Classical Monarchist Party Headquarters [NSG Senate]

[Greater Pokarnia]

Its important to work with both the communists and socialists

Betrayal Detected, Betrayal Detected. Senator Vazdania, please follow our Assimilation Procedure - otherwise we'll forced you to follow the Annihilation Procedure instead. Be careful.

Just kid. Anyways, I'd strongly oppose 'working with socialists and communists'. And note that current Chairman, Senator Irredento has promised his opposition against cooperation with Communists and Socialists and I do believe that he is consistent in his promise.

I don't mean to seem rude by butting into another party's thread uninvited, but Irredento has actually openly expressed interest in working with the USLP regarding opposition to the Internal Security Act. He's shown that he is willing to work with Communists and Socialists if there's something that they and his own party agree on.

Which is actually a good thing.

[Irredento]

Betrayal Detected, Betrayal Detected. Senator Vazdania, please follow our Assimilation Procedure - otherwise we'll forced you to follow the Annihilation Procedure instead. Be careful.

Just kid. Anyways, I'd strongly oppose 'working with socialists and communists'. And note that current Chairman, Senator Irredento has promised his opposition against cooperation with Communists and Socialists and I do believe that he is consistent in his promise.

I don't mean to seem rude by butting into another party's thread uninvited, but Irredento has actually openly expressed interest in working with the USLP regarding opposition to the Internal Security Act. He's shown that he is willing to work with Communists and Socialists if there's something that they and his own party agree on.

Which is actually a good thing.

This is true. I am more than happy to work with our enemies in the Senate from time to time but only if we have shared views on certain issues. We will never compromise our party line or core values in order to gain concessions. We will always vote for that which is right even if it means turning the left against us.

Senator Vazdania, however, seems to be suggesting that we should compromise our core values in order to gain concessions from the leftists. This is not something I would be willing to do and, seeing as how I was elected as the most extreme far-right candidate during our party leadership race on the promise that I would most certainly not compromise for minor concessions, for me to consider doing so now would be a betrayal of those who supported me and have remained loyal ever since. If I recall correctly, Senator Vazdania voted for a leftist candidate who has since left our party altogether, joined the Progressive-Conservatives, and is attempting to outright disarm our militia, so I'm sure you can see where the ideological conflict between radical traditionalists such as Senior Whip Azurand, whose views are very close to my own, and more liberal members such as Junior Whip Vazdania.

I would remind Senator Vazdania that, as Junior Whip, he is expected more than most people to stick to the party line and so these suggestions that we should abandon our principles, as suggested by the traitor Finium, in order to gain concessions from people who will never agree with us anyway are unacceptable. I would also remind him that, as Senior Whip, it is in Azurand's power to hire and fire Junior Whips and it is also his job to keep his junior whips in line. The party must be able to trust that you will be willing to enforce the party line during votes and so I hope that, despite your personal disagreements with us, you will still be willing to carry out the tasks expected of you as our Junior Whip.

[Irredento]

In other news, I have now formalised our close but, until today, unofficial alliance with the National Imperialist Freedom Party. The CMP and NIFP are now officially allied. Both Chairman Hath and I have agreed to make mention of this new alliance in our Party HQ OPs and, from now on, our members will support each other whenever possible, be in terms of votes, armed conflict, or merely in debate. If Lord President Old Tyrannia could add this info to the OP next time he is on, this would be much appreciated.

The name of this new grouping in the Senate shall be The Stahlhelm Alliance. This name is derived from the German Stahlhelm, a monarchist paramilitary from the Weimar era, and fits both of our parties quite well as we are monarchists while the NIFP contains many Germanophiles.

Our parties are now allies and you can all consider the Imperialists as such fro now on. They are welcome to post in our HQ thread as are we in theirs so long as we are respectful to each other, as I am confident we will be, although most of our business will be done in an as-of-yet uncreated new thread created for this alliance, in much the same way as the two existing coalitions in the Senate have their own threads.

This is a new dawn for the far-right in the Senate. Rather than compromise our values and become yet another libertarian party, we have allied ourselves with our fellow social conservatives and friends in the NIFP. Rather than yet another coalition of tiny parties who don't even agree with each other on most issues, this is an alliance in the truest sense of the word. Rather than a loose coalition of career politicians and corporate lackeys, the Monarchists and Imperialists are now blood brothers.

Long live The Stahlhelm Alliance!!!

[Hathradic States]

*props up feet on table*

So, you guys battening down?

[Strykla]

Long live the Stalhelm Alliance! Deo, Regi, Patri!

