Liberal Democratic Party Headquarters[NSG Senate]

[Geilinor]

I've been noticing that the vast majority of our members haven't been on in some time. This is probably typical of the senate now, but what should we do to get some people to come on again?

TG Campaigns

I've TGed everyone in the party.

[Costa Alegria]

And?

[Geilinor]

And?

To encourage inactive members to return.

[Chetssaland]

Hi everyone. I was inactive for awhile because school got in the way, but I was one of the original members of the party. Anyways I got the TG from Gellinor about coming back, so here I am. If someone could fill me in a little bit that'd be great.

[Costa Alegria]

I am active though.

[Geilinor]

I am active though.

I sent it to everyone.

[Geilinor]

Hi everyone. I was inactive for awhile because school got in the way, but I was one of the original members of the party. Anyways I got the TG from Gellinor about coming back, so here I am. If someone could fill me in a little bit that'd be great.

Welcome back! We recently joined a new coalition because the Progress Coalition fell through. http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=245946 It has libertarian parties in it, but the Progressive-Conservatives and the Totally Rad Party are members as well. We're currently voting on the Government Subdivision Creation Act in the chambers.

[Phocidaea]

Hi everyone. I was inactive for awhile because school got in the way, but I was one of the original members of the party. Anyways I got the TG from Gellinor about coming back, so here I am. If someone could fill me in a little bit that'd be great.

Welcome back! We recently joined a new coalition because the Progress Coalition fell through. http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=245946 It has libertarian parties in it, but the Progressive-Conservatives and the Totally Rad Party are members as well. We're currently voting on the Government Subdivision Creation Act in the chambers.

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You know, I put down this party when I joined because I thought it seemed like a rational centrist sort of thing. I'm not sure what you're doing allying with right-wingers who scream "communism" at the slightest hint of economic regulation.

[Geilinor]

Welcome back! We recently joined a new coalition because the Progress Coalition fell through. http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=245946 It has libertarian parties in it, but the Progressive-Conservatives and the Totally Rad Party are members as well. We're currently voting on the Government Subdivision Creation Act in the chambers.

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You know, I put down this party when I joined because I thought it seemed like a rational centrist sort of thing. I'm not sure what you're doing allying with right-wingers who scream "communism" at the slightest hint of economic regulation.

The Totally Rad Party, a social democratic party to the left of us, is in the new coalition as well.
Platform for coalition:

Universal Credit system
- Universal Healthcare wont be repealed if passed. The reddest red I can give it, and the most staunchly opposed I'll ever be to a social welfare idea.
- Mandatory Open shop
- In order to strike, a secret ballot must be conducted with all union members informed and a simple majority is required at minimum.
- Banned Secondary strikes.
- No violent direct action.
- Strike Breakers allowed. I'm afraid this will weaken unions too much.
- No bossnapping or lock ins.
- Anything that would normally be illegal should be illegal even in case of strike.
- Worker would receive unemployment benefits and the employer may not hire permanent replacements in case of lock outs.
- Large scale Nuclear fission
- Collaboration with ITER
- Meet European emission standards 2050 by 2045
- 70%, 30% renewable (10% wind, 10% biomass, 10% mix) by 2045
- Tax breaks to companies pursuing nuclear and biomass research.
- Tax breaks for investment into nuclear and biomass research
- Public institutes and universities should be encouraged to seek private investors for their research and link with private companies
- Independent commission to determine the fairness of pricing on utilities.
- Free vote on taxation.
- Buses, Ferries, Underground trains, trams and boats prices are set by independent agency who can be told by local authority but can set prices unless it contradicts local authority
- Join European Free Trade Association and the Council of Europe.
- Join UN and its thingies.
- No to EU.
- Support current justice bill (Wolf's)
- Have Switzerland EU relation with EU
- Join most of international organizations See above comment on EU.
- Ministry of justice goes to Progressive Conservatives.
- Ministry of Research goes to CFE.

This platform is by no means final, so changes can still be made. The Progressive-Conservatives, Totally Rad Party, and us, can get our way over the libertarians because they need us, and they know it. We allied with the communists last time, but we didn't have to adopt any communist policy.

[Phocidaea]

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You know, I put down this party when I joined because I thought it seemed like a rational centrist sort of thing. I'm not sure what you're doing allying with right-wingers who scream "communism" at the slightest hint of economic regulation.

The Totally Rad Party, a social democratic party to the left of us, is in the new coalition as well.

Oh?

[I guess living OOC in a country with two parties instead of five million has left me unaccustomed to having frighteningly disparate ideologies banded together in coalitions. After looking up some British politics it's all starting to make sense ]

[Geilinor]

The Totally Rad Party, a social democratic party to the left of us, is in the new coalition as well.

Oh?

[I guess living OOC in a country with two parties instead of five million has left me unaccustomed to having frighteningly disparate ideologies banded together in coalitions. After looking up some British politics it's all starting to make sense ]

Honestly, though, I think the two-party system sucks. We need political reform in the US.

[Phocidaea]

Oh?

[I guess living OOC in a country with two parties instead of five million has left me unaccustomed to having frighteningly disparate ideologies banded together in coalitions. After looking up some British politics it's all starting to make sense ]

Honestly, though, I think the two-party system sucks. We need political reform in the US.

It does suck. But all I'm saying that it's a lot less confusing than having parties that you'd think would be, at least relatively speaking, poles apart in coalitions for mutual benefit.

