Classical Monarchist Party Headquarters [NSG Senate]

[Finium]

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I'm just posting this here to remind you all of how powerful the CMP really is and what can be done with our fellow rightists should our core social conservative principles survive this leadership race.

Our leadership? If we want to be leaders then we need to adhere to those who don't hold to social conservatism just as we should those who value traditional concepts. The New Right is the Right we have to deal with, pretending like the right hasn't evolved will only limit us

[Irredento]

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Red - Communist, dark red - USLP, green - Red-Green, orange - Totally Rad, aqua - Lib Dem, blue - Prog-Con, purple - NPP, yellow - LFP, maroon - CFE, gold - CM, dark grey - NI

I'm just posting this here to remind you all of how powerful the CMP really is and what can be done with our fellow rightists should our core social conservative principles survive this leadership race.

Our leadership? If we want to be leaders then we need to adhere to those who don't hold to social conservatism just as we should those who value traditional concepts. The New Right is the Right we have to deal with, pretending like the right hasn't evolved will only limit us

I was referring to the race for the leadership of this party.

Also, I would rather our party be seen as extremist or even backwards by other parties than abandon our core principles. The CMP was founded as a traditionalist and staunchly social conservative party. If anything, it should be economic issues on which some leeway is given to individual members. To abandon social conservatism is unthinkable to me and I'm honestly surprised that you have so much support as your proposals seem like something that would be far more at home in the Libertarian parties.

[Finium]

Our leadership? If we want to be leaders then we need to adhere to those who don't hold to social conservatism just as we should those who value traditional concepts. The New Right is the Right we have to deal with, pretending like the right hasn't evolved will only limit us

I was referring to the race for the leadership of this party.

Also, I would rather our party be seen as extremist or even backwards by other parties than abandon our core principles. The CMP was founded as a traditionalist and staunchly social conservative party. If anything, it should be economic issues on which some leeway is given to individual members. To abandon social conservatism is unthinkable to me and I'm honestly surprised that you have so much support as your proposals seem like something that would be far more at home in the Libertarian parties.

This is exactly why I'm not voting for myself or any other candidate. I myself do have very libertarian concepts of society and very conservative fiscal views. I'm not running to upend the party, I want the party to decide with some degree of unanimity what our core principles will be. By casting a vote for me I feel that party members can express an interest in defining this party as more libertarian, while a vote for one of the many other candidates will enforce a more rigid interpretation of conservatism. I feel that I should make it clear that as Chair I will make a concerted effort to make us leaders in the Senate and that I am running because to offer the much needed alternative and general consensus on the party's view of social policies.

[Vazdania]

Personally, I like people who vote for themselves...It shows confidence.

[Finium]

Personally, I like people who vote for themselves...It shows confidence.

I do to, but I'm not confident that my leadership is what this party wants or needs. I feel that in this case, none of the candidates should vote, especially since we are offering markedly different visions of the party. I want the party membership as a whole to vote, not the candidates, we only represent two paths you all can take, not two people who will control you.

[Irredento]

It seems that we have three options:

On the left, we have Finium, a libertarian who plans to abandon our unified social conservative stance in order to bring the party's views more in line with the Senate's centrists and libertarians in the interests of more cooperation between parties on shared economic goals.

On the right stands myself, Irredento, a far-right extremist proposing that we become defiantly reactionary, enforce three-line whips on all social issues, found our own militia, and ally ourselves with the far-right, Fascists included, even if this means turning the centrists against us.

In the centre, there is Diopolis, a conservative, offering a more moderate path between the two and to a large extent he wishes to continue running the party in much the same way as Old Tyrannia did before him.

I look forward to seeing which path the party takes. Cast your votes wisely, Senators.

[Azurand]

I'll post Diopolis'/Irredento's propaganda here probably, anything to prevent you from winning, Finium Nothing personal.

[Finium]

I'll post Diopolis'/Irredento's propaganda here probably, anything to prevent you from winning, Finium Nothing personal.

...it's just good business

[Old Tyrannia]

You know how I said that voting for the next Party Chairman would start last night? Yeah, I lied.