However, when it comes to Vazdania, I would respectfully disagree with Irredento's position. It is important to have multiple viewpoints in a group; it helps bring diversity, newness, and credibility to our party. I of course believe that communists are ridiculous(though I do say the extent of control governments get in socialism can be desirable) but I merely wish to maintain that I personally do not wish to appear like the Tea Party.

[Irredento]

Long live the Stalhelm Alliance! Deo, Regi, Patri!

However, when it comes to Vazdania, I would respectfully disagree with Irredento's position. It is important to have multiple viewpoints in a group; it helps bring diversity, newness, and credibility to our party. I of course believe that communists are ridiculous(though I do say the extent of control governments get in socialism can be desirable) but I merely wish to maintain that I personally do not wish to appear like the Tea Party.

Of course. I wasn't trying to gag Senator Vazdania in any way, but was merely pointing out that in his capacity as Junior Whip, he might be expected to enforce things with which it seems he disagrees.

I felt I should point this out specifically because, as an uncompromisingly socially conservative party that is more open on economic issues, it is the former over which Vazdania would assumedly have us compromise and this simply isn't something I would be willing to do. Over economic issues, I'm more than happy to let senators make their own choices on many issues and we could indeed come to some agreements with the leftists from time to time, but on social issues, we will not compromise.

I believe I have shown myself, since becoming Chairman, to be more than willing to work with the liberals and leftists on economic issues so far, which leads me to assume that Senator Vazdania wishes to see us be more socially liberal, despite the party having shown itself to be overwhelmingly against this, with many in favour of three-line whips on those issues. The liberal leadership candidate, Finium, was overwhelmingly defeated during our leadership race while the socially conservative Diopolis along with my even more extreme far-right platform received a huge majority of the votes. This makes me feel justified in enforcing such a socially conservative party line.

On the other hand, it is also possible that Senator Vazdania has not been around much to see that I am in fact cooperating with other parties more than he might have thought. I would suggest that he look back through the thread and notice that I in fact declared a conscience vote on the Universal Healthcare Act which was a very socialistic bill. This is the sort of thing on which I am willing to work with other parties. Economic issues. However, on social issues, I refuse to budge. We cannot compromise on that which is right as, like it says in our Manifesto, "a traditionalist's morality is not swayed by the times in which he lives".

[Harbertia]

I celebrate our alliance with the National Imperialist Freedom Party. Long may we work in peace (and together in conflict).

[Harbertia]

Long live the Stalhelm Alliance! Deo, Regi, Patri!

However, when it comes to Vazdania, I would respectfully disagree with Irredento's position. It is important to have multiple viewpoints in a group; it helps bring diversity, newness, and credibility to our party. I of course believe that communists are ridiculous(though I do say the extent of control governments get in socialism can be desirable) but I merely wish to maintain that I personally do not wish to appear like the Tea Party.

Of course. I wasn't trying to gag Senator Vazdania in any way, but was merely pointing out that in his capacity as Junior Whip, he might be expected to enforce things with which it seems he disagrees.

I felt I should point this out specifically because, as an uncompromisingly socially conservative party that is more open on economic issues, it is the former over which Vazdania would assumedly have us compromise and this simply isn't something I would be willing to do. Over economic issues, I'm more than happy to let senators make their own choices on many issues and we could indeed come to some agreements with the leftists from time to time, but on social issues, we will not compromise.

I believe I have shown myself, since becoming Chairman, to be more than willing to work with the liberals and leftists on economic issues so far, which leads me to assume that Senator Vazdania wishes to see us be more socially liberal, despite the party having shown itself to be overwhelmingly against this, with many in favour of three-line whips on those issues. The liberal leadership candidate, Finium, was overwhelmingly defeated during our leadership race while the socially conservative Diopolis along with my even more extreme far-right platform received a huge majority of the votes. This makes me feel justified in enforcing such a socially conservative party line.

On the other hand, it is also possible that Senator Vazdania has not been around much to see that I am in fact cooperating with other parties more than he might have thought. I would suggest that he look back through the thread and notice that I in fact declared a conscience vote on the Universal Healthcare Act which was a very socialistic bill. This is the sort of thing on which I am willing to work with other parties. Economic issues. However, on social issues, I refuse to budge. We cannot compromise on that which is right as, like it says in our Manifesto, "a traditionalist's morality is not swayed by the times in which he lives".

[Maryginia]

I've decided to resign from the party.

[Irredento]

The Stahlhelm Alliance thread is now up!!!

CMP members are encouraged to post their opinions on how government should be run and stand for ministerial positions in the alliance.

The following positions are available:

Minister of Finance:
Minister of Defence:
Minister of Justice:
Minister of Immigration:
Minister of Health:
Minister of Education:
Minister of the Arts:
Minister of the Environment:

[Irredento]

I've decided to resign from the party.

