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Torsiedelle
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Postby Torsiedelle » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:50 pm

So, Wolff apparently called off the vote just now...so...yea. Is that good or bad?
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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:15 pm

So what have i missed?
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Postby Eliasonia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:17 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:So what have i missed?

Well, we allied with the left in order to keep Wolf's coalition out of power and succeeded, there may or may not have been a mafia formed, and Wolf just nominated Hath as PM but called the vote off for reasons I am still not certain of.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:22 pm

I knew the Party would begin to go down the wrong path the moment i left.

The Prime Minister election i wasn't aware of but i am glad to be informed of it; But moving on this joining of our Parties was approved?

and compromising with entities seeking to destroy the State was approved?

Honestly destroying factions that seek to cripple the state is a noble goal but joining with those we are ideologically opposed makes our commitment to our goals come to question.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:40 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:I knew the Party would begin to go down the wrong path the moment i left.

The Prime Minister election i wasn't aware of but i am glad to be informed of it; But moving on this joining of our Parties was approved?

and compromising with entities seeking to destroy the State was approved?

Honestly destroying factions that seek to cripple the state is a noble goal but joining with those we are ideologically opposed makes our commitment to our goals come to question.

We didn't join them per say. We all happened to share the same opinion regarding Wolf's coalition and all voted against the appointment of his party's candidate for PM.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:45 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:I knew the Party would begin to go down the wrong path the moment i left.

The Prime Minister election i wasn't aware of but i am glad to be informed of it; But moving on this joining of our Parties was approved?

and compromising with entities seeking to destroy the State was approved?

Honestly destroying factions that seek to cripple the state is a noble goal but joining with those we are ideologically opposed makes our commitment to our goals come to question.

We didn't join them per say. We all happened to share the same opinion regarding Wolf's coalition and all voted against the appointment of his party's candidate for PM.


I would prefer our Bloc being made up of those of which we can share Ideological connection; In essence we can only use those of which we Party aims are aligned with in the short term; As we have seen both the far and mid left factions while using our Party base to add additional numbers to positions we share have come back and voted against our own interests.

I would suggest the creation of a permenant bloc or Alliance such as we have with the Monarchists.
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Postby Luveria » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:02 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:We didn't join them per say. We all happened to share the same opinion regarding Wolf's coalition and all voted against the appointment of his party's candidate for PM.


I would prefer our Bloc being made up of those of which we can share Ideological connection; In essence we can only use those of which we Party aims are aligned with in the short term; As we have seen both the far and mid left factions while using our Party base to add additional numbers to positions we share have come back and voted against our own interests.

I would suggest the creation of a permenant bloc or Alliance such as we have with the Monarchists.

I am in agreement with this.

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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:30 pm

Yanalia wrote:The vote started. Do we have Hath's promise to not use his PM powers and appoint inactive Senators?

OOC: Sorry, I was a bit busy

And you do.

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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:32 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Yanalia wrote:The vote started. Do we have Hath's promise to not use his PM powers and appoint inactive Senators?

OOC: Sorry, I was a bit busy

And you do.


Vote's been called off, as the President is resigning.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:33 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:OOC: Sorry, I was a bit busy

And you do.


Vote's been called off, as the President is resigning.

Works just as well for me.

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I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:37 pm

So what is the next order of business.
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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:40 pm

Yankee Empire wrote:So what is the next order of business.

President is resigned. Elections might be soon.

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I swear I'm not as terrible as you remember.
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Postby Finium » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:45 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Yankee Empire wrote:So what is the next order of business.

President is resigned. Elections might be soon.

Knows this senate, we'll probably postpone the elections for the next eternity so we can finish bickering
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The Nihilistic view
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:56 pm

Finium wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:President is resigned. Elections might be soon.

Knows this senate, we'll probably postpone the elections for the next eternity so we can finish bickering


only got 2 weeks left right?
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:31 am

Looks like the Progress Coalition will be reforming...
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Postby Democratic Koyro » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:36 am

Eliasonia wrote:Looks like the Progress Coalition will be reforming...