[And while I don't want to turn this into a full-fledged debate, while I understand the merits of having more parties most of the lesser contenders in the US right now are insane - enviro-lefties, right-libertarians frighteningly frequently bordering on ancaps, and, of course, the "Constitution" party which is a misnomer if I ever saw one,)

[Free South Califas]

The Totally Rad Party, a social democratic party to the left of us, is in the new coalition as well.

Oh?

[I guess living OOC in a country with two parties instead of five million has left me unaccustomed to having frighteningly disparate ideologies banded together in coalitions. After looking up some British politics it's all starting to make sense ]

They joined because they wanted to be in government (can't blame them), they didn't want to ally with USLP (again fair enough, although I'm equally disinclined and have been impressed by the coalition talks), and to push it over the line, LDP joined, making the coalition represent a rather large number of current Senators. However, it was organized by rabid anticommunists explicitly for the purpose of removing communists and socialists from government. LDP and TR have made the coalition's center tone down its language, but its purpose hasn't changed, just its electability. That being said, I'm not positively sure if the coalition agreement still flagrantly violates several key parts of the LDP platform, or only tarnishes it by association.

Either way, I understand where your Party is coming from. If you want to represent your constituents, you seek power, and it made sense to follow the President in that sense. Participating in the President's rebellion and purge is a rather bizarre turn for the LDP, but you do what you gotta do, I guess. I certainly wish the center-and-far-right coalition the best of luck.

On the plus side, your Presidential candidate appears rather less like Joe McCarthy now that he understands calling us "commie foxes" is taken in rather poor taste by the centrists and merely uses his bully pulpit to insult and degrade us on human terms instead: viewtopic.php?p=15046573#p15046573

[Geilinor]

Oh?

[I guess living OOC in a country with two parties instead of five million has left me unaccustomed to having frighteningly disparate ideologies banded together in coalitions. After looking up some British politics it's all starting to make sense ]

They joined because they wanted to be in government (can't blame them), they didn't want to ally with USLP (again fair enough, although I'm equally disinclined and have been impressed by the coalition talks), and to push it over the line, LDP joined, making the coalition represent a rather large number of current Senators. However, it was organized by rabid anticommunists explicitly for the purpose of removing communists

Actually, the LDP only committed to the new coalition when Ainin said that the TR was joining.

[Geilinor]

Just a quick note:

What's the point of staying in the ProgCon?

TR and the PC are looking to form an alliance with the UFL and NCP. That leaves the LDP by themselves.

If you want to see it, FSC, it's here. The TR prompted the LDP to commit. It wasn't the other way around.

[Free South Califas]

Just a quick note:

What's the point of staying in the ProgCon?

TR and the PC are looking to form an alliance with the UFL and NCP. That leaves the LDP by themselves.

If you want to see it, FSC, it's here. The TR prompted the LDP to commit. It wasn't the other way around.

I stand corrected on the chronological order, Senator. All apologies for my imprecision.

[Geilinor]

If you want to see it, FSC, it's here. The TR prompted the LDP to commit. It wasn't the other way around.

I stand corrected on the chronological order, Senator. All apologies for my imprecision.

It's okay.

[Costa Alegria]

Hehe. Talking about multiparty legislatures being a good thing. Oh boy are you lot in for a treat.

[Geilinor]

Hehe. Talking about multiparty legislatures being a good thing. Oh boy are you lot in for a treat.

A lack of variety, with only 2 parties represented in the national legislature, isn't good either. There needs to be at least 3 parties represented, so fewer people have to vote for candidates they dislike. 2 party voting is more likely to be, "Who do I hate the least?" than multiparty voting. With the NSG Senate, everyone can find their own party, rather than just having the lesser of 2 evils. The people of Aurentina have many choices, rather than just 2 viable options.

[Free South Califas]

Range voting would do nicely for this kind of thing, I'm thinking.

[Maklohi Vai]

Hey guys, I'd just like to remind you that we are voting for PM right now, as our coalition has allotted us the PM spot. The candidates are myself and Geilinor, and President Wolfmanne weighed in here. Please vote so we can get a government up and running.

[The Realm of God]

How do you lot feel about the Directory amendment to the Republican Executive Act being debated in the Coffee Shop.

[Maklohi Vai]

How do you lot feel about the Directory amendment to the Republican Executive Act being debated in the Coffee Shop.

I've already let my feelings be known there, but so my party members know, I stand 100% against.

[Chetssaland]

Hi everyone. I was inactive for awhile because school got in the way, but I was one of the original members of the party. Anyways I got the TG from Gellinor about coming back, so here I am. If someone could fill me in a little bit that'd be great.

Welcome back! We recently joined a new coalition because the Progress Coalition fell through. http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=245946 It has libertarian parties in it, but the Progressive-Conservatives and the Totally Rad Party are members as well. We're currently voting on the Government Subdivision Creation Act in the chambers.

Great! Well, looks like a lot has changed since I was last involved. I'm about to go on a skimming marathon through a bunch of different senate threads to try to get a general sense of what the hell is going on.

[Geilinor]

Hey guys, I'd just like to remind you that we are voting for PM right now, as our coalition has allotted us the PM spot. The candidates are myself and Geilinor, and President Wolfmanne weighed in here. Please vote so we can get a government up and running.

PM Elections:
Geilinor:

Maklohi Vai:

If nobody wants to vote, I'll let Maklohi be PM.