As Senator Maryginia has quit the Party, he is hereby stripped of his position as a General of the Royalist Guard, leaving Regiment 3 without a leader.

Any CMP members interested in taking over his position as the leader of 500 men should let me know either here or in the Royalist Guard thread. You will be given full control over the regiment. This means that you will be allowed to name them whatever you want, give them a regimental standard, motto, anthem etc as well as arm them and modify their uniforms however you see fit.

[Vazdania]

The Stahlhelm Alliance thread is now up!!!

CMP members are encouraged to post their opinions on how government should be run and stand for ministerial positions in the alliance.

The following positions are available:

Minister of Finance:
Minister of Defence:
Minister of Justice:
Minister of Immigration:
Minister of Health:
Minister of Education:
Minister of the Arts:
Minister of the Environment:

Senator, why exactly are you making this German in Nature?

[Irredento]

Senator, why exactly are you making this German in Nature?

What's wrong with Germany?

I explained the name choice here:

The name of this new grouping in the Senate shall be The Stahlhelm Alliance. This name is derived from the German Stahlhelm, a monarchist paramilitary from the Weimar era, and fits both of our parties quite well as we are monarchists while the NIFP contains many Germanophiles.

I'll go into more detail though if you wish.

Basically, our alliance with the NIFP is named after the historical Stahlhelm paramilitary group that existed during Weimar Germany and was dedicated to restoring the monarchy. Unfortunately, they failed and the Nazis ended up coming to power and forcing them to disband.

The idea of naming us Stahlhelm was a combined effort on the part of Chairman Hath of the NIFP and myself. He suggested the "Steel Alliance" and in response I suggested "Stahlhelm". In this way, it combined his idea of calling it that with an homage to a famous monarchist organisation that might well have saved Germany by bringing back the Second Reich and preventing the horrors of the Third if things had gone a little better.

Along with this appropriately monarchist name for the alliance, it is also, as I said before, fitting for the NIFP since that party contains a lot of Germanophiles.

Something that might also be of note to you is that the unofficial history of Aurentina that we do seem to be sticking with has actually described us as a Germanic nation so even the language itself is kind of appropriate.

Do you have a problem with the name though? I personally really like the name and symbolism behind it. If you have any more questions about the alliance, feel free to ask.

[Othelos]

Would you guys support this bill as a compromise?

Weapon and Paramilitary Regulation Act

Urgency: Very High

Drafted by: Othelos (PC) and Lanos (PC)

Co-Sponsored by:

Recognizing the need to regulate paramailitaries and weapons,

Noting that the Senate is very divided on whether and/or how to perform regulation,

Recommending the Senate to adopt this bill in order to ensure the integrity of the Senate,

Hereby adopts this bill as a compromise.


Section A: General Weapons Restrictions

1a. No person, business, or any other organization, excluding the military and agencies that require destructive devices, may purchase or sell weapons that are not firearms (this excludes weapons in the exclusion section of section D1). Consequences for violating this section can be a fine of 10,000 NSC to 30,000 NSC and/or 10 years and six months and 5,000 NSC for each weapon illegally sold, depending on the severity and frequency of offense.

1b. Weapons excluded from section 1a and may be legally purchased or sold include manual-action guns, pistols, semi-automatic, and automatic weapons. Purchasers or sellers must be at least 18 years of age. Sellers under age 18 will have to pay a fine of 2,500 NSC for each weapon sold.

1bi. Body armor may be legally sold or purchased by individuals that are at least 18 years of age and must not have committed a serious criminal offense. Using body armor for defense during violent crime shall be illegal, and will warrant anything from a fine of 30,000 NSC to lifetime imprisonment, depending on the degree and frequency of use.

1bii. Weapons purchased before the existence of the Senate shall be excluded from section 1a, but only if the weapon(s) identification code and owners' name and address(es) are registered in the national database. The penalty for failing to do so can be anywhere from 2,500 NSC to 15,000 NSC, depending on the severity of the infraction of the number of weapons per owner.

2a. Businesses, organizations, or persons that sell any weapons that comply with section 1b must perform stringent background check on all persons purchasing weapons, and then add the purchaser's name, address(es), and purchased weapon(s) identification code to a national database, in order to ensure better security for the nation. Failure to comply with this section will result in a fine of anywhere from 5,000 to 15,000 NSC, with 5,000 NSC added for each weapon improperly sold.

2b. Any prospective purchaser of automatic weapons must also obtain a permit from the government before purchasing one of these weapons. In order to obtain a licence, the prospective purchaser may not have a) committed a serious criminal offense or b) have a mental illness or a psychological disorder. Prospective purchasers of manual-action guns, pistols, or semi-automatic weapons may obtain a permit if they wish, but are not obligated to.

