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Postby Oneracon » Tue Jun 18, 2013 11:47 am

Hello fellow Red-Greens, I'd like to hear your opinion on my latest bill that creates a Support Corps within the Commonwealth Armed Forces that consists of humanist interfaith chaplains (Morale Officers) and clinical mental health counsellors (Welfare Officers).

Please see the Support Corps Establishment Act in the Coffee Shop.
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Postby Polvia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:09 pm

If I must be honest, I would prefer a chaplain system, but accompany it with "humanist chaplains" like they do in Belgium or the Netherlands to offer non-religious chaplain services.

I feel like inter-faith welfare officers might be good as a single option for the mental needs and health, as well as consultation, of the soldiers, but that ultimately a chaplain service, or something similar to it, may also be needed alongside of it to address the spiritual needs of the soldiers in the military.
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Postby Venaleria » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:43 pm

Yanalia wrote:I am writing taxation enforcement legislation, if any party member would like to help.


I will gladly help, Senator.
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Postby Mollary » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:21 pm

I apologise greatly, but after I end my term as chief whip I will be leaving the party. My aim is to found a new party which will only have one policy: to vote no on every law. Through this and by expanding the party I aim to make it so that neither coalition can pass a law on its own, causing both sides to be forced to negotiate and re-create a golden age of compromise and agreement between both sides. At that point I will allow all my senators free vote on everything.
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Postby Venaleria » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:24 pm

Mollary wrote:I apologise greatly, but after I end my term as chief whip I will be leaving the party. My aim is to found a new party which will only have one policy: to vote no on every law. Through this and by expanding the party I aim to make it so that neither coalition can pass a law on its own, causing both sides to be forced to negotiate and re-create a golden age of compromise and agreement between both sides. At that point I will allow all my senators free vote on everything.


That party sounds...interesting...

But argument and views aside, its been great to work with you, Mollary. I wish you the best of luck!
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Postby Mollary » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:24 pm

Venaleria wrote:
Mollary wrote:I apologise greatly, but after I end my term as chief whip I will be leaving the party. My aim is to found a new party which will only have one policy: to vote no on every law. Through this and by expanding the party I aim to make it so that neither coalition can pass a law on its own, causing both sides to be forced to negotiate and re-create a golden age of compromise and agreement between both sides. At that point I will allow all my senators free vote on everything.


That party sounds...interesting...

But argument and views aside, its been great to work with you, Mollary. I wish you the best of luck!

Thank you, I will possibly return if my mission is successful in killing the bickering.
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:27 pm

Mollary wrote:I apologise greatly, but after I end my term as chief whip I will be leaving the party. My aim is to found a new party which will only have one policy: to vote no on every law. Through this and by expanding the party I aim to make it so that neither coalition can pass a law on its own, causing both sides to be forced to negotiate and re-create a golden age of compromise and agreement between both sides. At that point I will allow all my senators free vote on everything.


I'll make sure to add "not" to every sentence of my bills then. :P
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Postby Mollary » Tue Jun 18, 2013 2:29 pm

Yanalia wrote:
Mollary wrote:I apologise greatly, but after I end my term as chief whip I will be leaving the party. My aim is to found a new party which will only have one policy: to vote no on every law. Through this and by expanding the party I aim to make it so that neither coalition can pass a law on its own, causing both sides to be forced to negotiate and re-create a golden age of compromise and agreement between both sides. At that point I will allow all my senators free vote on everything.


I'll make sure to add "not" to every sentence of my bills then. :P

Haha! Or, we could just organise a general session of talks between all parties (except maybe the less democratic and slightly insane ones).
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Postby Polvia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:59 pm

Mollary wrote:Haha! Or, we could just organise a general session of talks between all parties (except maybe the less democratic and slightly insane ones).

It has been an honour working with you Mollary, and I hope you are successful in your goal.
On that note, I would be very open to all-party talks. :)
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Postby Potenco » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:25 pm

OK fellow Senators what is your opinion of this Monarchy Act thats in the coffee shop.

