Liberal Democratic Party Headquarters[NSG Senate]

[Ainin]

Just a quick note:

What's the point of staying in the ProgCon?

The CP and RG are forming a coalition with the USLP and TR and the PC are looking to form an alliance with the UFL and NCP. That leaves the LDP by themselves.

[Geilinor]

Just a quick note:

What's the point of staying in the ProgCon?

The CP and RG are forming a coalition with the USLP and TR and the PC are looking to form an alliance with the UFL and NCP. That leaves the LDP by themselves.

Then we have to decide which one to join.

[Geilinor]

We have two options. Coalition with TR or coalition with ProgCon. Progress Coalition is done. We'll see who gives us a better deal.

[Geilinor]

New Voting
Center-left coalition(with TR):

Center-right coalition(with Progressive-Conservatives):

Our entry will make them both centrist overall, actually.

[Geilinor]

Just a quick note:

What's the point of staying in the ProgCon?

The CP and RG are forming a coalition with the USLP and TR and the PC are looking to form an alliance with the UFL and NCP. That leaves the LDP by themselves.

The coalition with the PC, UFL, and NCP is offering us 3 ministries and PM. I suppose you could convince us somehow.

[Regnum Dominae]

We have two options. Coalition with TR or coalition with ProgCon. Progress Coalition is done. We'll see who gives us a better deal.

Just a quick note:

What's the point of staying in the ProgCon?

The CP and RG are forming a coalition with the USLP and TR and the PC are looking to form an alliance with the UFL and NCP. That leaves the LDP by themselves.

Ainin's sentence was badly phrased. I'm pretty sure the TR is attempting to work with the PC/UFL coalition. (if you look at the negotiations thread)

[Geilinor]

We have two options. Coalition with TR or coalition with ProgCon. Progress Coalition is done. We'll see who gives us a better deal.

Just a quick note:

What's the point of staying in the ProgCon?

The CP and RG are forming a coalition with the USLP and TR and the PC are looking to form an alliance with the UFL and NCP. That leaves the LDP by themselves.

Ainin's sentence was badly phrased. I'm pretty sure the TR is attempting to work with the PC/UFL coalition. (if you look at the negotiations thread)

Ohhhh. Cancel the vote, our only choice is join the TR-PC coalition.

[Yanalia]

Ainin's sentence was badly phrased. I'm pretty sure the TR is attempting to work with the PC/UFL coalition. (if you look at the negotiations thread)

Ohhhh.

Yes, the current coalitions are the USLP/RG/CP coalition, the PC/UFL coalition, and the Stahlhelm(sp?) Alliance (although the NIFP is apparently considering joining on the PC/UFL coalition).

[Regnum Dominae]

Ohhhh.

Yes, the current coalitions are the USLP/RG/CP coalition, the PC/UFL coalition, and the Stahlhelm(sp?) Alliance (although the NIFP is apparently considering joining on the PC/UFL coalition).

I very much doubt that we would allow the NIFP to join. The Objectivists aren't invited either, and neither are the CMP (although some of the PC wants the CMP to join).

We're trying to keep the extremists out.

[Ainin]

Yes, the current coalitions are the USLP/RG/CP coalition, the PC/UFL coalition, and the Stahlhelm(sp?) Alliance (although the NIFP is apparently considering joining on the PC/UFL coalition).

I very much doubt that we would allow the NIFP to join. The Objectivists aren't invited either, and neither are the CMP (although some of the PC wants the CMP to join).

We're trying to keep the extremists out.

Good.
ProgCon: Far left to centre-right
Result: *insert WTC2 collapse video here*

New Coalition: Centre-left to far-right
would more than likely give the same result.

Centre-right and centre-left together make for a much more reasonable government.

[Geilinor]

We're joining the new coalition with the TR and the ProgCons. The other option is a coalition with the USLP in it.

[Lemanrussland]

We're joining the new coalition with the TR and the ProgCons. The other option is a coalition with the USLP in it.

I had some discussions with them on IRC, and unless they were pulling my leg for a laugh, they are full blown Stalinists (not an exaggeration either, calling for forced labor to bring about "full employment" and the liquidation of "enemies of the proletariat" and such). No way I would ever want the Lib Dems to cooperate with them, especially if they are a major player in a coalition.

[Geilinor]

We're joining the new coalition with the TR and the ProgCons. The other option is a coalition with the USLP in it.

I had some discussions with them on IRC, and unless they were pulling my leg for a laugh, they are full blown Stalinists (not an exaggeration either, calling for forced labor to bring about "full employment" and the liquidation of "enemies of the proletariat" and such). No way I would ever want the Lib Dems to cooperate with them, especially if they are a major player in a coalition.

I know that the USLP is off the edge. You should have seen IRC five minutes ago. I'm betting that the Red-Greens and the Communists will just leave after a bit.

[Regnum Dominae]

I had some discussions with them on IRC, and unless they were pulling my leg for a laugh, they are full blown Stalinists (not an exaggeration either, calling for forced labor to bring about "full employment" and the liquidation of "enemies of the proletariat" and such). No way I would ever want the Lib Dems to cooperate with them, especially if they are a major player in a coalition.

I know that the USLP is off the edge. You should have seen IRC five minutes ago. I'm betting that the Red-Greens and the Communists will just leave after a bit.

Can I see the logs?

[Fulflood]

I know that the USLP is off the edge. You should have seen IRC five minutes ago. I'm betting that the Red-Greens and the Communists will just leave after a bit.

Can I see the logs?