3. Each citizen shall have the right to bear arms, as long as he or she complies with section 1bii, 2a, and 2b of this act. However, a citizen may not carry any arms in public areas (excluding gun ranges and specially designated hunting areas). If a citizen violates this section, he or she can face anything from a 5,000 to 50,000 NSC fine, depending on the type and number of weapons. If a weapon is discharged or used in a public area other than gun ranges and specially designated hunting areas, a fine of the same range on top of 10 years imprisonment may be sentenced.

Section B: Body Armor and Other Personal Protective Equipment

1a. The purchase, possession, and sale of body armor in the country shall be legal with the same general restrictions as regulating the purchase, possession, and sale of weapons that do not require a government permit. Body armor may be legally sold or purchased by individuals that are at least 18 years of age and must not have committed a serious criminal offense. Persons that have been convicted of a serious criminal offense are forbidden to purchase such armor.

1b. Using body armor for defense during violent crime shall be illegal, and will warrant anything from a fine of 30,000 NSC to lifetime imprisonment, depending on the degree and frequency of use.

1c. Certain types of body armor that are to be restricted to civilians are types that feature a special feature that enables protection from rifle rounds in contrast to normal body armor that protects against pistol rounds. Such a purchase must require a government permit before its purchase. It is an offense to possess such body armor without a permit and punishable by a 10,000 NSC fine.

2. The possession of other types of protective equipment, such as gas masks, shall be legal for possession regardless of criminal history or mental history.

Section C: Restrictions on Paramilitaries

1. Paramilitaries are permitted to contain up to 1500 people and possess weapons that comply with sections A1 and D1.

2a. Paramilitaries that contain over 1500 people, after the passage of this act, have a ten day grace period before they must give their weapons up to the government. They may voluntarily give up weapons before the grace period ends. The government must store these firearms in a secure, secret location, if they comply with section A1 and D1. Weapons that do not comply with section A1 and D1 will be destroyed.

2b. If a weapon that has been confiscated and complies with sections A1 and D1 is damaged or destroyed, the government must fully compensate the value of the damages, according to the degree of damage or destruction.

2c. Members of paramilitary organizations that are or were in a state of belligerence against the government and were captured by government forces may not retain their privately-owned weapons and must give their weapons up for secret and secure storage to the government. They shall retain the right to bear arms again unless proven guilty of a crime in a court of law for a) a serious criminal offense or b) crimes related to to paramilitary organization, and the government must destroy all weapons of owners found guilty.

3. Once a paramilitary containing over 1500 people has been reduced to 1500 people, the government must return confiscated weapons to members and ex-members.

Section D: Definitions

1. Destructive devices are defined as weapons including, but not limited to, chemical/biological/incindiary/magnetic/energy/explosive weapons, rockets, bombs, tanks, experimental weapons, and weapons in development. Weapons excluded, and that are legal to purchase, are swords (or similar), knives, and bow and arrows.

2. A mental illness is defined as a psychological pattern or anomaly that is generally associated with distress or disability, and which is not considered part of normal development in our culture. For the purposes of this bill, this only includes mental disorders that do not cause the person to become violent or lose touch with reality.

3. A background check is defined as a comprehensive investigation in the history of a person for serious criminal offenses or mental illness. Any persons found to have one or both is not permitted to purchase any weapons.

4. A national database is defined as a secure storage site for data. For the purposes of this bill, the database will only hold the name, weapon(s) identification code, and address(es) of a weapon owner.

5. A serious criminal offense is defined as violent crime, such as sexual offenses, murder, manslaughter, abduction, robbery, extortion, and assault.

6. A paramilitary is defined as an organization of people that functions as a military, but is not part of the state.

7. A weapon identification code is defined as a unique code between six and ten digits, which all weapons are required to possess. This, however, excludes antique weapons which are only for the purpose of collection or display. Failure to comply with this section will warrant a fine of between 5000 NSC and 25000 NSC, depending on whether the weapon whether the weapon was used in a crime.

[Regnum Dominae]

Hello,

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Thank you!

[Rohamistan]

The Stahlhelm Alliance thread is now up!!!

CMP members are encouraged to post their opinions on how government should be run and stand for ministerial positions in the alliance.

The following positions are available:

Minister of Finance:
Minister of Defence:
Minister of Justice:
Minister of Immigration:
Minister of Health:
Minister of Education:
Minister of the Arts:
Minister of the Environment:

Can I be the Minister of Defence?

[Rohamistan]

I've decided to resign from the party.

