Classical Monarchist Party Headquarters [NSG Senate]

[Grand Longueville]

No. For instance I would have no problem supporting Dio, or Distruzio, or the Lord Founder, but I find you to possess subversive liberalism that ought not to be possessed by a candidate representing this most noble Party.

A Quote By Distruzio, who , might I add, is in the same caucus As I am.
Many classical liberals were ardent monarchists. Many contemporary liberals are ardent traditionalists and monarchists. Liberal isn't necessarily progressive. Those of us who are libertarian monarchists can be liberal but tend to view progressivism with skepticism.

Alright, this changes nothing. Classical liberals were quite monarchist by today's standards. I don't know of many contemporary liberals who are traditionalist or monarchist, however. I, however, reject and most utterly repudiate this notion of liberalism and modernism. I have found that you, on the other hand, hold these to be central tenets of your political thought. You are very much a progressive, it seems; and if you are not, then you ought to work on your expression of such thought so as it cannot be confused.

[Maryginia]

A Quote By Distruzio, who , might I add, is in the same caucus As I am.
Many classical liberals were ardent monarchists. Many contemporary liberals are ardent traditionalists and monarchists. Liberal isn't necessarily progressive. Those of us who are libertarian monarchists can be liberal but tend to view progressivism with skepticism.

Alright, this changes nothing. Classical liberals were quite monarchist by today's standards. I don't know of many contemporary liberals who are traditionalist or monarchist, however. I, however, reject and most utterly repudiate this notion of liberalism and modernism. I have found that you, on the other hand, hold these to be central tenets of your political thought. You are very much a progressive, it seems; and if you are not, then you ought to work on your expression of such thought so as it cannot be confused.

Keep in Mind Liberalism and Progressivism are not the same thing, Please citw, where I have shown to be Progressive, or at least you thought I was.

[Distruzio]

A Quote By Distruzio, who , might I add, is in the same caucus As I am.
Many classical liberals were ardent monarchists. Many contemporary liberals are ardent traditionalists and monarchists. Liberal isn't necessarily progressive. Those of us who are libertarian monarchists can be liberal but tend to view progressivism with skepticism.

Alright, this changes nothing. Classical liberals were quite monarchist by today's standards. I don't know of many contemporary liberals who are traditionalist or monarchist, however. I, however, reject and most utterly repudiate this notion of liberalism and modernism. I have found that you, on the other hand, hold these to be central tenets of your political thought. You are very much a progressive, it seems; and if you are not, then you ought to work on your expression of such thought so as it cannot be confused.

What a strange position to take, Senator, following Vatican II. Surely you recognize the progressivist nature of that?

[Grand Longueville]

Alright, this changes nothing. Classical liberals were quite monarchist by today's standards. I don't know of many contemporary liberals who are traditionalist or monarchist, however. I, however, reject and most utterly repudiate this notion of liberalism and modernism. I have found that you, on the other hand, hold these to be central tenets of your political thought. You are very much a progressive, it seems; and if you are not, then you ought to work on your expression of such thought so as it cannot be confused.

What a strange position to take, Senator, following Vatican II. Surely you recognize the progressivist nature of that?

I am a strong opponant of the Vatican II documents, most notably Dignitatis Humanae and Sacrosanctum Concilium. As a regular attendant of the Tridentine Mass, I am a strong opponant of this fickle and lukewarm modernity that has so swayed the hearts of the Faithful to error.

[Distruzio]

What a strange position to take, Senator, following Vatican II. Surely you recognize the progressivist nature of that?

I am a strong opponant of the Vatican II documents, most notably Dignitatis Humanae and Sacrosanctum Concilium. As a regular attendant of the Tridentine Mass, I am a strong opponant of this fickle and lukewarm modernity that has so swayed the hearts of the Faithful to error.

I thought you might, sir. And I applaud that sentiment, I honestly do.

I remain just as curious about the perceived progressivism you see in my friend, here?

[Grand Longueville]

Alright, this changes nothing. Classical liberals were quite monarchist by today's standards. I don't know of many contemporary liberals who are traditionalist or monarchist, however. I, however, reject and most utterly repudiate this notion of liberalism and modernism. I have found that you, on the other hand, hold these to be central tenets of your political thought. You are very much a progressive, it seems; and if you are not, then you ought to work on your expression of such thought so as it cannot be confused.

Keep in Mind Liberalism and Progressivism are not the same thing, Please citw, where I have shown to be Progressive, or at least you thought I was.

Your willingness to devolve into protest against the Mafia and your general libertarian views leave a treacherous taste. I shudder to consider your views on marriage, theology, and abortion.

[Distruzio]

My fellow party members, I will be going on holiday soon, thus I will be inactive from Senate and party politics. I will attempt to log on now and again to see what the current affairs are.

Just thought I should inform you now so you do not believe I am abandoning my duties in the senate.

