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Postby Rumostan » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:42 am

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Old Tyrannia wrote:I think I may have alienated an awful lot of people in the last hour or so, so I must apologise too and reiterate that I am only trying to do what is in the party's best interests. I like and respect Dio, but it's becoming increasingly difficult not to criticize his inactivity, especially at a time when we really need strong leadership, and I feel obliged to use what power I have to try and provide some sort of organization and leadership.

I will temporarily reinstate Nihil as a party member and allow the rest of the party to pass its judgement before taking further action. On the bright side, the Coalition is still burning, and it's pouring oil on itself too.


Providing strong leadership is necessary when we are without our chairman, yet as the Lord President, you should not turn away advice from your party members who support the establishment of a monarchy.

Perhaps the party should look into a mixed government system in a way to establish a monarchy in our country.


I have asked for this but call it a Constitutional Monarchy, that sounds better. I will second this.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:26 pm

What do you think we've been campaigning for all this time? An absolute monarchy? No, our manifesto calls for an executive constitutional monarchy. The Coalition have dismissed even the idea of a purely ceremonial monarch. They're frustratingly bullheaded.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:33 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:What do you think we've been campaigning for all this time? An absolute monarchy? No, our manifesto calls for an executive constitutional monarchy. The Coalition have dismissed even the idea of a purely ceremonial monarch. They're frustratingly bullheaded.


Quite, Ironic given there claims we are the "extremists" and they are "rational centrists" according to their trumpet blowing they like to espouse so often. In my opinion the coalition are like the Gumbys in this sketch. All you have to start is replace the word "Doctor" and "brain" with "we're rational centrists"
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:40 pm

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I call the entire party to vote against this injustice, calling our Lord President's descision tyrannical and not allowing one of our own to defend his actions infront of his fellow party members.

I suggest you wait until Chairman Diopolis returns and ask him to step in. He's technically party leader, so although I can overrule him, I will alter my decision if he asks me to. However the chairman has been very inactive of late, hence why I felt the need to take action myself to defend the CMP's reputation. The constabulary, which I repeat appears to be targeting us specifically, was threatening to round up the entirety of the Royalist Guard and arrest them without cause. I felt it was necessary to distance ourselves from the incident as much as possible.

Your decision is correct, though I would have suspended him until an investigation is complete. Assaulting an officer is a serious matter, and we must send a message that we do not approve of such a thing.
As for the coalitions: we will remain in the stalhelm alliance for now.
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Aurentine Constabularies wrote:EDIT: this is actually god-modding. There is currently little evidence to join him to the crimes beyond 'he was there and threatened them - then he was gone and one of them was killed'


This, I had left so the guards acted on their own judgement, I had not ordered them to do anything. I knew the captain was determined to pick a fight despite my private words calling for him to stand down. so I believed I should get out of there as fast as possible when they came in the windows. It is my belief that the captain and his unit have gone rogue and we should help the constabulary hunt them down.


OOC: On the mafia I have not yet replied either way to the TG, I feel it could be cool RP (Thus why I said I could be interested) but I don't know if it sits well with my morals.

You all know a mafia is clandestine right so if I did decide to join you should not be aware of it IC wise until I am caught doing something in public in connection to the mafia. I am sure most of you are aware of this basic RP etiquette.

EDIT: I am also responsible for the coalition burning right now with my little suggestion !


So Dio, what is your opinion?
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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:49 pm

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The Nihilistic view wrote:
This, I had left so the guards acted on their own judgement, I had not ordered them to do anything. I knew the captain was determined to pick a fight despite my private words calling for him to stand down. so I believed I should get out of there as fast as possible when they came in the windows. It is my belief that the captain and his unit have gone rogue and we should help the constabulary hunt them down.


OOC: On the mafia I have not yet replied either way to the TG, I feel it could be cool RP (Thus why I said I could be interested) but I don't know if it sits well with my morals.

You all know a mafia is clandestine right so if I did decide to join you should not be aware of it IC wise until I am caught doing something in public in connection to the mafia. I am sure most of you are aware of this basic RP etiquette.

EDIT: I am also responsible for the coalition burning right now with my little suggestion !


So Dio, what is your opinion?

Until you join the Mafia, you remain a member of the CMP. I expect you to cooperate with law enforcement, and do not join the Aurentine mafia. I would request that you refrain from threatening police officers in the future.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:53 pm

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The Nihilistic view wrote:
So Dio, what is your opinion?

Until you join the Mafia, you remain a member of the CMP. I expect you to cooperate with law enforcement, and do not join the Aurentine mafia. I would request that you refrain from threatening police officers in the future.


Ok, Thanks for the clean up.
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:55 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:What do you think we've been campaigning for all this time? An absolute monarchy? No, our manifesto calls for an executive constitutional monarchy. The Coalition have dismissed even the idea of a purely ceremonial monarch. They're frustratingly bullheaded.


The manifesto also incluse social conservatism as well.
If it was just Mixed Government, we might have had a better chance.

