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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:19 pm

We need some sort of offsite chat or something....
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Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
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Prussia-Steinbach
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:20 pm

Eliasonia wrote:We need some sort of offsite chat or something....

IRC channel coming right up.
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Yanalia
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:20 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:The idea is that the extremists on both sides will work together to vote Hath in, at which point he will appoint ministers to represent both sides, and afterward become effectively impotent, correct?

Just trying to work this all out in my head. If this is the plan - assuming the Left will agree - I would fully support it.


I was thinking inactive ministers, preferably independents.
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Yanalia
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:22 pm

I'm motioning to extend the vote so we have more time to reach consensus.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:22 pm

Yanalia wrote:I'm motioning to extend the vote so we have more time to reach consensus.

I don't think it has started yet.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:22 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:The idea is that the extremists on both sides will work together to vote Hath in, at which point he will appoint ministers to represent both sides, and afterward become effectively impotent, correct?

Just trying to work this all out in my head. If this is the plan - assuming the Left will agree - I would fully support it.


I was thinking inactive ministers, preferably independents.

But is this just to fuck with Wolfmanne, or to actually advance our own interests?
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The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:22 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
Yanalia wrote:I'm motioning to extend the vote so we have more time to reach consensus.

I don't think it has started yet.


It just needs five, no?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:23 pm

The NIFP's IRC channel: http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?channe ... .esper.net

Hath, you should add this to the OP. Until I create our new one, which might actually be farther in the future than originally thought.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:25 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:I don't think it has started yet.


It just needs five, no?

10 I think... judging by wolf's post when the "seconds" reached 4.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:25 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
Yanalia wrote:
It just needs five, no?

10 I think... judging by wolf's post when the "seconds" reached 4.


They changed it to 10, right. Forgot.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:26 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Eliasonia wrote:10 I think... judging by wolf's post when the "seconds" reached 4.


They changed it to 10, right. Forgot.

And it has seven, correct?

Should I and others begin seconding the motion? Do we want Hath in?
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The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Yanalia
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:46 pm

The vote started. Do we have Hath's promise to not use his PM powers and appoint inactive Senators?
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Unicario
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Postby Unicario » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:51 pm

The TR are doing a conscious vote.
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:59 pm

Hath's off to a better start than Geil at least.
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Postby Mishmahig » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:02 pm

Yanalia wrote:Hath's off to a better start than Geil at least.


A start, but not a finish.

I notice some libertarians in opposition. Perhaps the NIFP or the USLP can persuade them to abstain or support?

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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:03 pm

Mishmahig wrote:
Yanalia wrote:Hath's off to a better start than Geil at least.


A start, but not a finish.

I notice some libertarians in opposition. Perhaps the NIFP or the USLP can persuade them to abstain or support?

They'd probably be more inclined to listen to the USLP over us, I'll see if I can do anything with Galt's Gulch.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
Political Test

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:06 pm

Eliasonia wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
A start, but not a finish.

I notice some libertarians in opposition. Perhaps the NIFP or the USLP can persuade them to abstain or support?

They'd probably be more inclined to listen to the USLP over us, I'll see if I can do anything with Galt's Gulch.

I've been encouraging my... friends to vote in favour of Hath as PM. I have a friend or to over with the Objectivists as well, I'll see what I can do.
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The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Yanalia
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:18 pm

I think Wolf is just going to remove his nomination at the end of the vote. This is just a way to waste 48 hours. Sad.
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The Nihilistic view
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:19 pm

Yanalia wrote:I think Wolf is just going to remove his nomination at the end of the vote. This is just a way to waste 48 hours. Sad.


We will then launch a motion to impeach him. Make sure he knows this.
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Eliasonia
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Postby Eliasonia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:20 pm

Yanalia wrote:I think Wolf is just going to remove his nomination at the end of the vote. This is just a way to waste 48 hours. Sad.

judging from Nepal's response to Beta over in the Coalition thread, I believe you're right.
╬ The Iron Party ╬
Liberals: Promoting Freedom, unless it's guns, hunting, tobacco, food, what you can drive, how much money you can make, what you can say, and where you can pray
Maineiacs wrote:There once was a man from Belfast
Whose balls were constructed of brass.
In stormy weather
They'd clang together
And lightening shot out of his ass. :D

New East Ireland wrote:
East germanias wrote:no"
*continues to cry*

*Gives a stuffed Hath doll*
Here you go.. When you squeeze its weenier, it talks and shoots fire from it's eyes..

Mushet wrote:
Necro-Paroom wrote:*Leaks pus*

*leaks cum*
:blush: I'm just very excited to be here
Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 0.31
Political Test

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Postby Chetssaland » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:21 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Yanalia wrote:I think Wolf is just going to remove his nomination at the end of the vote. This is just a way to waste 48 hours. Sad.


We will then launch a motion to impeach him. Make sure he knows this.


Is that an impeachable offense? I'm asking because I doubt it, but I don't know.

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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:22 pm

Chetssaland wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
We will then launch a motion to impeach him. Make sure he knows this.


Is that an impeachable offense? I'm asking because I doubt it, but I don't know.


The president can be removed for any reason, as long as 2/3 of the Senate agrees.
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:25 pm

Yanalia wrote:The president can be removed for any reason, as long as 2/3 of the Senate agrees.

Wrong. He can only be removed for official misconduct or disability.

Chetssaland wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
We will then launch a motion to impeach him. Make sure he knows this.


Is that an impeachable offense? I'm asking because I doubt it, but I don't know.

Lets assume it is. Then, you would need to get 252 active and voting for it.

Oh and I seriously doubt this is just fillbuster.
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Yankee Empire
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Postby Yankee Empire » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:54 pm

So what is currently on our agenda?
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The Nihilistic view
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:57 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Yanalia wrote:The president can be removed for any reason, as long as 2/3 of the Senate agrees.

Wrong. He can only be removed for official misconduct or disability.

Chetssaland wrote:
Is that an impeachable offense? I'm asking because I doubt it, but I don't know.

Lets assume it is. Then, you would need to get 252 active and voting for it.

Oh and I seriously doubt this is just fillbuster.


Its not a filibuster but it wont succeed because the law is to silly but it would be my genuine wish.
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