Senator, I'd like to remind you that our lounge here is holiday. But if you feel that a trip to the bahamas is necessary for your mental health, I'll have a drink for you... perhaps a few more than that as well.

[Galactic Britannia]

Keep in Mind Liberalism and Progressivism are not the same thing, Please citw, where I have shown to be Progressive, or at least you thought I was.

Your willingness to devolve into protest against the Mafia and your general libertarian views leave a treacherous taste. I shudder to consider your views on marriage, theology, and abortion.

And what are your views?

[Distruzio]

OOC: Apologies for not getting around to this earlier. I must've missed the post, brother.

I do not question their loyalty to the party, I question if the loyalty to the Mafia for those who are in it is higher than loyalty to the Party

Mr. Senator... come now. Repeat that sentence in your head and ask yourself if you did not just contradict yourself. If you do not question the loyalty of the members of this party targeted by the inquiry you suggest, then there shouldn't be an inquiry especially when the reason for an inquiry (as you protest as untrue and then insist is true in the same breath) is to question their loyalty.

if they are more loyal to the Mafia, then they, unfortunately are, quite dangerous, as they can be used to subvert the party's purpose.

The irony, I fear, my friend is lost on you. What, in your opinion is the purpose of the Party?

In addition, If the wish to defend the mafia more than they wish to Defend the Tradition's of this nation, something that can be inferred by learning that the loyalty to the mafia is higher than that of the party, well that Can be a problem

Senator, you repeat yourself.

Finally, I do wish to Elevate Liberty, I understand My methods Are vanguard-esque, I am not a vanguard, myself, however, I feel this is the only way to do this, if anyone in the party, anyone, has a better way, please suggest them, I myself Do not find this suggestion Ideal, And I suggested it, I do not like the idea, and I suggested it, unfortunately I feel though it is something that must be stomached, again, though should anyone have a better way to perform this task, Please Suggest it.

Then you admit that, as you pause to consider, this is perhaps an unwise course of action you propose. Reactionary vanguardism has no place here. And that is precisely what you now insist we indulge ourselves. To purge a phantom not yet manifest you wish for us to catapult ourselves into action without a specific target, a specific goal, nor the specific tools with which we might discern our way. In such an act I fear we lose ourselves.

Senator. My friend. Relax. The battle for the soul of this party is not upon us. There is no phantom. Ghosts are not real. The Mafia? If they are as easily found out as you suppose (through an official internal inquiry) then I have to ask.... what danger could they pose? You must have faith in the men we surround ourselves with. Otherwise, you court paranoia and ostracism.

[Maryginia]

Keep in Mind Liberalism and Progressivism are not the same thing, Please citw, where I have shown to be Progressive, or at least you thought I was.

Your willingness to devolve into protest against the Mafia and your general libertarian views leave a treacherous taste. I shudder to consider your views on marriage, theology, and abortion.

I have work and A party to get to, but I"ll Post them later, though my answers, may surprise you. Keep in mind, I am not secular nor atheistic.

[Maryginia]

OOC: Apologies for not getting around to this earlier. I must've missed the post, brother.

I do not question their loyalty to the party, I question if the loyalty to the Mafia for those who are in it is higher than loyalty to the Party

Mr. Senator... come now. Repeat that sentence in your head and ask yourself if you did not just contradict yourself. If you do not question the loyalty of the members of this party targeted by the inquiry you suggest, then there shouldn't be an inquiry especially when the reason for an inquiry (as you protest as untrue and then insist is true in the same breath) is to question their loyalty.

if they are more loyal to the Mafia, then they, unfortunately are, quite dangerous, as they can be used to subvert the party's purpose.

The irony, I fear, my friend is lost on you. What, in your opinion is the purpose of the Party?

In addition, If the wish to defend the mafia more than they wish to Defend the Tradition's of this nation, something that can be inferred by learning that the loyalty to the mafia is higher than that of the party, well that Can be a problem

Senator, you repeat yourself.

Finally, I do wish to Elevate Liberty, I understand My methods Are vanguard-esque, I am not a vanguard, myself, however, I feel this is the only way to do this, if anyone in the party, anyone, has a better way, please suggest them, I myself Do not find this suggestion Ideal, And I suggested it, I do not like the idea, and I suggested it, unfortunately I feel though it is something that must be stomached, again, though should anyone have a better way to perform this task, Please Suggest it.

Then you admit that, as you pause to consider, this is perhaps an unwise course of action you propose. Reactionary vanguardism has no place here. And that is precisely what you now insist we indulge ourselves. To purge a phantom not yet manifest you wish for us to catapult ourselves into action without a specific target, a specific goal, nor the specific tools with which we might discern our way. In such an act I fear we lose ourselves.