As Senator Maryginia has quit the Party, he is hereby stripped of his position as a General of the Royalist Guard, leaving Regiment 3 without a leader.

Any CMP members interested in taking over his position as the leader of 500 men should let me know either here or in the Royalist Guard thread. You will be given full control over the regiment. This means that you will be allowed to name them whatever you want, give them a regimental standard, motto, anthem etc as well as arm them and modify their uniforms however you see fit.

Can I be the new General?

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

The Stahlhelm Alliance thread is now up!!!

CMP members are encouraged to post their opinions on how government should be run and stand for ministerial positions in the alliance.

The following positions are available:

Minister of Finance:
Minister of Defence:
Minister of Justice:
Minister of Immigration:
Minister of Health:
Minister of Education:
Minister of the Arts:
Minister of the Environment:

I would be happy to take the position of Minister of Justice.

[Old Tyrannia]

I strongly disapprove of the decision to formalise our alliance with the NIFP. I don't consider it to be in the party interest and am not impressed that I was not consulted about it.

[Irredento]

I strongly disapprove of the decision to formalise our alliance with the NIFP. I don't consider it to be in the party interest and am not impressed that I was not consulted about it.

Lord President, I am disappointed that you're undermining my authority in this way after appointing me as acting Chairman. This decision to form a new far-right coalition which is, for the record, open to any future far-right parties as well as the Imperialists, was made in reaction to the formation of coalitions among the leftists and libertarians in the Senate. As none of the other crossparty groupings in any way resembled our own ideology, I felt it was time to form a socially conservative coalition, which obviously had to start out with the CMP and NIFP as its first members. Without having formed this group, it would leave us as the only party in the Senate isolated and without allies.

As party Chairman, I felt that this action was my prerogative and don't see how it would in any way damage our party interests. While the rest of the party implores me to work more closely with other parties, you seem to want us to be more isolated. From the start, I have made no secret of my intention to ally ourselves with the NIFP, so this should come as no surprise.

From the list of candidates during the leadership race:

On the right stands myself, Irredento, a far-right extremist proposing that we become defiantly reactionary, enforce three-line whips on all social issues, found our own militia, and ally ourselves with the far-right, Fascists included, even if this means turning the centrists against us.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe you complained about this idea at the time or since then, so the fact that you are upset about this now has honestly come as a surprise to me.

To me, it seemed that the formation of a socially conservative coalition in the Senate was inevitable and not a drastic decision requiring approval from you and the rest of the party, and if I had realised you felt this strongly about it, I would have put it to a vote and consulted you first. I just felt it was the logical next step in the already existing relationship I've worked so hard to build with the NIFP that no one would really have any issues with it.

If you wish to use your authority as founder of our party to cancel our membership in this alliance and bring us back to being the only isolated party in the entire Senate, I will respect this decision, but must then tender my resignation as Chairman as I do not feel I would be able to get any of our legislation passed if forced to work in such political isolation.

[Kouralia]

The Senatorial Database has been established for your senators to provide their information etc. for the people's perusal. Senator Kourie (USLP) can be used as an example of how to write one.

[Old Tyrannia]

Chairman, if I intended to overrule the chairman of the Party every time they did something I disagreed with I would not have bothered to step down in the first place. Nor will I exercise my authority to cancel the "Stalhelm Alliance" although I do not believe it would be outside my remit to do so. It is true that it is the Chairman's prerogative to arrange electoral alliances and deals with other parties- however, this is not the same as establishing what is effectively a union between our parties. Entering into such an organisation should have been passed by myself and the Party Congress first.

Likewise, I recognise that in a radical Left-leaning senate, the far right represents our best hope for cooperation on conservative issues. I do not believe that this alliance is necessary nor desirable, however. What you call "isolation", I call "independence"- the ability to decide our own policy and negotiate independently with other parties, still cooperating with the NIFP on social issues and areas where we agree while remaining free to oppose any positions we disagree with. Tying ourselves permanently to the NIFP severely limits our options. What's more, I do not like, trust or respect the NIFP. Let's not forget that they failed to support us on the Monarchy Bill, and in fact I said then and there that in future that would make cooperation between our parties difficult.

As a member of the party, I am entitled to give my opinion, and I have done so. With all due respect to Chairman Irredento, I remain opposed to this development.

[Transoxthraxia]

You mind if I join, if it's still open? I believe my party's defaulted at this point in time.

[Yankee Empire]

You mind if I join, if it's still open? I believe my party's defaulted at this point in time.

Indeed NPP is no more.

[Old Tyrannia]

You mind if I join, if it's still open? I believe my party's defaulted at this point in time.

By all means, welcome.