Excellent flag

(yes, I read the conversation)

[Beta Test]

It has occurred to me that three organized coalitions are emerging. The new centrist one, the socialist left with USLP/RG/CP and the one between the NIFP/CMP. However, I'm most sure if either has a majority.

[Glasgia]

I just made a super mega-awesome post about reforming the Progress Coalition: My browser crashed just before I could post. It basicaly boiled down to this:

I'm on the far-left of this party. I'm a socialist. However, I'm a market socialist. My economic views don't fit with any party, but in the Progress Coaliton they didn't conflict with any either. In this new coalition, they would heavily and that's why I will likely leave the Lib Dems if we join a right-wing coalition.

However, if we try and reform the Progress Coalition then we can learn from our mistakes. By accepting the new centrist parties (CSP, NSP, NCP), then we will shift the power in this coalition from left to centre-left. That may convince the P-C to rejoin, leaving us with a majority. If we play our cards right, then we can last another few terms.

[Beta Test]

I just made a super mega-awesome post about reforming the Progress Coalition: My browser crashed just before I could post. It basicaly boiled down to this:

I'm on the far-left of this party. I'm a socialist. However, I'm a market socialist. My economic views don't fit with any party, but in the Progress Coaliton they didn't conflict with any either. In this new coalition, they would heavily and that's why I will likely leave the Lib Dems if we join a right-wing coalition.

However, if we try and reform the Progress Coalition then we can learn from our mistakes. By accepting the new centrist parties (CSP, NSP, NCP), then we will shift the power in this coalition from left to centre-left. That may convince the P-C to rejoin, leaving us with a majority. If we play our cards right, then we can last another few terms.

While I would prefer this coalition to the hypothetical coalition with the CFE, your proposal simply wouldn't have the numbers to form a majority.

[Fulflood]

I just made a super mega-awesome post about reforming the Progress Coalition: My browser crashed just before I could post. It basicaly boiled down to this:

I'm on the far-left of this party. I'm a socialist. However, I'm a market socialist. My economic views don't fit with any party, but in the Progress Coaliton they didn't conflict with any either. In this new coalition, they would heavily and that's why I will likely leave the Lib Dems if we join a right-wing coalition.

However, if we try and reform the Progress Coalition then we can learn from our mistakes. By accepting the new centrist parties (CSP, NSP, NCP), then we will shift the power in this coalition from left to centre-left. That may convince the P-C to rejoin, leaving us with a majority. If we play our cards right, then we can last another few terms.

TR is probably going to join though, but I can still understand your position.

[Glasgia]

I just made a super mega-awesome post about reforming the Progress Coalition: My browser crashed just before I could post. It basicaly boiled down to this:

I'm on the far-left of this party. I'm a socialist. However, I'm a market socialist. My economic views don't fit with any party, but in the Progress Coaliton they didn't conflict with any either. In this new coalition, they would heavily and that's why I will likely leave the Lib Dems if we join a right-wing coalition.

However, if we try and reform the Progress Coalition then we can learn from our mistakes. By accepting the new centrist parties (CSP, NSP, NCP), then we will shift the power in this coalition from left to centre-left. That may convince the P-C to rejoin, leaving us with a majority. If we play our cards right, then we can last another few terms.

While I would prefer this coalition to the hypothetical coalition with the CFE, your proposal simply wouldn't have the numbers to form a majority.

Admittedly not if you include independents. However, the majority of those are inactive and long gone, meaning that we would in practice have a majority.

[Beta Test]

While I would prefer this coalition to the hypothetical coalition with the CFE, your proposal simply wouldn't have the numbers to form a majority.

Admittedly not if you include independents. However, the majority of those are inactive and long gone, meaning that we would in practice have a majority.

Remember the NIFP, Objectivists, ANF and CMP still exist. And the NSP only has 2 members.

[Glasgia]

Admittedly not if you include independents. However, the majority of those are inactive and long gone, meaning that we would in practice have a majority.

Remember the NIFP, Objectivists, ANF and CMP still exist. And the NSP only has 2 members.

I know they exist... With the Progressive-Conservatives, we would have 188 senators. That's on a total of 334 affiliated senators.

[Britcan]

Admittedly not if you include independents. However, the majority of those are inactive and long gone, meaning that we would in practice have a majority.

Remember the NIFP, Objectivists, ANF and CMP still exist. And the NSP only has 2 members.

We now have three, actually.

[Mytannion]

Erm, hello, I'm not yet a senator - though I would indeed like to be at some point - mainly because I'm undecided as to which political party I'd like to join. Now, I largely agree with most of the policies the Liberal Democratic Party support here, however, I'm pretty leftist in terms of my economic policy. Socially, I agree with you guys down to a tee. So would I be acceptable for you? Given I'm probably more of a social democrat rather than a liberal democrat?

I imagine I'd probably be on the left of the party (especially as I have some leanings towards democratic socialism too), but I think the choice is between you guys and the Red-Greens so just wondering what you think really.

[Glasgia]

Erm, hello, I'm not yet a senator - though I would indeed like to be at some point - mainly because I'm undecided as to which political party I'd like to join. Now, I largely agree with most of the policies the Liberal Democratic Party support here, however, I'm pretty leftist in terms of my economic policy. Socially, I agree with you guys down to a tee. So would I be acceptable for you? Given I'm probably more of a social democrat rather than a liberal democrat?

I imagine I'd probably be on the left of the party (especially as I have some leanings towards democratic socialism too), but I think the choice is between you guys and the Red-Greens so just wondering what you think really.

I support very left-wing economic problems, but have managed to fit in well with the party. As long as you are willing to compromise, come and join me on the left of the party.