Boo.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:38 am

Democratic Koyro wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:Looks like the Progress Coalition will be reforming...


Boo.

My thoughts exactly. Although it appears the Prog Cons are not going to be invited this time, which makes me wonder how it will be in any way different from the current coalition of center-ish parties. :eyebrow:
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Postby Slazliyka » Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:51 am

Eliasonia wrote:
Democratic Koyro wrote:
Boo.

My thoughts exactly. Although it appears the Prog Cons are not going to be invited this time, which makes me wonder how it will be in any way different from the current coalition of center-ish parties. :eyebrow:

The center coalition contains the NCP, PCs, and various other parties on the right like the RefP, CFE, and LFP (though the last two ate only on the rights far as economics are concerned). The new Progress Coalition will be solely on the left, if it takes off.

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Postby Eliasonia » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:33 am

Slazliyka wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:My thoughts exactly. Although it appears the Prog Cons are not going to be invited this time, which makes me wonder how it will be in any way different from the current coalition of center-ish parties. :eyebrow:

The center coalition contains the NCP, PCs, and various other parties on the right like the RefP, CFE, and LFP (though the last two ate only on the rights far as economics are concerned). The new Progress Coalition will be solely on the left, if it takes off.

So what makes it different from the UWF then? We'll now have 2 left wing coalitions?
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Postby Slazliyka » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:36 am

Eliasonia wrote:
Slazliyka wrote:The center coalition contains the NCP, PCs, and various other parties on the right like the RefP, CFE, and LFP (though the last two ate only on the rights far as economics are concerned). The new Progress Coalition will be solely on the left, if it takes off.

So what makes it different from the UWF then? We'll now have 2 left wing coalitions?

The UWF is strictly Socialist/Communist. The Progress Coalition would include the left in general.

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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:37 am

Eliasonia wrote:
Slazliyka wrote:The center coalition contains the NCP, PCs, and various other parties on the right like the RefP, CFE, and LFP (though the last two ate only on the rights far as economics are concerned). The new Progress Coalition will be solely on the left, if it takes off.

So what makes it different from the UWF then? We'll now have 2 left wing coalitions?


There is no diffrence in membership basis.

Anywho on to Party Business.

I have come up with a Rough Draft of the Party Oath.

._. It is based heavily upon certain other historical Oathes but has been refitted to serve the Party.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:38 am

Slazliyka wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:So what makes it different from the UWF then? We'll now have 2 left wing coalitions?

The UWF is strictly Socialist/Communist. The Progress Coalition would include the left in general.

That just sounds like it would cause problems.

The Zeonic States wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:So what makes it different from the UWF then? We'll now have 2 left wing coalitions?


There is no diffrence in membership basis.

Anywho on to Party Business.

I have come up with a Rough Draft of the Party Oath.

._. It is based heavily upon certain other historical Oathes but has been refitted to serve the Party.


Didn't we have an oath before?
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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The Zeonic States
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:40 am

Eliasonia wrote:
Slazliyka wrote:The UWF is strictly Socialist/Communist. The Progress Coalition would include the left in general.

That just sounds like it would cause problems.

The Zeonic States wrote:
There is no diffrence in membership basis.

Anywho on to Party Business.

I have come up with a Rough Draft of the Party Oath.

._. It is based heavily upon certain other historical Oathes but has been refitted to serve the Party.


Didn't we have an oath before?


Not to my Knowledge.

In fact to my Knowledge there is no oath Period for Civil Servants or the Armed Forces.
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Postby Slazliyka » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:44 am

Eliasonia wrote:
Slazliyka wrote:The UWF is strictly Socialist/Communist. The Progress Coalition would include the left in general.

That just sounds like it would cause problems.

Potentially, but given the makeup of the senate it seems a fairly broad coalition is the only way we can form a government.

Which is why I'm still campaigning for an Executive Council.

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Postby CTALNH » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:34 pm

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