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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:19 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:I want our Paras back.

Our... business could provide you with security as well, if this doesn't happen. You'll no longer have to hire foreign mercs.

We already have security from Taltos Defense Corps. Legal, licensed, etc.

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Postby Yankee Empire » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:19 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:Ugh it's so Capitalist plutocratic.

I want Brave loyal Nationalist Soldiers.

But what do you mean?

You really can't figure it out?

Hmm?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:20 pm

Yankee Empire wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:You really can't figure it out?

Hmm?

Okay then.

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Postby Yankee Empire » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:24 pm

We need to change our Symbol as well.
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Postby Eliasonia » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:24 pm

Yankee Empire wrote:We need to change our Symbol as well.

That we do. Rather badly imo.
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Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
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Postby The Zeonic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:26 pm

As the first and only President of the C.S.A once said the Great Jefferson Davis himself.

"To rebuild a Nation one may need to step past it to and look long to the future."

Do we like the direction of this country?

If not can we fix it through the senate?

if not then how do progress?
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:27 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:As the first and only President of the C.S.A once said the Great Jefferson Davis himself.

"To rebuild a Nation one may need to step past it to and look long to the future."

Do we like the direction of this country?

If not can we fix it through the senate?

if not then how do progress?

No, we don't.

Probably not.

The Roman way, of course.

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
Sadly Proven Right in 2016
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:31 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:As the first and only President of the C.S.A once said the Great Jefferson Davis himself.

"To rebuild a Nation one may need to step past it to and look long to the future."

Do we like the direction of this country?

If not can we fix it through the senate?

if not then how do progress?

No, we don't.

Probably not.

The Roman way, of course.

Which Roman way? The pussy footed late Roman way? Or the early Roman badass take no prisoners way? These distinctions matter :p
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:34 pm

On another more annoying note, the new Progress Coalition seems to be progressing much more cohesively and amicably than it's previous incarnation.
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╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:37 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:No, we don't.

Probably not.

The Roman way, of course.

Which Roman way? The pussy footed late Roman way? Or the early Roman badass take no prisoners way? These distinctions matter :p

Caesar's way. ;)

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:37 pm

Eliasonia wrote:On another more annoying note, the new Progress Coalition seems to be progressing much more cohesively and amicably than it's previous incarnation.

Well fuck.

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I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:38 pm

We need allies to affect change but unfornately the only allies we seem to have seem to moving away from us the Monarchists are content to be a former territory of the Crown and the Communists either version of them keeping push towards collapse of this Nation.

Ultimately we are a Minority and should expect that our views, beliefs and platforms to be trampled upon by those who hold numeric advantage.

I would suggest we stage mass protest rallies and peaceful demostrations of frustration with the way the government is going but that likely would end up costing us the right to assemble and might lead to more problems down the line, the main issue however is that unforunately i don't see things getting better in the Senate the longer the body exists the more damage it will do.

We don't have strong leadership and our First President was a joke who was given a position merely due to Political ties after he botched the job.
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:40 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:We need allies to affect change but unfornately the only allies we seem to have seem to moving away from us the Monarchists are content to be a former territory of the Crown and the Communists either version of them keeping push towards collapse of this Nation.

Ultimately we are a Minority and should expect that our views, beliefs and platforms to be trampled upon by those who hold numeric advantage.

I would suggest we stage mass protest rallies and peaceful demostrations of frustration with the way the government is going but that likely would end up costing us the right to assemble and might lead to more problems down the line, the main issue however is that unforunately i don't see things getting better in the Senate the longer the body exists the more damage it will do.

We don't have strong leadership and our First President was a joke who was given a position merely due to Political ties after he botched the job.

We've been trying peace. They still trample over us. I don't want war, but I don't want the few to run us into the ground, like they seem to be fond of doing.

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
Sadly Proven Right in 2016
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Postby Eliasonia » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:41 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:We need allies to affect change but unfornately the only allies we seem to have seem to moving away from us the Monarchists are content to be a former territory of the Crown and the Communists either version of them keeping push towards collapse of this Nation.

Ultimately we are a Minority and should expect that our views, beliefs and platforms to be trampled upon by those who hold numeric advantage.

I would suggest we stage mass protest rallies and peaceful demostrations of frustration with the way the government is going but that likely would end up costing us the right to assemble and might lead to more problems down the line, the main issue however is that unforunately i don't see things getting better in the Senate the longer the body exists the more damage it will do.

We don't have strong leadership and our First President was a joke who was given a position merely due to Political ties after he botched the job.

I fear no matter what we do, nobody is going to take us seriously or consider our opinion on any matter whatsoever. No matter how peacefully we try to get the message across or how right we are. As has been the way with this senate since day one.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
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Postby The Zeonic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:44 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:We need allies to affect change but unfornately the only allies we seem to have seem to moving away from us the Monarchists are content to be a former territory of the Crown and the Communists either version of them keeping push towards collapse of this Nation.

Ultimately we are a Minority and should expect that our views, beliefs and platforms to be trampled upon by those who hold numeric advantage.

I would suggest we stage mass protest rallies and peaceful demostrations of frustration with the way the government is going but that likely would end up costing us the right to assemble and might lead to more problems down the line, the main issue however is that unforunately i don't see things getting better in the Senate the longer the body exists the more damage it will do.

We don't have strong leadership and our First President was a joke who was given a position merely due to Political ties after he botched the job.

We've been trying peace. They still trample over us. I don't want war, but I don't want the few to run us into the ground, like they seem to be fond of doing.


