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Postby Yanalia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 6:50 pm

The Communists have filed their pick as the Ministry of Education. Any final objections to our choosing President? I haven't seen any. Also, do we really need to take the whole 48 hour voting period for this? We've been discussing it for a while, and I think only Mollary has voiced unease, and even then not a definitive objection. We also haven't had any votes in some time, and the current vote is unanimously in support with 4 votes in. Anyway, as soon as we can officially join the coalition, I'll submit the pick of President if I don't see any other objections by that time.
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Postby Polvia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:07 pm

Yanalia wrote:The Communists have filed their pick as the Ministry of Education. Any final objections to our choosing President? I haven't seen any. Also, do we really need to take the whole 48 hour voting period for this? We've been discussing it for a while, and I think only Mollary has voiced unease, and even then not a definitive objection. We also haven't had any votes in some time, and the current vote is unanimously in support with 4 votes in. Anyway, as soon as we can officially join the coalition, I'll submit the pick of President if I don't see any other objections by that time.

I will approve of this, but shall allow any objections by a member until the end of the original vote. If a member objects, within that time period, then the matter shall reopened for debate. I think that is a nice compromise. I also have no objection to the position of president as our pick.
I shall make the other parties aware of our joining the coalition, and of our selection.
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Postby Polvia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:22 pm

Do we have any idea of what position we should take next? I was thinking along the lines of Energy, Health or Transportation. Ideas?
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Postby Potenco » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:22 pm

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Postby Yanalia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:38 pm

Polvia wrote:Do we have any idea of what position we should take next? I was thinking along the lines of Energy, Health or Transportation. Ideas?


Energy seems like a good fit, or Transportation or Environment. I am partial to the Ministry of Energy myself, as I have already served in the position and feel that is where we may make a difference the most in implementing the green portion of our party ideology.

However, there is something to be said for picking Foreign Affairs, primarily because I think that we may be better for foreign relations than some of the more extreme elements in the coalition.

Also, I would like to request to change my ambassadorship from TR to USLP, as I've been way more active in the latter thread than the former. TR is really inactive anyway, and not currently a coalition partner.
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Postby Polvia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:27 pm

Yanalia wrote:Also, I would like to request to change my ambassadorship from TR to USLP, as I've been way more active in the latter thread than the former. TR is really inactive anyway, and not currently a coalition partner.

I shall approve your request with immediate effect. You are now the ambassador to the United Socialist Labour Party. Please inform them post-haste.

Foreign Affairs might be a good idea I agree.
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Postby Free South Califas » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:39 pm

I think you made the right choice, RG :)

Do we have any idea how a presidential candidate will be selected yet?
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Postby Polvia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:44 pm

Free South Califas wrote:I think you made the right choice, RG :)

Do we have any idea how a presidential candidate will be selected yet?

Thank you for the support of our decision. :)

I would support a vote. This is a very important position, and in my view it would be crucial to maintain democratic nature in its selection. On that note I wish to express my candidacy for the position. I will submit a ballot in a the next few hours.
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Postby Threlizdun » Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:44 pm

Pardon the intrusion, but the fact that coalition between the Prog-Cons and the ULF appears to be preparing to have Wolfmanne declare an early election is a pressing issue at the moment. While the legality of this certainly is in question, it would be advisable to prepare as early as possible for the chance that the early election may in fact occur. I don't wish to rush you but must say that it is advisable to pick a candidate for President as soon as you can. We do not want to be caught off guard and have the ULF simply bull rush the election.
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Postby Yanalia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:18 pm

Polvia wrote:
Free South Califas wrote:I think you made the right choice, RG :)

Do we have any idea how a presidential candidate will be selected yet?

Thank you for the support of our decision. :)

I would support a vote. This is a very important position, and in my view it would be crucial to maintain democratic nature in its selection. On that note I wish to express my candidacy for the position. I will submit a ballot in a the next few hours.


I fully endorse Chairman Polvia's nomination for the position of President.
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Postby Oneracon » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:22 pm

I assume we'll be picking the Minister of Energy position as well?
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Postby Yanalia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:24 pm

Oneracon wrote:I assume we'll be picking the Minister of Energy position as well?


It seems like an appropriate choice. We'll see, depending on how the USLP picks play out.
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Postby Potenco » Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:34 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Polvia wrote:Thank you for the support of our decision. :)

I would support a vote. This is a very important position, and in my view it would be crucial to maintain democratic nature in its selection. On that note I wish to express my candidacy for the position. I will submit a ballot in a the next few hours.


I fully endorse Chairman Polvia's nomination for the position of President.


I too support Polvia

I hate to promote myself like some kind of pre stalin opportunist, but I have been extensively working with both NIFP and Liberal Democrats in building the tolerance monument and establishing Aurentinians for the Eradication of AIDS. Due to both group's sharing some common (yet each different) interests to ours, I feel I would make an excellent ambassador to either party and could strengthen relations between the Red Greens and whatever party you deem relations with to be more important
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Postby Polvia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:09 pm

Potenco wrote:I hate to promote myself like some kind of pre stalin opportunist, but I have been extensively working with both NIFP and Liberal Democrats in building the tolerance monument and establishing Aurentinians for the Eradication of AIDS. Due to both group's sharing some common (yet each different) interests to ours, I feel I would make an excellent ambassador to either party and could strengthen relations between the Red Greens and whatever party you deem relations with to be more important

Thank you for your support. Do you have a preference on what party?
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Postby Yanalia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:15 pm

I think we do need an ambassador to the Liberal Democrats. They are an important and active party in the Senate, as well as a key potential ally. The NIFP we just have less in common with, and much less to discuss in terms of supporting each other. If I may be so bold, I would recommend Potenco take the position of ambassador to the Liberal Democrats, instead of to the NIFP.
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Postby Polvia » Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:30 pm

Yanalia wrote:I think we do need an ambassador to the Liberal Democrats. They are an important and active party in the Senate, as well as a key potential ally. The NIFP we just have less in common with, and much less to discuss in terms of supporting each other. If I may be so bold, I would recommend Potenco take the position of ambassador to the Liberal Democrats, instead of to the NIFP.

Your argument is sound Yanalia. Your recommendation shall be noted and I appreciate your input on the matter.Though I would like to see what we could do to increase our support on the right that is not in the coalition. I shall wait to see if the Honourable Member has a preference, and if not then it will be decided then.

On another note. Here is my ballot.
Abortion: While my main outlook is at the main causes of abortion, and working to address them in full, I believe abortion is something that should be safe, legal and rare.
Affirmative Action: I stand firmly against affirmative action. In principle it is a good idea, but in practice it seems to only create more tensions between the groups involved. On top of this affirmative action can cause people who are more qualified to not be able to obtain a position due to the qualities covered in affirmative action, for example race.
Authoritarianism: I do not believe in the ideas of authoritarianism. In my view the democratic control of the state, and the limitation of state power, are critical to the maintaining of a democratic state.
Conscription: I stand against conscription on all occasions. No person should ever be forced to fight, or die, unwillingly.
Copyright law: I support the ability for artists and creators of intellectual material to the right to their produced material, but I do think the current laws need to be changed significantly for a more free access system.
Corporate personhood: I do not consider a corporate entity to be a person, nor do I believe that they have a right to the same rights as a person within the country.
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Drug legalization: Quite frankly, the only drug I use on a recreational (and VERY regular) basis is caffeine. Other than that I can’t really be bothered about the matter of drugs. I am perfectly fine with the legalization of soft drugs, but usually I honestly cannot be bothered on the issue.
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Postby Potenco » Sun Jun 16, 2013 4:57 am

I agree with Yanalias above argument. As such, I announce my candidacy for Red Green ambassador to the Liberal Democrats!

Good work on your platform Polvia!

Would anyone else be interested in joining this coalition?

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Postby Mytannion » Sun Jun 16, 2013 6:44 am

Potenco wrote:Would anyone else be interested in joining this coalition?

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=246689


I think a good idea to add to this would be drafting some legislation to try and launch a National Health Service. Me and Senator Califas of the Communist Party have agreed that we'd like to draft some legislation to that effect, but it would be a lot of work. It'd entail talking about central administration, provision of healthcare services, healthcare services provided by local authorities (if we go down the UK route), then special provisions for mental health and financial and administrative provisions too.

Basically I'd like a free at the point-of-service health service for citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth, funded through taxes. I'm probably not the best at drafting legislation, though I would give a hand. As a Party that believes in rights for all, I think this is something we should definitely try and get behind because it'd mean everybody would have a secure access to top quality healthcare, no matter what their financial position, something which is important.
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Postby Polvia » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:04 am

Mytannion wrote:I think a good idea to add to this would be drafting some legislation to try and launch a National Health Service. Me and Senator Califas of the Communist Party have agreed that we'd like to draft some legislation to that effect, but it would be a lot of work. It'd entail talking about central administration, provision of healthcare services, healthcare services provided by local authorities (if we go down the UK route), then special provisions for mental health and financial and administrative provisions too.

Basically I'd like a free at the point-of-service health service for citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth, funded through taxes. I'm probably not the best at drafting legislation, though I would give a hand. As a Party that believes in rights for all, I think this is something we should definitely try and get behind because it'd mean everybody would have a secure access to top quality healthcare, no matter what their financial position, something which is important.

I can help with the healthcare law if you'll have me.

Potenco, you are appointed to being the Ambassador to the Liberal Demorats. Please inform the Liberal Democrats of this as soon as possible.
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Postby Free South Califas » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:07 am

Polvia wrote:
Mytannion wrote:I think a good idea to add to this would be drafting some legislation to try and launch a National Health Service. Me and Senator Califas of the Communist Party have agreed that we'd like to draft some legislation to that effect, but it would be a lot of work. It'd entail talking about central administration, provision of healthcare services, healthcare services provided by local authorities (if we go down the UK route), then special provisions for mental health and financial and administrative provisions too.

Basically I'd like a free at the point-of-service health service for citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth, funded through taxes. I'm probably not the best at drafting legislation, though I would give a hand. As a Party that believes in rights for all, I think this is something we should definitely try and get behind because it'd mean everybody would have a secure access to top quality healthcare, no matter what their financial position, something which is important.

I can help with the healthcare law if you'll have me.

That would be much appreciated on my end, at least; RL and my personal legislation queue (to which i have neglected to add this in my thread so far) will limit me.
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Postby Gallup » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:09 am

I feel I need to introduce myself. I am the NIFP's ambassador to the RG party.
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Postby Yanalia » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:17 am

Mytannion wrote:
Potenco wrote:Would anyone else be interested in joining this coalition?

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=246689


I think a good idea to add to this would be drafting some legislation to try and launch a National Health Service. Me and Senator Califas of the Communist Party have agreed that we'd like to draft some legislation to that effect, but it would be a lot of work. It'd entail talking about central administration, provision of healthcare services, healthcare services provided by local authorities (if we go down the UK route), then special provisions for mental health and financial and administrative provisions too.

Basically I'd like a free at the point-of-service health service for citizens of the Aurentine Commonwealth, funded through taxes. I'm probably not the best at drafting legislation, though I would give a hand. As a Party that believes in rights for all, I think this is something we should definitely try and get behind because it'd mean everybody would have a secure access to top quality healthcare, no matter what their financial position, something which is important.


There is a universal healthcare bill in the queue at number 2, so you may want to look at that before you write your own.

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Postby Polvia » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:17 am

Gallup wrote:I feel I need to introduce myself. I am the NIFP's ambassador to the RG party.

Welcome Ambassador Gallup, I look forward to working with you.
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Postby Gallup » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:27 am

Polvia wrote:
Gallup wrote:I feel I need to introduce myself. I am the NIFP's ambassador to the RG party.

Welcome Ambassador Gallup, I look forward to working with you.

I do also.
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Postby Mytannion » Sun Jun 16, 2013 10:27 am

Polvia wrote:I can help with the healthcare law if you'll have me.


That would be great.

Yanalia wrote:There is a universal healthcare bill in the queue at number 2, so you may want to look at that before you write your own.


Thanks for the heads up, I will definitely have a look at the bill and then we will decide where to go from there.
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