Voting begins now. Senator Irredento has helpfully summed up the candidates so that I don't have to, so here are your options:

It seems that we have three options:

On the left, we have Finium, a libertarian who plans to abandon our unified social conservative stance in order to bring the party's views more in line with the Senate's centrists and libertarians in the interests of more cooperation between parties on shared economic goals.

On the right stands myself, Irredento, a far-right extremist proposing that we become defiantly reactionary, enforce three-line whips on all social issues, found our own militia, and ally ourselves with the far-right, Fascists included, even if this means turning the centrists against us.

In the centre, there is Diopolis, a conservative, offering a more moderate path between the two and to a large extent he wishes to continue running the party in much the same way as Old Tyrannia did before him.

I look forward to seeing which path the party takes. Cast your votes wisely, Senators.

Votes should be cast here. Voting will end at 8:00 PM tomorrow night, when I will be online to announce the results. That should leave more than enough time for everyone to cast their vote.

I will begin; I cast my vote for Senator Diopolis, and urge all other members of the party to do the same. I'm sorry, but as a traditionalist and, it must be said, an economic Left-winger who only goes along with fiscal conservatism for the sake of compromise, I cannot under any circumstances support Finium's right-libertarian view of the party's future, a party which I, its founder, would have nothing in common with beyond support for a monarchy.

[Azurand]

We are not the Leftists. We are not the Libertarians. We are not the Anarchist. We are not the Republicans. We are not those who demand the weakening of State. We are not those who seek the change of old way. We are not those who seek to trash religions away. We are the Classical Monarchists. We are the Voice of Social Conservatism! We are the Voice of God, Monarch and State! We are Clear and Justified. We shall away from the Deceitful Republicans. We shall away from those who seek for the destruction of God, Monarch and State! We shall define our way, We are the Different! We are not the enraged Imperialists nor the weak Pacifists! We are the Traditionalists, the Reactionaries, the Counter-Revolutionaries, the Monarchists! We may be hated, insulted, but we are Strong.

By the way, tl;dr I vote for Senator Irredento. This vote may change all time.

[Divitaen]

I believe we should not abandon our traditional principles of this party. I vote for Senator Irredento in this election.

[Rohamistan]

We'll vote for Diopolis.

[New Freedomstan]

Hello! The USLP have formed the Aid Cooperative of Farmers in order to protect the interests of our country's proud farming population. Membership is open to farmers of any political affiliation, and the ACF (while USLP-formed and organisatorially aligned) is politically neutral beyond fighting for the interests of the farmers, and organising the farmers to do so. While I'm fully aware the USLP and the CMP are fundamentally different, I hope farmers of all stripes can unite to fight for our interests.

[Irredento]

USLP

[Finium]

Hello! The USLP have formed the Aid Cooperative of Farmers in order to protect the interests of our country's proud farming population. Membership is open to farmers of any political affiliation, and the ACF (while USLP-formed and organisatorially aligned) is politically neutral beyond fighting for the interests of the farmers, and organising the farmers to do so. While I'm fully aware the USLP and the CMP are fundamentally different, I hope farmers of all stripes can unite to fight for our interests.

I suggest that you resubmit this proposal after our new chair has been elected, there is currently no one with the proper authority to answer you claims beyond the Lord President.

Personally, I would advise against this union, government officials should not create special interest groups aligned with their own parties; it violates a simple respect for democratic process in which the people come to the government with the concerns, not the government trying to invent concerns for the people to support a political agenda.

[Diopolis]

Hello! The USLP have formed the Aid Cooperative of Farmers in order to protect the interests of our country's proud farming population. Membership is open to farmers of any political affiliation, and the ACF (while USLP-formed and organisatorially aligned) is politically neutral beyond fighting for the interests of the farmers, and organising the farmers to do so. While I'm fully aware the USLP and the CMP are fundamentally different, I hope farmers of all stripes can unite to fight for our interests.

I suggest that you resubmit this proposal after our new chair has been elected, there is currently no one with the proper authority to answer you claims beyond the Lord President.

Personally, I would advise against this union, government officials should not create special interest groups aligned with their own parties; it violates a simple respect for democratic process in which the people come to the government with the concerns, not the government trying to invent concerns for the people to support a political agenda.