Don't have the numbers for war although our Military if you wish to call it that isn't even properly assembled yet and lacks so many critical features of an Armed Forces it would be Akin to fighting a Paper Tiger.

But we don't need a civil war this early in the game it likely would only push things further downward and ultimately i doubt it would be acknowledge regardless; Do you recall how the Senate ignored an initial seccession?

Any attempted move in that direction would like be ended the same way; As i said we need allies and in that direction we need more members, we need a larger party base if we are to work within the system we actually need to be the largest party not merely the one with the most members on the roster.
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:45 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:We've been trying peace. They still trample over us. I don't want war, but I don't want the few to run us into the ground, like they seem to be fond of doing.


Don't have the numbers for war although our Military if you wish to call it that isn't even properly assembled yet and lacks so many critical features of an Armed Forces it would be Akin to fighting a Paper Tiger.

But we don't need a civil war this early in the game it likely would only push things further downward and ultimately i doubt it would be acknowledge regardless; Do you recall how the Senate ignored an initial seccession?

Any attempted move in that direction would like be ended the same way; As i said we need allies and in that direction we need more members, we need a larger party base if we are to work within the system we actually need to be the largest party not merely the one with the most members on the roster.

That's a nice idea and all, but how can we get a bigger support base when we already have all forty of NSG's conservatives?

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:47 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
Don't have the numbers for war although our Military if you wish to call it that isn't even properly assembled yet and lacks so many critical features of an Armed Forces it would be Akin to fighting a Paper Tiger.

But we don't need a civil war this early in the game it likely would only push things further downward and ultimately i doubt it would be acknowledge regardless; Do you recall how the Senate ignored an initial seccession?

Any attempted move in that direction would like be ended the same way; As i said we need allies and in that direction we need more members, we need a larger party base if we are to work within the system we actually need to be the largest party not merely the one with the most members on the roster.

That's a nice idea and all, but how can we get a bigger support base when we already have all forty of NSG's conservatives?


I don't know chairman believe me i have been thinking about it; Why don't you think i haven't left yet despite my initial and continued frustration?

Moving on to other Business.

What do people within the Party think our new sigil should be?

I didn't mind the old one but if people have ideas let's here them.
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:48 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:That's a nice idea and all, but how can we get a bigger support base when we already have all forty of NSG's conservatives?


I don't know chairman believe me i have been thinking about it; Why don't you think i haven't left yet despite my initial and continued frustration?

Moving on to other Business.

What do people within the Party think our new sigil should be?

I didn't mind the old one but if people have ideas let's here them.

Something with a wolf or other predatory mammal.

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
Sadly Proven Right in 2016
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Postby Eliasonia » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:50 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
Don't have the numbers for war although our Military if you wish to call it that isn't even properly assembled yet and lacks so many critical features of an Armed Forces it would be Akin to fighting a Paper Tiger.

But we don't need a civil war this early in the game it likely would only push things further downward and ultimately i doubt it would be acknowledge regardless; Do you recall how the Senate ignored an initial seccession?

Any attempted move in that direction would like be ended the same way; As i said we need allies and in that direction we need more members, we need a larger party base if we are to work within the system we actually need to be the largest party not merely the one with the most members on the roster.

That's a nice idea and all, but how can we get a bigger support base when we already have all forty of NSG's conservatives?

I think our member count is as high as it's going to get. I also believe that our ability to work within the system is fleeting faster and faster each day.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:51 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
I don't know chairman believe me i have been thinking about it; Why don't you think i haven't left yet despite my initial and continued frustration?

Moving on to other Business.

What do people within the Party think our new sigil should be?

I didn't mind the old one but if people have ideas let's here them.

Something with a wolf or other predatory mammal.

I'm partial to a bear personally, or possibly a hawk/ eagle if we want a bird of prey vibe.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
Political Test

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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:52 pm

The Bull?

It's already the sigil of one Legion.
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:53 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Something with a wolf or other predatory mammal.

I'm partial to a bear personally, or possibly a hawk/ eagle if we want a bird of prey vibe.

Bear is okay, but I don't wanna look Russian, and with the birds of prey...it's just so overdone.

Wolverine? *cookie to whomever gets reference*

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
Sadly Proven Right in 2016
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Postby The Zeonic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:54 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:I'm partial to a bear personally, or possibly a hawk/ eagle if we want a bird of prey vibe.

Bear is okay, but I don't wanna look Russian, and with the birds of prey...it's just so overdone.

Wolverine? *cookie to whomever gets reference*


So help me chairman if this is a refrence to red dawn...
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Postby Hathradic States » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:56 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Bear is okay, but I don't wanna look Russian, and with the birds of prey...it's just so overdone.

Wolverine? *cookie to whomever gets reference*


So help me chairman if this is a refrence to red dawn...

Don't judge me, I watched it with my buddy last night. Shipping off to boot Sunday.

Fine, no Wolverines...bull? No, too Fallout, not meat eating enough.

Jaguar?

Liberals: Honestly I was wrong bout em.
I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Postby Torsiedelle » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:56 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:Bear is okay, but I don't wanna look Russian, and with the birds of prey...it's just so overdone.

Wolverine? *cookie to whomever gets reference*


So help me chairman if this is a refrence to red dawn...



WOLVERINES!!!!!!

Anyway, I can't think of a good idea right now...or ever, really...

How many members of the NIFP could be considered Leftist, anyway? We could get some members who identify well with the leftists, who would work with them.
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