one else seems to want to.

I motion that Prussia be demoted from his position as secretary.


Seconded.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:34 pm

Don't bother. I resign my position and membership in the Party. I won't stay where I'm not wanted.

G'bye, fuckers.
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Postby Hathradic States » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:37 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Don't bother. I resign my position and membership in the Party. I won't stay where I'm not wanted.

G'bye, fuckers.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:39 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Don't bother. I resign my position and membership in the Party. I won't stay where I'm not wanted.

G'bye, fuckers.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

*gets hit*

fuck
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:41 pm

Well so much for that.
*Takes a sledgehammer to a watermelon*
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Yankee Empire
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Postby Yankee Empire » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:11 am

Hmm,

The Zeonic States wrote:And Three becomes five.

:/

Losing active members is hurting the Party immensely.

:rofl: They weren't active so who cares? Not me

Hathradic States wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
What Changes?

Things to distance us more from the claims of fascism. If we are to survive, we must reform, and become stronger.


No that is a sign of weakness not strength saying, "ohnowerenotfascists" to a bunch of people who already claim we are isn't strength.

But I kind of like the strife an purging going on here, it's making people interested again.

The Zeonic States wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:We aren't changing what we already have, I should clarify, but adding other stuff in. Such as:

-Against spying on Auretine citizens
-Support a strong but limited government


Limiting the State is Weakening the State though.


This.
Arcerion wrote:
Members of this fine Party!

Heed my words! We are not Nazis, Fascists, or the extreme right! We are nationalists! The men and women that fight for a unified country! We have failed however. Our fine party grew, and the decayed. And where there is decay, there is disease. This disease has come, and it has spread. That is why we cast out those that seek to change us to the right! We are the champions of the conservatives! The heroes of the businessmen! And the liberators of the hard working!

I expect every member to come back and pledge their support. Out core values of have fallen. We are nationalists, businessmen, conservatives, passionate humanists, and members of the Nationalist Imperialist-Freedom Party! So hear me now! Those that seek to make us facist will be cast out if they do not renounce their ways !hey will be shunned from the party, cast from our ranks and disavowed as people we once called friends!

The time has come! We shall reclaim our place in the Senate! We shall reclaim our party! We shall reclaim what is rightfully ours!


:lol: No offense but screw you, how can you claim one persons admittance of what the ideological positions of the party are, to be wrong and then do the same thing yourself as to appeal to what? Moderates who are in other parties?
After you yourself left the party because of a revelation (not change) of thought?
:roll:
Arcerion wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:>implying the NIFP is anything less than far-right

lol


You will immediately resign from your position in the Party.

On my authority as a senior member and a founder I have been recalled and should you not toe the line you will be thrown out. You are a dangerous person, and a radical, and I'll be damned if you hijack something I once called my own.

And then abadoned...
The Zeonic States wrote:I Refuse to support a motion that would disavow members merely for differing Political Belief.
I also Refuse to support a motion that would make such ideology unwelcome ultimately we are what we are that attracts likeminded if more extreme people.

We are the Haven for such people and that is our Role but that we are painted by the same brush from from some one who was once one of us truely speaks volumes.

This Senate is Corrupt, The Senators Hypocritical and Stupid and Our Leadership Weak and indecisive.

This Party is the Bastion of Hope for the collective values of this Nation and it should remain that.

Yes Prussia has gone to far but i wouldn't support a motion to remove him merely for speaking his Belief, i do believe however he should note the diffrence from speaking his own belief and speaking for Party Belief because no one other then our Leader speaks for all of us.


Makes Fascism sound appealing no?
Arcerion wrote:I will not apologize for what I said. He has attempted to bring us to an area that brinks on destruction. This party was once great. Lets show the Senate what a true party is. Fascism is not the way to do it.

Yes lets denounce what we are or 95% are so that we can make the nice senate and senators of the other parties wuv us awwwl. :roll:
Arcerion wrote:I do not care about the Liberals opinion on our Party. I am more worried about our members within it.

Ze, you and I have been here since the beginning. Its time to take our Party back, do you not agree?


Mmmhmm?

Who are you taking it back from exactly?

The Zeonic States wrote:We have already lost five members in two Days to this crap.

You are proposing we lose more; We need to Dial back and take a Breath.

The Party will Endure our cause is just and true and we will endure.

I agree the Party needs a minor reform to Platform and that people need to realize that Ultimately if it doesn't come from the Chairman there it is no official statement of Platform; Our Membership is Diverse in Belief and if we want to grow and expand we need to accept that some of us will feel a bit stronger then others.

Diffrent opinions is what makes Politics Politics, We aren't the Yes Men Liberals or the Moronic and Inane Anarchists, We are Nationalists, Facists, National Socialists, Totalitarians, Imperialists, Autocrats and more.

We aren't anything more then just a group of people who are brought together via similarities like all Political Ideologies.


Well said, but I don't personalyl care if some member run off like little sissies because I, Prussia-Steinbach and Torsiediell just said what were already aware of.

But as i said before, where as you may see this as a problem I see it as a blessing.
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Postby Hathradic States » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:13 am

Look, Yank, my problem with Pruss was that he went out and made blanket statements for the Party without running it by the Party. I do not object to fascists in the party, but I do object to said fascists calling the rest of the party fascists.

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Postby Yankee Empire » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:25 am

I have sympathies for both sides of this issue.

I've only recently accepted Fascism myself as my idelogy after get over my phobia of the Label.

I don't advocate forcing the label but also i never saw where he did that in a real capacity (other than the header in the attempted new headquarters).

It's not like we called ourselves "The Aurentine Fascist Party".

I'm annoyed by how Prussia handled it and by Ascrerions gall.

But the fact that a few people who barely participate left because of it doesn't strike me as being a bad thing in the least, quite the contrary in fact.

Screw them, if their just going to up and leave I hope the communists have an opening for them or maybe the "Totally Rad Party".

And the Fact that the other parties took note (i guess? I have't heard much) of it is just amusing to me.
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