I agree with Finium on this.

[Irredento]

I decided to create a Monarchist reply to the USLP's recent propaganda videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVuEB9MVWcg

While I was doing this, Finium was joining a communist farmer organisation. Now I'm not about to call him a communist and say you should vote for me as that would be a smear but I'm not saying he's not a communist either. Just keep your eyes open for communist entryism is all I'm saying...

I am joking of course.

[Finium]

I decided to create a Monarchist reply to the USLP's recent propaganda videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVuEB9MVWcg

While I was doing this, Finium was joining a communist farmer organisation. Now I'm not about to call him a communist and say you should vote for me as that would be a smear but I'm not saying he's not a communist either. Just keep your eyes open for communist entryism is all I'm saying...

I am joking of course.

By joining I have actually secured the right to private ownership of property bythe organization, eliminating the need for fear of a communist front forming therein. In exchange, I think that we should consider the strong subsidization of certain services to farmers.

[Diopolis]

I decided to create a Monarchist reply to the USLP's recent propaganda videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVuEB9MVWcg

While I was doing this, Finium was joining a communist farmer organisation. Now I'm not about to call him a communist and say you should vote for me as that would be a smear but I'm not saying he's not a communist either. Just keep your eyes open for communist entryism is all I'm saying...

I am joking of course.

By joining I have actually secured the right to private ownership of property bythe organization, eliminating the need for fear of a communist front forming therein. In exchange, I think that we should consider the strong subsidization of certain services to farmers.

I would oppose farm subsidies.

[Finium]

By joining I have actually secured the right to private ownership of property bythe organization, eliminating the need for fear of a communist front forming therein. In exchange, I think that we should consider the strong subsidization of certain services to farmers.

I would oppose farm subsidies.

I understand that many of us oppose this, but subsidation seems a small price to pay for a national food base and the elimination of communist collectivization movements, if we subsidize as a compromise then we can keep the farmers on the right

[Irredento]

By joining I have actually secured the right to private ownership of property bythe organization, eliminating the need for fear of a communist front forming therein. In exchange, I think that we should consider the strong subsidization of certain services to farmers.

I would oppose farm subsidies.

As would I. Along with this, I'm also against working with a USLP-led organisation no matter how many concessions they offer.

Look at this flag:

Just look at it for a minute. This clearly isn't an organisation of which monarchists should be a part.

[New Freedomstan]

I would oppose farm subsidies.

As would I. Along with this, I'm also against working with a USLP-led organisation no matter how many concessions they offer.

Look at this flag:

Just look at it for a minute. This clearly isn't an organisation of which monarchists should be a part.

A note on the current logo: It is a placeholder. We are currently working on making a more appropriate, politically neutral, logo for the ACF. The ACF is currently led by me, yes, but the USLP no longer holds an organisatorial say over the ACF, and we are looking for an independent spokesperson, as the ACF is simply an organisation for the rights of farmers, and neither communist nor monarchist, nor republican or fascist or any ideology for that matter.

[Finium]

I would oppose farm subsidies.

As would I. Along with this, I'm also against working with a USLP-led organisation no matter how many concessions they offer.

Look at this flag:

Just look at it for a minute. This clearly isn't an organisation of which monarchists should be a part.

By supporting compromise as an emphasis in the AFC, they have decided to officially renounce party-affiliation. I think that Hippo could be asked to draft a nice wheat-based symbol if you really find it that offensive.

[Finium]

On a campaigning note, this is the defining factor between myself and the other two candidates. I am willing to compromise and work together with other organizations for the betterment of our nation and party, while other candidates will openly reject cooperation with other parties without any attempt for compromise or research into what they are rejecting, while I support careful evaluation and compromise in all situations.

[New Freedomstan]

As would I. Along with this, I'm also against working with a USLP-led organisation no matter how many concessions they offer.

Look at this flag:

Just look at it for a minute. This clearly isn't an organisation of which monarchists should be a part.

By supporting compromise as an emphasis in the AFC, they have decided to officially renounce party-affiliation. I think that Hippo could be asked to draft a nice wheat-based symbol if you really find it that offensive.

I've whipped up a new logo, pending approval of the rest of the AFC: