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Postby Britcan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:23 am

Railways Act
Urgency: Moderate


Author: Britcan [NSP]
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RECOGNISING that while under British ownership a network of railways was established in this nation by the British government and that this network is still in existence today.

ASSERTING that since we are now an independent nation the railways should now be owned by the people of this nation.

HEREBY forms the Aurentine Railways Board which will operate as a part of the Ministry of Transport and be charged with overseeing the maintaing and running of the national railway system as well as regularly checking up on the rapid transit networks in order to ensure that the local government is running and maintaing them to a reasonable degree.

MANDATES the following;

1) All parts of the existing railway network including overground, underground and other rapid transit systems should be nationalised with immediate effect. All citizens of this nations who owned shares in the railways as of 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 should be awarded the worth of the shares at 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 in compensation.

2) The government must hand over the running and maintenance of rapid transit networks to local government as soon as it is reasonably possible for it to do so.

3) The government take up the duty of maintaining and running the national railway system of this nation and that any and all profits from the railways go into the treasury of the nation.

4) All railway and rapid transit networks may run at a loss of no more than ten per cent in any given year.

5) If local government is deemed by the Aurentine Railways Board to be running a rail or rapid transit network inefficiently or in any way in contravention of this Act, the Aurentine Railway Board may assume temporary control of the relevant network in order to restructure their organisation and increase their efficiency to an acceptable level.

6) The Aurentine Railways Board can make a local government lower it's fare prices if they are deemed to be excessive.

7) The national rail and rapid transit network must be operating solely off electricity by 2035 in order to reduce carbon emissions.

GIVES the ministry of transport the ability to use it's funds to improve and expand the national rail network as well as rapid transit networks.


Is this good?

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Postby Polvia » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:34 am

Britcan wrote:
Railways Act
Urgency: Moderate


Author: Britcan [NSP]
Sponsors:

Description:.

RECOGNISING that while under British ownership a network of railways was established in this nation by the British government and that this network is still in existence today.

ASSERTING that since we are now an independent nation the railways should now be owned by the people of this nation.

HEREBY forms the Aurentine Railways Board which will operate as a part of the Ministry of Transport and be charged with overseeing the maintaing and running of the national railway system as well as regularly checking up on the rapid transit networks in order to ensure that the local government is running and maintaing them to a reasonable degree.

MANDATES the following;

1) All parts of the existing railway network including overground, underground and other rapid transit systems should be nationalised with immediate effect. All citizens of this nations who owned shares in the railways as of 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 should be awarded the worth of the shares at 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 in compensation.

2) The government must hand over the running and maintenance of rapid transit networks to local government as soon as it is reasonably possible for it to do so.

3) The government take up the duty of maintaining and running the national railway system of this nation and that any and all profits from the railways go into the treasury of the nation.

4) All railway and rapid transit networks may run at a loss of no more than ten per cent in any given year.

5) If local government is deemed by the Aurentine Railways Board to be running a rail or rapid transit network inefficiently or in any way in contravention of this Act, the Aurentine Railway Board may assume temporary control of the relevant network in order to restructure their organisation and increase their efficiency to an acceptable level.

6) The Aurentine Railways Board can make a local government lower it's fare prices if they are deemed to be excessive.

7) The national rail and rapid transit network must be operating solely off electricity by 2035 in order to reduce carbon emissions.

GIVES the ministry of transport the ability to use it's funds to improve and expand the national rail network as well as rapid transit networks.


Is this good?

I like it and I'll co-sponsor.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:38 am

Polvia wrote:
Britcan wrote:
Railways Act
Urgency: Moderate


Author: Britcan [NSP]
Sponsors:

Description:.

RECOGNISING that while under British ownership a network of railways was established in this nation by the British government and that this network is still in existence today.

ASSERTING that since we are now an independent nation the railways should now be owned by the people of this nation.

HEREBY forms the Aurentine Railways Board which will operate as a part of the Ministry of Transport and be charged with overseeing the maintaing and running of the national railway system as well as regularly checking up on the rapid transit networks in order to ensure that the local government is running and maintaing them to a reasonable degree.

MANDATES the following;

1) All parts of the existing railway network including overground, underground and other rapid transit systems should be nationalised with immediate effect. All citizens of this nations who owned shares in the railways as of 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 should be awarded the worth of the shares at 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 in compensation.

2) The government must hand over the running and maintenance of rapid transit networks to local government as soon as it is reasonably possible for it to do so.

3) The government take up the duty of maintaining and running the national railway system of this nation and that any and all profits from the railways go into the treasury of the nation.

4) All railway and rapid transit networks may run at a loss of no more than ten per cent in any given year.

5) If local government is deemed by the Aurentine Railways Board to be running a rail or rapid transit network inefficiently or in any way in contravention of this Act, the Aurentine Railway Board may assume temporary control of the relevant network in order to restructure their organisation and increase their efficiency to an acceptable level.

6) The Aurentine Railways Board can make a local government lower it's fare prices if they are deemed to be excessive.

7) The national rail and rapid transit network must be operating solely off electricity by 2035 in order to reduce carbon emissions.

GIVES the ministry of transport the ability to use it's funds to improve and expand the national rail network as well as rapid transit networks.


Is this good?

I like it and I'll co-sponsor.


How does that effect me? I have a private railway that takes my products from my industrial complex down to my port. It does not run passenger trains or transport any goods other than the ones I make or the raw materials needed for production.
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Postby Britcan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:50 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Polvia wrote:I like it and I'll co-sponsor.


How does that effect me? I have a private railway that takes my products from my industrial complex down to my port. It does not run passenger trains or transport any goods other than the ones I make or the raw materials needed for production.

If it's just a single stretch of track and isn't part of the railway network it could potentially be exempt. We should probably clarify this though.

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Postby Cameroi » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:04 am

count me in (green party u.s. irl) public transportation powered by clean energy is the key to a healthy environment.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:31 am

Britcan wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
How does that effect me? I have a private railway that takes my products from my industrial complex down to my port. It does not run passenger trains or transport any goods other than the ones I make or the raw materials needed for production.

If it's just a single stretch of track and isn't part of the railway network it could potentially be exempt. We should probably clarify this though.


Yeah it has one up line and one down line about 10-12 miles long and is not connected to the national railway network. The trains are powered by hydrogen that is made on the complex whilst about 60% of the complexes electricity comes from a hydroelectric power plant whilst we are trying to work out how to get the other 40% from renewable sources. So its pretty green by the worlds current standards.

We would be more than happy to supply the government with cheap hydrogen and trains but only if we were allowed to keep our private line.#

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Postby Phing Phong » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:30 am

In response to the private railway owner's point, the act could specify that railways that are neither connected to the national network nor were built by the colonial authorities may only be nationalised with the owner's consent, and at the discretion of the Aurentine Railway Board.

I am willing to co-sponsor this legislation and I approve of the changes Britcan most recently submitted.
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Postby Britcan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:44 am

Is this satisfactory?

Railways Act
Urgency: Moderate


Author: Britcan [NSP]
Sponsors: Polvia [RG], Phing Phong [RG]

Description:.

RECOGNISING that while under British ownership a network of railways was established in this nation by the British government and that this network is still in existence today.

ASSERTING that since we are now an independent nation the railways should now be owned by the people of this nation.

HEREBY forms the Aurentine Railways Board which will operate as a part of the Ministry of Transport and be charged with overseeing the maintaing and running of the national railway system as well as regularly checking up on the rapid transit networks in order to ensure that the local government is running and maintaing them to a reasonable degree.

MANDATES the following;

1) All parts of the existing railway network including overground, underground and other rapid transit systems should be nationalised with immediate effect. All citizens of this nations who owned shares in the railways as of 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 should be awarded the worth of the shares at 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 in compensation. Small, single-line railways that are not connected to the national network, do not carry passengers and were built independently the colonial authorities are exempt from this ruling.

2) The government must hand over the running and maintenance of rapid transit networks to local government as soon as it is reasonably possible for it to do so.

3) The government take up the duty of maintaining and running the national railway system of this nation and that any and all profits from the railways go into the treasury of the nation.

4) All railway and rapid transit networks may run at a loss of no more than ten per cent in any given year.

5) If local government is deemed by the Aurentine Railways Board to be running a rail or rapid transit network inefficiently or in any way in contravention of this Act, the Aurentine Railway Board may assume temporary control of the relevant network in order to restructure their organisation and increase their efficiency to an acceptable level.

6) The Aurentine Railways Board can make a local government lower it's fare prices if they are deemed to be excessive.

7) The national rail and rapid transit network must be operating solely off electricity by 2035 in order to reduce carbon emissions.

GIVES the ministry of transport the ability to use it's funds to improve and expand the national rail network as well as rapid transit networks.

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:50 am

Britcan wrote:Is this satisfactory?

Railways Act
Urgency: Moderate


Author: Britcan [NSP]
Sponsors: Polvia [RG], Phing Phong [RG]

Description:.

RECOGNISING that while under British ownership a network of railways was established in this nation by the British government and that this network is still in existence today.

ASSERTING that since we are now an independent nation the railways should now be owned by the people of this nation.

HEREBY forms the Aurentine Railways Board which will operate as a part of the Ministry of Transport and be charged with overseeing the maintaing and running of the national railway system as well as regularly checking up on the rapid transit networks in order to ensure that the local government is running and maintaing them to a reasonable degree.

MANDATES the following;

1) All parts of the existing railway network including overground, underground and other rapid transit systems should be nationalised with immediate effect. All citizens of this nations who owned shares in the railways as of 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 should be awarded the worth of the shares at 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 in compensation. Small, single-line railways that are not connected to the national network, do not carry passengers and were built independently the colonial authorities are exempt from this ruling.

2) The government must hand over the running and maintenance of rapid transit networks to local government as soon as it is reasonably possible for it to do so.

3) The government take up the duty of maintaining and running the national railway system of this nation and that any and all profits from the railways go into the treasury of the nation.

4) All railway and rapid transit networks may run at a loss of no more than ten per cent in any given year.

5) If local government is deemed by the Aurentine Railways Board to be running a rail or rapid transit network inefficiently or in any way in contravention of this Act, the Aurentine Railway Board may assume temporary control of the relevant network in order to restructure their organisation and increase their efficiency to an acceptable level.

6) The Aurentine Railways Board can make a local government lower it's fare prices if they are deemed to be excessive.

7) The national rail and rapid transit network must be operating solely off electricity by 2035 in order to reduce carbon emissions.

GIVES the ministry of transport the ability to use it's funds to improve and expand the national rail network as well as rapid transit networks.


That looks better, Thank you for listening to my concerns. Nationalization of the railways is not something I like much but given that my main concerns are addressed. In return i would be happy to at a minimum abstain (maybe even vote for depending on the amendments made over the next few weeks) if this came to vote and my party did not force my hand against the bill.
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Postby Britcan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:20 am

I would like to thank you all for helping with the improvement of this bill. It is currently in the coffee shop. I hope to be able to work with the Red Greens again.

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Postby Wolfmanne » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:02 am

Britcan wrote:Is this satisfactory?

Railways Act
Urgency: Moderate


Author: Britcan [NSP]
Sponsors: Polvia [RG], Phing Phong [RG]

Description:.

RECOGNISING that while under British ownership a network of railways was established in this nation by the British government and that this network is still in existence today.

ASSERTING that since we are now an independent nation the railways should now be owned by the people of this nation.

HEREBY forms the Aurentine Railways Board which will operate as a part of the Ministry of Transport and be charged with overseeing the maintaing and running of the national railway system as well as regularly checking up on the rapid transit networks in order to ensure that the local government is running and maintaing them to a reasonable degree.

MANDATES the following;

1) All parts of the existing railway network including overground, underground and other rapid transit systems should be nationalised with immediate effect. All citizens of this nations who owned shares in the railways as of 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 should be awarded the worth of the shares at 00:00 UTC on Monday 3rd of June 2013 in compensation. Small, single-line railways that are not connected to the national network, do not carry passengers and were built independently the colonial authorities are exempt from this ruling.

2) The government must hand over the running and maintenance of rapid transit networks to local government as soon as it is reasonably possible for it to do so.

3) The government take up the duty of maintaining and running the national railway system of this nation and that any and all profits from the railways go into the treasury of the nation.

4) All railway and rapid transit networks may run at a loss of no more than ten per cent in any given year.

5) If local government is deemed by the Aurentine Railways Board to be running a rail or rapid transit network inefficiently or in any way in contravention of this Act, the Aurentine Railway Board may assume temporary control of the relevant network in order to restructure their organisation and increase their efficiency to an acceptable level.

6) The Aurentine Railways Board can make a local government lower it's fare prices if they are deemed to be excessive.

7) The national rail and rapid transit network must be operating solely off electricity by 2035 in order to reduce carbon emissions.

GIVES the ministry of transport the ability to use it's funds to improve and expand the national rail network as well as rapid transit networks.

I will co-sponsor. These are merely some nitpicking concerns, but private railways should be allowed provided that they are built on private property and are approved by the owners of the private property. Also, there should be some provisions to allow heritage railway. Other than that, its fine.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:12 am

I will also co-sponsor.
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Postby Britcan » Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:40 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:These are merely some nitpicking concerns, but private railways should be allowed provided that they are built on private property and are approved by the owners of the private property.

I'm not really sure how I could phrase it to allow that. Any suggestions?

Also, there should be some provisions to allow heritage railway.

I don't know if heritage railway system currently exists. I would support a bill creating one though.

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Postby Phing Phong » Tue Jun 04, 2013 3:40 pm

Britcan wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:These are merely some nitpicking concerns, but private railways should be allowed provided that they are built on private property and are approved by the owners of the private property.

I'm not really sure how I could phrase it to allow that. Any suggestions?


There is nothing in the Act preventing private railways from being built alongside the Board-run ones. As the existing narrow-use private railways have been grandfathered in, I don't see anything in the current wording of the law that would allow the Board to nationalise private railways built after the Act comes into force.
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Postby Gaelic Celtia » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:30 am

I have applied and been accepted into the NSG Senate, and am wanting to join the Red-Greens.
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I think we should issue a strong whip in favor of the Worker Empowerment Act, as the right is sure to muster strong opposition with their own three-line whips.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:11 pm

Yanalia wrote:I think we should issue a strong whip in favor of the Worker Empowerment Act, as the right is sure to muster strong opposition with their own three-line whips.


I will gladly second the motion.
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Postby Oneracon » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:38 am

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Yanalia wrote:I think we should issue a strong whip in favor of the Worker Empowerment Act, as the right is sure to muster strong opposition with their own three-line whips.


I will gladly second the motion.


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I will gladly second the motion.


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Postby Yanalia » Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:22 am

We should also TG our less active members to make sure they vote on such an important issue.
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Postby Polvia » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:57 pm

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As the required number of party members have ruled in favour of a whip, I shall approve this action.

The Worker Empowerment Act has now been placed in a Whip, and shall be enforced by the Chief Whip and any Junior Whips they chose to appoint with permission of the Chairman.

Gaelic Celtia wrote:I have applied and been accepted into the NSG Senate, and am wanting to join the Red-Greens.

Welcome to the The Red-Greens. :)
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:22 pm

I'd like to see some sort of medium through which the Communist Party, the USLP, and the Red-Greens could cooperate. Though our ideologies are quite notably different, I've gone through the three parties' platforms and there are several similarities we could cooperate on:

-All parties are Socialist
-All parties support environmentalism
-All are opposed to sexism, racism, and bigotry toward people of a differing sexuality.
-All support welfare
-All support democracy


Is anybody in this party open to the idea of cooperation between the three parties of the far left?
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Postby Polvia » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:29 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:I'd like to see some sort of medium through which the Communist Party, the USLP, and the Red-Greens could cooperate. Though our ideologies are quite notably different, I've gone through the three parties' platforms and there are several similarities we could cooperate on:

-All parties are Socialist
-All parties support environmentalism
-All are opposed to sexism, racism, and bigotry toward people of a differing sexuality.
-All support welfare
-All support democracy


Is anybody in this party open to the idea of cooperation between the three parties of the far left?

I was actually thinking about this a few hours ago. I think the idea needs fleshing out still, but I think the premise is good.

What we could do is form some sub-coalition faction, or something like that, that could be called something like the "Unified Front for Socialism". It wouldn't be a coalition per se, but more like a cross party support agreement between Socialist-Communist Parties to work towards our common goals and work together to draft legislation for it.
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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:33 pm

Polvia wrote:
Greater Pokarnia wrote:I'd like to see some sort of medium through which the Communist Party, the USLP, and the Red-Greens could cooperate. Though our ideologies are quite notably different, I've gone through the three parties' platforms and there are several similarities we could cooperate on:

-All parties are Socialist
-All parties support environmentalism
-All are opposed to sexism, racism, and bigotry toward people of a differing sexuality.
-All support welfare
-All support democracy


Is anybody in this party open to the idea of cooperation between the three parties of the far left?

I was actually thinking about this a few hours ago. I think the idea needs fleshing out still, but I think the premise is good.

What we could do is form some sub-coalition faction, or something like that, that could be called something like the "Unified Front for Socialism". It wouldn't be a coalition per se, but more like a cross party support agreement between Socialist-Communist Parties to work towards our common goals and work together to draft legislation for it.


Yeah, the way I see it it would be a sort of Socialist/Communist think tank. it wouldn't be a coalition with any election candidates or any decision-making abilities, just a place for our three parties to discuss and cooperate on legislation.
First Deputy Secretary of the Communist Party and Minister of Education of the NSG Senate, representing Constituency 316.




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