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Postby Diopolis » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:37 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:What do you think we've been campaigning for all this time? An absolute monarchy? No, our manifesto calls for an executive constitutional monarchy. The Coalition have dismissed even the idea of a purely ceremonial monarch. They're frustratingly bullheaded.


The manifesto also incluse social conservatism as well.
If it was just Mixed Government, we might have had a better chance.

For the audience we're trying to pitch to, I have a feeling that monarchism is going to be a harder sell than social conservatism. Besides, this party is a culturally conservative party(at least mostly). That's one of the reasons we were founded. On another note, I apologize for my inactivity, and would like to ask what I missed.
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:44 pm

Diopolis wrote:
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The manifesto also incluse social conservatism as well.
If it was just Mixed Government, we might have had a better chance.

For the audience we're trying to pitch to, I have a feeling that monarchism is going to be a harder sell than social conservatism. Besides, this party is a culturally conservative party(at least mostly). That's one of the reasons we were founded. On another note, I apologize for my inactivity, and would like to ask what I missed.


You missed the vote on the appointment of the PM and a few legislations I do not remember.

Also, shouldn't the OP party member list be updated? It still has USR within the party and you're still listed as Deputy Chairman.

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Postby Mediciano » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:47 pm

Hello and buongiorno to my fellow Classical Monarchists!
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Postby Celritannia » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:54 pm

Mediciano wrote:Hello and buongiorno to my fellow Classical Monarchists!


Evening.

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Postby Chetssaland » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:54 pm

Hello, CMP. As the LDP's previous ambassador to your party is now inactive, I am taking his place. I was part of a small minority of coalition members who was open to a ceremonial monarch, so hopefully I can help better the relations between your party and mine.

God bless the queen or whatever. :p

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Postby Celritannia » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:07 pm

Chetssaland wrote:Hello, CMP. As the LDP's previous ambassador to your party is now inactive, I am taking his place. I was part of a small minority of coalition members who was open to a ceremonial monarch, so hopefully I can help better the relations between your party and mine.

God bless the queen or whatever. :p


How about Lord Princep? :P

Lord Princep of the Aurentine Commonwealth, has a nice ring to it.

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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:42 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Chetssaland wrote:Hello, CMP. As the LDP's previous ambassador to your party is now inactive, I am taking his place. I was part of a small minority of coalition members who was open to a ceremonial monarch, so hopefully I can help better the relations between your party and mine.

God bless the queen or whatever. :p


How about Lord Princep? :P

Lord Princep of the Aurentine Commonwealth, has a nice ring to it.


Autocrat of the Autocracy of Aurentia sounds better in my opinion.
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Postby Diopolis » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:50 pm

Chetssaland wrote:Hello, CMP. As the LDP's previous ambassador to your party is now inactive, I am taking his place. I was part of a small minority of coalition members who was open to a ceremonial monarch, so hopefully I can help better the relations between your party and mine.

God bless the queen or whatever. :p

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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:51 pm

We must purge our party of any Mafia members!
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Postby Mediciano » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:02 pm

Rumostan wrote:We must purge our party of any Mafia members!

Agreed. It appears that they're more common than I originally thought. I'll certainly be keeping a lookout and I suggest others do the same. Hiring a bodyguard, if you can afford it, might also be a prudent option.

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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:04 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Rumostan wrote:We must purge our party of any Mafia members!

Agreed. It appears that they're more common than I originally thought. I'll certainly be keeping a lookout and I suggest others do the same. Hiring a bodyguard, if you can afford it, might also be a prudent option.


The good thing about this is that the police are going to be increasing their presence so there will be less chance for them to kill us.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:59 pm

How do we find out who is a member?
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:49 am

Mediciano wrote:
Rumostan wrote:We must purge our party of any Mafia members!

Agreed. It appears that they're more common than I originally thought. I'll certainly be keeping a lookout and I suggest others do the same. Hiring a bodyguard, if you can afford it, might also be a prudent option.

I have a small regiment dedicated to protecting me, so I ought to be safe. ;)
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:52 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Agreed. It appears that they're more common than I originally thought. I'll certainly be keeping a lookout and I suggest others do the same. Hiring a bodyguard, if you can afford it, might also be a prudent option.

I have a small regiment dedicated to protecting me, so I ought to be safe. ;)

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Postby Diopolis » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:34 am

Rumostan wrote:We must purge our party of any Mafia members!

Indeed. All members of the CMP are hereby barred from joining the Aurentine mafia.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:43 am

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Rumostan wrote:We must purge our party of any Mafia members!

Indeed. All members of the CMP are hereby barred from joining the Aurentine mafia.


That does not help us find out who they are.
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Postby Aurentine Constabularies » Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:45 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Indeed. All members of the CMP are hereby barred from joining the Aurentine mafia.


That does not help us find out who they are.

Or stop them from joining it...

Y'know, because the courts have presumably already banned CMP senators from joining the Mafia - just like every other citizen.
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