National Imperialist-Freedom Party Headquarters [NSG Senate]

[Zweite Alaje]

Wunderschön.

Nein.

There seems to be many deutschophiles in the party, I am not among them, I don't dislike German things i'm just not a huge appraisier.

The national language is Germanic (according to Hippo's map). I should get Hippo to share the language with me so I can translate our name into Aurentian. We'd have the most patriotic party page!!!

[Othelos]

The title, instead of describing us as conservative, describes us as progressive conservatives. So basically, we're "modern" conservatives that see that some things should change. So we probably seem liberal to the regular conservative (ex. a Republican), but not really, especially economically.

And we don't favor laissez faire economics.

"Liberal-Democrat Status quo party"
Think about it...
Also what are your economic policies, I saw "Third way" so are they similar to ours (Corporatism) or are they more favorable to laissez faire Capitalism(like i implied)?

"Liberal-Democrat Status quo party"? Not really, that doesn't make sense. Progressive is an adjective in our name.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that a market economy is the only way to create wealth, sustainable jobs, innovation and economic growth, and is also the best way to preserve the right of an individual to an individually directed lifestyle.

The party accepts that privatising public services is not always the most efficient course of action, but in the private sector actively seeks to partner with businesses and job creators and to create the best conditions for investors and business owners, as well as taking an active stand in promoting entrepreneurs.

The party believes that while free trade is an excellent long-term goal that gives the benefits of more markets for exporters, and while an open market can help bring new jobs to a local area, free trade needs to be treated with caution as it could negatively impact local industries in the short and medium term.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that while trade unions are admirable in their goals of securing better working and living conditions, and that people ought to continue to strive for such things, trade unions need to be kept in check to ensure they don't cause inflation to rise, or price their workers out of the market, or shut down key sectors of the economy for unrealistic demands.

The party believes that immigration needs to be restricted only to those who are educated, and coming to fill a gap in the market where there is too much demand, or they should be coming to create jobs.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that full employment is something that should be sought.

But, we also favor universal healthcare, social security, etc. You should read the platform if you want more info.

[Irredento]

Yeah like we said the only think Conservative about the party is some weired rightist laisseiz faire economics and there's already about three other parties that cater to that now.

There's very little that justifies the title "conservative".

The title, instead of describing us as conservative, describes us as progressive conservatives. So basically, we're "modern" conservatives that see that some things should change. So we probably seem liberal to the regular conservative (ex. a Republican), but not really, especially economically.

And we don't favor laissez faire economics.

But your party is clearly to the far-left of all historical progressive conservatives of whom I can think. Take Benjamin Disraeli for example. Do you really feel that your party, with its extreme social liberalism, in any way matches his beliefs and ideas?

As a distributist and fan of social Catholicism, I am a progressive conservative.

I think your party is confused as to the difference between progressive conservatism and liberal conservatism. Despite the way the words "progressive" and "liberal" are often used interchangeably in the US these days, they are not the same thing in a historical sense.

[Zweite Alaje]

"Liberal-Democrat Status quo party"
Think about it...
Also what are your economic policies, I saw "Third way" so are they similar to ours (Corporatism) or are they more favorable to laissez faire Capitalism(like i implied)?

"Liberal-Democrat Status quo party"? Not really, that doesn't make sense. Progressive is an adjective in our name.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that a market economy is the only way to create wealth, sustainable jobs, innovation and economic growth, and is also the best way to preserve the right of an individual to an individually directed lifestyle.

The party accepts that privatising public services is not always the most efficient course of action, but in the private sector actively seeks to partner with businesses and job creators and to create the best conditions for investors and business owners, as well as taking an active stand in promoting entrepreneurs.

The party believes that while free trade is an excellent long-term goal that gives the benefits of more markets for exporters, and while an open market can help bring new jobs to a local area, free trade needs to be treated with caution as it could negatively impact local industries in the short and medium term.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that while trade unions are admirable in their goals of securing better working and living conditions, and that people ought to continue to strive for such things, trade unions need to be kept in check to ensure they don't cause inflation to rise, or price their workers out of the market, or shut down key sectors of the economy for unrealistic demands.

The party believes that immigration needs to be restricted only to those who are educated, and coming to fill a gap in the market where there is too much demand, or they should be coming to create jobs.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that full employment is something that should be sought.

There's nothing progressive about your party, you're simply liberals and economic moderates.

[Eliasonia]

Wunderschön.

Nein.

There seems to be many deutschophiles in the party, I am not among them, I don't dislike German things i'm just not a huge appraisier.

^Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.