I think we should set up a party whip against it, and I will talk to the Liberal Democrats about doing the same. We cant let someone from a right wing extremist party like the NIFP gain power.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:16 pm

I agree. This nation is a Republic by right, and should not be forced to bow to any individual just because they're in a certain family.
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:06 pm

I couldn't be more against this act. First, monarchies are just awful, and second, if we are to have a monarchy, why did we pick Hath of all people?
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:08 pm

Yanalia wrote:I couldn't be more against this act. First, monarchies are just awful, and second, if we are to have a monarchy, why did we pick Hath of all people?

Because I am just and hold no bias when in position of authority.


Sorry, I was coming here to try and win support for it. Saw this, thought, "Hey, I should defend myself".

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Postby Venaleria » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:38 pm

Of course, even if we did put out a party whip, would there be much reason? I mean, what are the odds of that bill actually passing?
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:40 pm

Venaleria wrote:Of course, even if we did put out a party whip, would there be much reason? I mean, what are the odds of that bill actually passing?

Fairly decent. A lot of the independents and other individuals rather like me.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:41 pm

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Postby Geilinor » Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:10 pm

I don't think many of your party members will be supporting a monarchy, constitutional/ceremonial or not, being democratic socialists, so please speak out in the chambers and coffee shop against the act. Hath of the NIFP wants to be king.
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Postby Free South Califas » Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:22 am

Venaleria wrote:Of course, even if we did put out a party whip, would there be much reason? I mean, what are the odds of that bill actually passing?

They're counting on the current inactivity on the left and center.
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Postby Oneracon » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:37 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=15089499#p15089499
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Just one question, why does 1a specify only the gov domain, when there are several other domains that are also for government use (assuming the Internet Registration Act passes?

Also, the ccTLD for Aurentina is .an as per the Internet Registration Act (since .ac is the ccTLD for Acension Island :p )
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:21 am

Oneracon wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=15089499#p15089499
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Just one question, why does 1a specify only the gov domain, when there are several other domains that are also for government use (assuming the Internet Registration Act passes?

Also, the ccTLD for Aurentina is .an as per the Internet Registration Act (since .ac is the ccTLD for Acension Island :p )

It says the government may not modify Internet content, unless of course, it's a government website, which we can edit, because we made it.
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Postby Oneracon » Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:52 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
Just one question, why does 1a specify only the gov domain, when there are several other domains that are also for government use (assuming the Internet Registration Act passes?

Also, the ccTLD for Aurentina is .an as per the Internet Registration Act (since .ac is the ccTLD for Acension Island :p )

It says the government may not modify Internet content, unless of course, it's a government website, which we can edit, because we made it.


Then the act should say "content that exists in a government domain."
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:57 pm

Oneracon wrote:
Geilinor wrote:It says the government may not modify Internet content, unless of course, it's a government website, which we can edit, because we made it.


Then the act should say "content that exists in a government domain."

It says "content that exists in the .gov.ac(should be .an) domain". Presumably that will be our only government domain.
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Postby Oneracon » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:06 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Oneracon wrote:
Then the act should say "content that exists in a government domain."

It says "content that exists in the .gov.ac(should be .an) domain". Presumably that will be our only government domain.


Well since the Internet Registration Act will be voted on prior to this bill, it will may need to be amended then.

Under InteRAct there are not one but four government domains.
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Postby Euskirribakondara » Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:22 pm

Hello everyone! I just posted my application to become a senator; and I just wanted to let you know I've chosen the RG as my party. It's the closest to my personal liking among all the available parties.

EDIT: I've been accepted. Say hello to a new member!
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Postby Yanalia » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:21 pm

Euskirribakondara wrote:Hello everyone! I just posted my application to become a senator; and I just wanted to let you know I've chosen the RG as my party. It's the closest to my personal liking among all the available parties.

EDIT: I've been accepted. Say hello to a new member!


Welcome to the party! Do please be active in the Senate. You can also take an ambassador position if you like, with permission from the Chairman.
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