National Imperialist-Freedom Party Headquarters [NSG Senate]

[Gallup]

Can someone explain this whole gun bill thing? I understand it, but someone else might not get the controversy.

[Irredento]

No problem, also on the subject of Julius Evola...

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That is awesome.

By the way, I'm not sure if you knew this already, but "Fascism Viewed from the Right" was finally released in English this year and I think you'll find it interesting if you're a fan of his more well-known works.

It's a fairly detailed criticism of fascism from a radical traditionalist perspective that, while praising its traditional aspects, focuses in particular on how, rather than be a populist proletarian movement, it should have strived to be aristocratic and transcendental.

I highly recommend it.

[Yankee Empire]

No problem, also on the subject of Julius Evola...

image

That is awesome.

By the way, I'm not sure if you knew this already, but "Fascism Viewed from the Right" was finally released in English this year and I think you'll find it interesting if you're a fan of his more well-known works.

It's a fairly detailed criticism of fascism from a radical traditionalist perspective that, while praising its traditional aspects, focuses in particular on how, rather than be a populist proletarian movement, it should have strived to be aristocratic and transcendental.

I highly recommend it.

I may not agree with it but i will certainly try to look into it.

[Unicario]

Can someone explain this whole gun bill thing? I understand it, but someone else might not get the controversy.

The act that Costa and Nepal are backing will outlaw paramilitaries and go after people if they resist the complete and total disarming of the paramilitary factions.

The NIFP, Stalinists and CMP are all against it as they feel it's authoritative society. The liberals have basically stated they are "tyrants by majority" and the NIFP is all in a tizzy over it.

[Othelos]

Lanos and I are going to be advocating a compromise on the gun control bill, it'd be good if you guys could help.

Anything short of throwing this bill out altogether is unacceptable to me.

With that attitude, you're going to end up getting nothing, especially since you guys are in the minority.

[Irredento]

Anything short of throwing this bill out altogether is unacceptable to me.

With that attitude, you're going to end up getting nothing, especially since you guys are in the minority.

What makes you think we're in the minority?

The CMP, NIFP, USLP, Libertarians, Objectivists, CFE and Republicans will almost certainly oppose gun control as will independents, individual conscience voters from other parties, and probably even some people from your own since your Chairman isn't enforcing a whip on the issue.

So, remind me again, how are we in the minority here?

[Zweite Alaje]

Anything short of throwing this bill out altogether is unacceptable to me.

With that attitude, you're going to end up getting nothing, especially since you guys are in the minority.

I agree, we must be pragmatic about this. The left has the majority, but they should take note that trying to force their degenerate policies will face stiff opposition. Likewise, the right is in the minority, we can't outvote the left to pass our own bills. We must all bargain, unfortunately.

[Othelos]

With that attitude, you're going to end up getting nothing, especially since you guys are in the minority.

What makes you think we're in the minority?

The CMP, NIFP, USLP, Libertarians, Objectivists, CFE and Republicans will almost certainly oppose gun control as will independents, individual conscience voters from other parties, and probably even some people from your own since your Chairman isn't enforcing a whip on the issue.

So, remind me again, how are we in the minority here?

I was thinking coalition-wise.

I have to catch up with what's going on, I apologize if I'm a little bit slow.

[Irredento]

With that attitude, you're going to end up getting nothing, especially since you guys are in the minority.

I agree, we must be pragmatic about this. The left has the majority, but they should take note that trying to force their degenerate policies will face stiff opposition. Likewise, the right is in the minority, we can't outvote the left to pass our own bills. We must all bargain, unfortunately.

If you wish to bargain, feel free, but I will personally oppose any attempts at gun control.

That said, while I intend to enforce a three-line whip against the current bill, I wouldn't force my party to vote against a bill restricting the sale to adults who are sane or something along those lines. Restrictions on who they can be sold to wouldn't be something my party would need to oppose, but any attempts to outright ban guns of any sort based on some misguided belief that only policemen are morally just enough to wield them would be opposed by me.

I was thinking coalition-wise.

I have to catch up with what's going on, I apologize if I'm a little bit slow.

Coalitions are all well and good but will only get you so far.

This bill is just far too extreme to get passed as it stands as it would, quite literally, ban even super-soakers.

[Great Terran Republic]

That is awesome.

By the way, I'm not sure if you knew this already, but "Fascism Viewed from the Right" was finally released in English this year and I think you'll find it interesting if you're a fan of his more well-known works.

It's a fairly detailed criticism of fascism from a radical traditionalist perspective that, while praising its traditional aspects, focuses in particular on how, rather than be a populist proletarian movement, it should have strived to be aristocratic and transcendental.

I highly recommend it.

I may not agree with it but i will certainly try to look into it.

I might read it I’m a Paleo-Conservative I’m against the left wing and I’m against Fascism however based off of what I read about the Evola person he is no different to the communist like them
he is an occultist just like the communist who were occultist. Im against occultist

[Irredento]

I may not agree with it but i will certainly try to look into it.