[Yankee Empire]

"Liberal-Democrat Status quo party"
Think about it...
Also what are your economic policies, I saw "Third way" so are they similar to ours (Corporatism) or are they more favorable to laissez faire Capitalism(like i implied)?

"Liberal-Democrat Status quo party"? Not really, that doesn't make sense. Progressive is an adjective in our name.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that a market economy is the only way to create wealth, sustainable jobs, innovation and economic growth, and is also the best way to preserve the right of an individual to an individually directed lifestyle.

The party accepts that privatising public services is not always the most efficient course of action, but in the private sector actively seeks to partner with businesses and job creators and to create the best conditions for investors and business owners, as well as taking an active stand in promoting entrepreneurs.

The party believes that while free trade is an excellent long-term goal that gives the benefits of more markets for exporters, and while an open market can help bring new jobs to a local area, free trade needs to be treated with caution as it could negatively impact local industries in the short and medium term.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that while trade unions are admirable in their goals of securing better working and living conditions, and that people ought to continue to strive for such things, trade unions need to be kept in check to ensure they don't cause inflation to rise, or price their workers out of the market, or shut down key sectors of the economy for unrealistic demands.

The party believes that immigration needs to be restricted only to those who are educated, and coming to fill a gap in the market where there is too much demand, or they should be coming to create jobs.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that full employment is something that should be sought.

But, we also favor universal healthcare, social security, etc. You should read the platform if you want more info.

It would make perfect sense, the only thing Progressive is that you're not full on laisseiz faire capitalists and support universal health care, and the only thing conservative is that you don't want to just open up the borders to everyone. These are admirable postions but other than that you wish to preserve the status quo, so my suggestion of a name is perfectly adequate and in my opinion ,more accurate.

[Yankee Empire]

I think your party is confused as to the difference between progressive conservatism and liberal conservatism. Despite the way the words "progressive" and "liberal" are often used interchangeably in the US these days, they are not the same thing in a historical sense.

Agree 100 percent.

Whatever happend with that parade? Did i miss it or is it still postponed?

[Unicario]

Volksgenossen, for the stability of the Senate, and all of our positions as Senators, please, let us work to compromise.

[Othelos]

"Liberal-Democrat Status quo party"? Not really, that doesn't make sense. Progressive is an adjective in our name.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that a market economy is the only way to create wealth, sustainable jobs, innovation and economic growth, and is also the best way to preserve the right of an individual to an individually directed lifestyle.

The party accepts that privatising public services is not always the most efficient course of action, but in the private sector actively seeks to partner with businesses and job creators and to create the best conditions for investors and business owners, as well as taking an active stand in promoting entrepreneurs.

The party believes that while free trade is an excellent long-term goal that gives the benefits of more markets for exporters, and while an open market can help bring new jobs to a local area, free trade needs to be treated with caution as it could negatively impact local industries in the short and medium term.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that while trade unions are admirable in their goals of securing better working and living conditions, and that people ought to continue to strive for such things, trade unions need to be kept in check to ensure they don't cause inflation to rise, or price their workers out of the market, or shut down key sectors of the economy for unrealistic demands.

The party believes that immigration needs to be restricted only to those who are educated, and coming to fill a gap in the market where there is too much demand, or they should be coming to create jobs.

The Progressive-Conservative Party believes that full employment is something that should be sought.

There's nothing progressive about your party, you're simply liberals and economic moderates.

Progressive - A person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.

The title, instead of describing us as conservative, describes us as progressive conservatives. So basically, we're "modern" conservatives that see that some things should change. So we probably seem liberal to the regular conservative (ex. a Republican), but not really, especially economically.

And we don't favor laissez faire economics.

But your party is clearly to the far-left of all historical progressive conservatives of whom I can think. Take Benjamin Disraeli for example. Do you really feel that your party, with its extreme social liberalism, in any way matches his beliefs and ideas?

Again, our party doesn't have many official stances on social issues, so we let members decide to vote as they wish on social issues, since they aren't as important as economic ones.

I think your party is confused as to the difference between progressive conservatism and liberal conservatism. Despite the way the words "progressive" and "liberal" are often used interchangeably in the US these days, they are not the same thing in a historical sense.

Did you read our platform? We're not Liberal conservatives.

[The Realm of God]

I think your confusing the right of our party, Radiatia, Wolfmann and myself who are the Disraelian arm and the left of our party. Who have been posting here.

[Yankee Empire]

Progressive - A person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.

No this is the new BS,"History progresses in a straight line" nonsense that modern Liberals refer to as "progressive".