Senator. My friend. Relax. The battle for the soul of this party is not upon us. There is no phantom. Ghosts are not real. The Mafia? If they are as easily found out as you suppose (through an official internal inquiry) then I have to ask.... what danger could they pose? You must have faith in the men we surround ourselves with. Otherwise, you court paranoia and ostracism.

My good Senator, After some time I have realized you are right, My proposal in addition to being vanguard-esque would in theory, possibly promote liberty if done right, if done wrong, security, however, In practice, would only promote security, and as such I Withdraw my proposal.

[Unicario]

Keep in Mind Liberalism and Progressivism are not the same thing, Please citw, where I have shown to be Progressive, or at least you thought I was.

Your willingness to devolve into protest against the Mafia and your general libertarian views leave a treacherous taste. I shudder to consider your views on marriage, theology, and abortion.

Let the gays marry, Theocracy is needless opiate for the masses, and abortion should be legal. </socialist>

[Grand Longueville]

Your willingness to devolve into protest against the Mafia and your general libertarian views leave a treacherous taste. I shudder to consider your views on marriage, theology, and abortion.

Let the gays marry, Theocracy is needless opiate for the masses, and abortion should be legal. </socialist>

Who is this who answers me as if I asked her a question?

[Kouralia]

Who is this who answers me as if I asked her a question?

Unicario. Next to the post there's a name and a picture, they tell you who posted.

No need to thank me, I'm happy to have been of service.

[Grand Longueville]

Who is this who answers me as if I asked her a question?

Unicario. Next to the post there's a name and a picture, they tell you who posted.

No need to thank me, I'm happy to have been of service.

[Rumostan]

I forget, who is running in the Senate for this party?

[Distruzio]

I forget, who is running in the Senate for this party?

We're all Senators.

[Rumostan]

I forget, who is running in the Senate for this party?

We're all Senators.

Oh dear, my mistake, I meant the Presidential election.

[Distruzio]

We're all Senators.

Oh dear, my mistake, I meant the Presidential election.

There are a few interested senators but traditionally we're a monarchist Party. The Head of State, we believe, should be a monarch. So we, in general, support either the recognition of one of the royal houses as wielding a legitimate claim to the throne or the embrace of the Queen of the United Kingdom.

[Rumostan]

Oh dear, my mistake, I meant the Presidential election.

There are a few interested senators but traditionally we're a monarchist Party. The Head of State, we believe, should be a monarch. So we, in general, support either the recognition of one of the royal houses as wielding a legitimate claim to the throne or the embrace of the Queen of the United Kingdom.

I already knew that....

[Rumostan]

Just a quick question, do you think that I am ready to attempt to become the President?

[Galactic Britannia]

Oh dear, my mistake, I meant the Presidential election.

There are a few interested senators but traditionally we're a monarchist Party. The Head of State, we believe, should be a monarch. So we, in general, support either the recognition of one of the royal houses as wielding a legitimate claim to the throne or the embrace of the Queen of the United Kingdom.

We shall not succumb to the laughable "imperialism" of the Pseudo-Britannian Empire that managed to lose its possessions only now existing as a petty liberal egalitarian commonwealth.

OOC: Who officially makes up Aurentine history? Because as far as I know, Aurentine never had a monarchy, it was a republic since the gods of Forum 7 danced it into existence.

[Slazliyka]

There are a few interested senators but traditionally we're a monarchist Party. The Head of State, we believe, should be a monarch. So we, in general, support either the recognition of one of the royal houses as wielding a legitimate claim to the throne or the embrace of the Queen of the United Kingdom.

We shall not succumb to the laughable "imperialism" of the Pseudo-Britannian Empire that managed to lose its possessions only now existing as a petty liberal egalitarian commonwealth.

OOC: Who officially makes up Aurentine history? Because as far as I know, Aurentine never had a monarchy, it was a republic since the gods of Forum 7 danced it into existence.

According to the official history we just became independent from the UK.

[Galactic Britannia]

We shall not succumb to the laughable "imperialism" of the Pseudo-Britannian Empire that managed to lose its possessions only now existing as a petty liberal egalitarian commonwealth.

OOC: Who officially makes up Aurentine history? Because as far as I know, Aurentine never had a monarchy, it was a republic since the gods of Forum 7 danced it into existence.

According to the official history we just became independent from the UK.

What era? From the mention of "Queen Elizabeth" I take it's 21st century, if so then no, we will resist joining their liberal commonwealth at all costs and form our own Empire with our own monarch. If it were the colonial era with the mighty British Empire then I would've reconsidered.

[Rumostan]

According to the official history we just became independent from the UK.

What era? From the mention of "Queen Elizabeth" I take it's 21st century, if so then no, we will resist joining their liberal commonwealth at all costs and form our own Empire with our own monarch. If it were the colonial era with the mighty British Empire then I would've reconsidered.

Wow, you are really right wing. Are you going to attempt to become the President?