I might read it I’m a Paleo-Conservative I’m against the left wing and I’m against Fascism however based off of what I read about the Evola person he is no different to the communist like them
he is an occultist just like the communist who were occultist. Im against occultist

Did you just call Julius Evola a communist?

[Great Terran Republic]

I might read it I’m a Paleo-Conservative I’m against the left wing and I’m against Fascism however based off of what I read about the Evola person he is no different to the communist like them
he is an occultist just like the communist who were occultist. Im against occultist

Did you just call Julius Evola a communist?

I said he was an occultist and many communist were occultist Im anti-occult

[Irredento]

Did you just call Julius Evola a communist?

I said he was an occultist and many communist were occultist Im anti-occult

I would suggest that you read more.

Paleo-conservatives are to the far-left of Evola. Far far far left.

This is my favourite of Evola's most well known works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_the_Tiger

You should of course read these also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_Aga ... dern_World
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Among_the_Ruins

"Ride the Tiger" is my favourite of the three as it is a sort of manual for aristocrats of the soul living in this modern world of degeneracy and so it resonates with me in a big way.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I said he was an occultist and many communist were occultist Im anti-occult

I would suggest that you read more.

Paleo-conservatives are to the far-left of Evola. Far far far left.

This is my favourite of Evola's most well known works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_the_Tiger

You should of course read these also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_Aga ... dern_World
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_Among_the_Ruins

"Ride the Tiger" is my favourite of the three as it is a sort of manual for aristocrats of the soul living in this modern world of degeneracy and so it resonates with me in a big way.

Hmm. I might buy that book, "Ride the Tiger." It sounds quite interesting.

[Great Terran Republic]

I might read him he looks interesting but Evola champions a powerful state unified under a rigid code and caste system

I Champion Limited Government and Free Enterprise so people can climb up the social latter

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I might read him he looks interesting but Evola champions a powerful state unified under a rigid code and caste system

I Champion Limited Government and Free Enterprise so people can climb up the social latter

[Great Terran Republic]

Whats funny?
I guess Im the Ron Paul of this political party

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Whats funny?
I guess Im the Ron Paul of this political party

Definitely. Not exactly the party someone would typically join to support limited government.

[Great Terran Republic]

Whats funny?
I guess Im the Ron Paul of this political party

Definitely. Not exactly the party someone would typically join to support limited government.

I only joined because its right wing i didn’t know it was a statist party

[Prussia-Steinbach]

Definitely. Not exactly the party someone would typically join to support limited government.

I only joined because its right wing i didn’t know it was a statist party

Well, every party needs an in-house moderate.

[Irredento]

I might read him he looks interesting but Evola champions a powerful state unified under a rigid code and caste system

Well yes, he did do just that in Men Among the Ruins, although it was kind of an odd pre-medieval style decentralised state ruled by the caste rather than a centralised fascist government.

I Champion Limited Government and Free Enterprise so people can climb up the social latter

Are you an NIFP member?

Anyway, I think the problem here is that you're too caught up in modern political terms. Julius Evola was a spiritual and philosophical thinker. When he says "right-wing", it has a very different meaning from what Rush Limbaugh means when he says it.

As an aside, I would also recommend Oswald Spengler, René Guénon, and Arthur Moeller van den Bruck to anyone interested in traditionalist and reactionary philosophy. I'll just point out that these guys would be considered "conservative" even prior to the French Revolution and so their philosophies were transcendental and aristocratic, not Fox News "conservatism".

[Great Terran Republic]

I might read him he looks interesting but Evola champions a powerful state unified under a rigid code and caste system

Well yes, he did do just that in Men Among the Ruins, although it was kind of an odd pre-medieval style decentralised state ruled by the caste rather than a centralised fascist government.

I Champion Limited Government and Free Enterprise so people can climb up the social latter

Are you an NIFP member?

Anyway, I think the problem here is that you're too caught up in modern political terms. Julius Evola was a spiritual and philosophical thinker. When he says "right-wing", it has a very different meaning from what Rush Limbaugh means when he says it.

As an aside, I would also recommend Oswald Spengler, René Guénon, and Arthur Moeller van den Bruck to anyone interested in traditionalist and reactionary philosophy. I'll just point out that these guys would be considered "conservative" even prior to the French Revolution and so their philosophies were transcendental and aristocratic, not Fox News "conservatism".

So the type of Conservative I am is a lot different from what he was?

[Hathradic States]

Definitely. Not exactly the party someone would typically join to support limited government.

I only joined because its right wing i didn’t know it was a statist party

Hey, that isn't our focus. Our focus is foreign policy

[Great Terran Republic]

I only joined because its right wing i didn’t know it was a statist party

Well, every party needs an in-house moderate.

Im proud to be a member of the party! I will be to this party what Ron Paul is to the Republican party

[Hathradic States]

Well, every party needs an in-house moderate.

Im proud to be a member of the party! I will be to this party what Ron Paul is to the Republican party

Can I call you Dr. No?