This is real progressivism,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Era

I think your party is confused as to the difference between progressive conservatism and liberal conservatism. Despite the way the words "progressive" and "liberal" are often used interchangeably in the US these days, they are not the same thing in a historical sense.

Did you read our platform? We're not Liberal conservatives.

We're goin by recent actions, not the stated platform.

The De facto not the de jure.

[Irredento]

I think your confusing the right of our party, Radiatia, Wolfmann and myself who are the Disraelian arm and the left of our party. Who have been posting here.

As a Disraelian, you must surely be able to see that you are a member of a party of Whigs?

Progressive - A person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.

No this is the new BS,"History progresses in a straight line" nonsense that modern Liberals refer to as "progressive".

You just reminded me of a video about my favourite philosopher that I love to link liberals to.

[Yankee Empire]

I think your confusing the right of our party, Radiatia, Wolfmann and myself who are the Disraelian arm and the left of our party. Who have been posting here.

As a Disraelian, you must surely be able to see that you are a member of a party of Whigs?

No this is the new BS,"History progresses in a straight line" nonsense that modern Liberals refer to as "progressive".

You just reminded me of a video about my favourite philosopher that I love to link liberals to.

That's funny, I just recommend three of his videos in the Headquarters a few days back.

I don't agree with everything in his videos but he does make many quality points.

Seems a bit too Nietzchen for my tastes though (the channel owner).

[Othelos]

Progressive - A person advocating or implementing social reform or new, liberal ideas.

No this is the new BS,"History progresses in a straight line" nonsense that modern Liberals refer to as "progressive".

This is real progressivism,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Era

That definition of progressivism hasn't been used in nearly a century.

Definitions change. The Republicans used to be the liberal ones, for example.

We're goin by recent actions, not the stated platform.

The De facto not the de jure.

The more centrist portion of our party (including myself) hasn't been participating in the debates all that much (finals, busy with other stuff).

Lanos and I are going to be advocating a compromise on the gun control bill, it'd be good if you guys could help.

[The Realm of God]

I think your confusing the right of our party, Radiatia, Wolfmann and myself who are the Disraelian arm and the left of our party. Who have been posting here.

As a Disraelian, you must surely be able to see that you are a member of a party of Whigs?

No this is the new BS,"History progresses in a straight line" nonsense that modern Liberals refer to as "progressive".

You just reminded me of a video about my favourite philosopher that I love to link liberals to.

Of course, but there is no comparable party and the Prog-Con stance on a regulated economy allows me to pass Acts with a Distributist philosophy.

[Unicario]

The chances of anybody accepting a compromise spearheaded by me is low because of my membership in this party.

=_=

[Kouralia]

The chances of anybody accepting a compromise spearheaded by me is low because of my membership in this party.

=_=

How about a compromise spearheaded by a squadron of T90s by me?

[Ragnarum]

Heh, silly T-90's.

I'll bring the Challenger 2's and we'll see who wins.

[Yankee Empire]

No this is the new BS,"History progresses in a straight line" nonsense that modern Liberals refer to as "progressive".

This is real progressivism,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Era

That definition of progressivism hasn't been used in nearly a century.

I use it all the time.

Lanos and I are going to be advocating a compromise on the gun control bill, it'd be good if you guys could help.

Depends on what the compromise is.

[Irredento]

Lanos and I are going to be advocating a compromise on the gun control bill, it'd be good if you guys could help.

Anything short of throwing this bill out altogether is unacceptable to me.

As a Disraelian, you must surely be able to see that you are a member of a party of Whigs?


You just reminded me of a video about my favourite philosopher that I love to link liberals to.

That's funny, I just recommend three of his videos in the Headquarters a few days back.

I don't agree with everything in his videos but he does make many quality points.

Seems a bit too Nietzchen for my tastes though (the channel owner).

Ah, yeah, the channel owner is a bit Nietzschean, but then so was Spengler himself.

I've talked to EmpiricalMethod, the channel owner, a few times though and he does have some views that differ from the man his channel is currently named after, such as on things like hereditarianism, and he does have some more straightforward political and less philosophical videos in his early upload history, but by and large he agrees with Spengler's views and is propagating them in a really aesthetically pleasing way via his channel.

I'm actually considering making a channel with videos similar to his style but for videos about Julius Evola, René Guénon, and others of a radical traditionalist persuasion. I'll probably throw in some G.K. Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc too but those might be more fitting for a second channel. I'll let you know when I do if you're interested.

Sorry for getting a bit off-topic with this by the way.

As a Disraelian, you must surely be able to see that you are a member of a party of Whigs?


You just reminded me of a video about my favourite philosopher that I love to link liberals to.

Of course, but there is no comparable party and the Prog-Con stance on a regulated economy allows me to pass Acts with a Distributist philosophy.

Did you know about the Reform Party? They aren't official yet due to not having enough members but they're working on it and could certainly use people like yourself. A party like that will finally be able to bridge the massive gap that lies between the Progressive Conservatives and the Classical Monarchists.

As a High Tory, I'm sure I can find a lot in common with you, especially a fellow distributist, even if your One Nation ideology did hijack our historical party IRL~.

[The Realm of God]

Lanos and I are going to be advocating a compromise on the gun control bill, it'd be good if you guys could help.

Anything short of throwing this bill out altogether is unacceptable to me.

That's funny, I just recommend three of his videos in the Headquarters a few days back.

I don't agree with everything in his videos but he does make many quality points.

Seems a bit too Nietzchen for my tastes though (the channel owner).

Ah, yeah, the channel owner is a bit Nietzschean, but then so was Spengler himself.

I've talked to EmpiricalMethod, the channel owner, a few times though and he does have some views that differ from the man his channel is currently named after, such as on things like hereditarianism, and he does have some more straightforward political and less philosophical videos in his early upload history, but by and large he agrees with Spengler's views and is propagating them in a really aesthetically pleasing way via his channel.

I'm actually considering making a channel with videos similar to his style but for videos about Julius Evola, René Guénon, and others of a radical traditionalist persuasion. I'll probably throw in some G.K. Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc too but those might be more fitting for a second channel. I'll let you know when I do if you're interested.

Sorry for getting a bit off-topic with this by the way.

Of course, but there is no comparable party and the Prog-Con stance on a regulated economy allows me to pass Acts with a Distributist philosophy.

Did you know about the Reform Party? They aren't official yet due to not having enough members but they're working on it and could certainly use people like yourself. A party like that will finally be able to bridge the massive gap that lies between the Progressive Conservatives and the Classical Monarchists.

As a High Tory, I'm sure I can find a lot in common with you, especially a fellow distributist, even if your One Nation ideology did hijack our historical party IRL~.

My Conservatism is very much in the vain of High Toryism as I'm mostly focused on National Stability and Culture rather than issues politics, the way I see it is that One-Nationism is the incarnation of High Toryism for the modern age especially since it is the ideology of the current Tory Old Guard.

[Zweite Alaje]

The Reform Party is gonna just become another Progress Coalition clone. There can be no compromise with liberals.

[Irredento]

My Conservatism is very much in the vain of High Toryism as I'm mostly focused on National Stability and Culture rather than issues politics, the way I see it is that One-Nationism is the incarnation of High Toryism for the modern age especially since it is the ideology of the current Tory Old Guard.

My views could honestly be described as neo-feudalistic. I'm a distributist who favours the aristocracy over the bourgeoisie and wish to see us return to the former being the ruling class in our nation. I'm also a Jacobite legitimist and wish to see King Francis II on the throne of an independent Kingdom of Scotland but, well, I'm not about to "fecht for Cherlie" since I feel that I'm definitely in the minority here.

I respect One Nation conservatives a lot more than I do the more cosmopolitan and, quite honestly, Whig elements of the modern Conservative Party and this is why I'm kind of surprised to find one of you in the PCs here.

The Reform Party is gonna just become another Progress Coalition clone. There can be no compromise with liberals.

I've actually talked to their leader and discovered that he is a social conservative with libertarian economic views which actually makes him a natural, albeit moderate, ally of ours.

[Kouralia]

Heh, silly T-90's.

I'll bring the Challenger 2's and we'll see who wins.

Don't make me set the Centurion on you. :<

[Yankee Empire]

That's funny, I just recommend three of his videos in the Headquarters a few days back.

I don't agree with everything in his videos but he does make many quality points.

Seems a bit too Nietzchen for my tastes though (the channel owner).

Ah, yeah, the channel owner is a bit Nietzschean, but then so was Spengler himself.

I've talked to EmpiricalMethod, the channel owner, a few times though and he does have some views that differ from the man his channel is currently named after, such as on things like hereditarianism, and he does have some more straightforward political and less philosophical videos in his early upload history, but by and large he agrees with Spengler's views and is propagating them in a really aesthetically pleasing way via his channel.

I'm actually considering making a channel with videos similar to his style but for videos about Julius Evola, René Guénon, and others of a radical traditionalist persuasion. I'll probably throw in some G.K. Chesterton and Hilaire Belloc too but those might be more fitting for a second channel. I'll let you know when I do if you're interested.
Sorry for getting a bit off-topic with this by the way.

No problem, also on the subject of Julius Evola...