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[Geilinor]

Why do they think our coalition is right-wing? The LibDems, TR, PC, and NCP basically dominate the coalition.

1. I've been calling it the right coalition since it was just PC-UFL, so I have continued using it.
2. The PC and UFL, both right-wing, wrote the original platform.
3. The coalition is dominated by the PC and UFL parties, I would say, as they took the lead in creating it. and writing the programme. TR and LD joined later, and had less leverage as they hardly had another coalition to join by that point.
4. The CFE, whose platform was written by Hippostania, is a member of the coalition.
5. The farthest right party (CFE) is more right than the farthest left party (TR) is left.
6. Two parties in the coalition support laissez-faire capitalism, while none support socialism.

This is why I think the overall balance of the coalition is to the right.

2.) The Progress Coalition was right-wing? Do you consider everything except socialism right-wing?
3.) TR and LD were part of the PC. Also, we do have leverage in the coalition. We just haven't had to use it yet because the platform is not extreme in either direction. The Liberal Democrats and Totally Rad Party have been granted freedom with our votes on taxes. The Progressive-Conservatives are also a member of the new coalition. The platform is not libertarian.
4.) I don't like Hippo either, especially on General. The CFE isn't his party anymore, he made another one, which he managed to destroy.
5.) Would the CFE be supporting public education and writing a Universal Credit Act, which is arguably the most efficient and equal welfare system when it comes to simplicity and the amount of benefits paid out.
6.) 3 parties in the coalition(PC, LD, and TR)support a mixed market economy. It might not be socialism, but that doesn't automatically make it far-right.

[Yanalia]

1. I've been calling it the right coalition since it was just PC-UFL, so I have continued using it.
2. The PC and UFL, both right-wing, wrote the original platform.
3. The coalition is dominated by the PC and UFL parties, I would say, as they took the lead in creating it. and writing the programme. TR and LD joined later, and had less leverage as they hardly had another coalition to join by that point.
4. The CFE, whose platform was written by Hippostania, is a member of the coalition.
5. The farthest right party (CFE) is more right than the farthest left party (TR) is left.
6. Two parties in the coalition support laissez-faire capitalism, while none support socialism.

This is why I think the overall balance of the coalition is to the right.

2.) The Progress Coalition was right-wing? Do you consider everything except socialism right-wing?
3.) TR and LD were part of the PC. Also, we do have leverage in the coalition. We just haven't had to use it yet because the platform is not extreme in either direction. The Liberal Democrats and Totally Rad Party have been granted freedom with our votes on taxes. The Progressive-Conservatives are also a member of the new coalition. The platform is not libertarian.
4.) I don't like Hippo either, especially on General. The CFE isn't his party anymore, he made another one, which he managed to destroy.
5.) Would the CFE be supporting public education and writing a Universal Credit Act, which is arguably the most efficient and equal welfare system when it comes to simplicity and the amount of benefits paid out.
6.) 3 parties in the coalition(PC, LD, and TR)support a mixed market economy. It might not be socialism, but that doesn't automatically make it far-right.

2. Sorry, by PC I mean Progressive-Conservatives.
3. I never said the platform was extreme. It is center-right.
4. The new CFE is everything the old one was, minus the nationalism Hippo added. The platform is still emphatically anti-left and insults the left repeatedly.
5. Read the CFE platform. Tell me that's not extreme-right.
6. Laissez-faire capitalism in the right is analogous to socialism on the left, in terms of extremeness. The farthest right are an-caps, while the farthest left are communists.

I am not claiming your coalition is far-right. I am claiming it is center-right, allowing the use of the term "right" to describe it.

[Geilinor]

2.) The Progress Coalition was right-wing? Do you consider everything except socialism right-wing?
3.) TR and LD were part of the PC. Also, we do have leverage in the coalition. We just haven't had to use it yet because the platform is not extreme in either direction. The Liberal Democrats and Totally Rad Party have been granted freedom with our votes on taxes. The Progressive-Conservatives are also a member of the new coalition. The platform is not libertarian.
4.) I don't like Hippo either, especially on General. The CFE isn't his party anymore, he made another one, which he managed to destroy.
5.) Would the CFE be supporting public education and writing a Universal Credit Act, which is arguably the most efficient and equal welfare system when it comes to simplicity and the amount of benefits paid out.
6.) 3 parties in the coalition(PC, LD, and TR)support a mixed market economy. It might not be socialism, but that doesn't automatically make it far-right.

2. Sorry, by PC I mean Progressive-Conservatives.
3. I never said the platform was extreme. It is center-right.
4. The new CFE is everything the old one was, minus the nationalism Hippo added. The platform is still emphatically anti-left and insults the left repeatedly.
5. Read the CFE platform. Tell me that's not extreme-right.
6. Laissez-faire capitalism in the right is analogous to socialism on the left, in terms of extremeness. The farthest right are an-caps, while the farthest left are communists.

I am not claiming your coalition is far-right. I am claiming it is center-right, allowing the use of the term "right" to describe it.

We will naturally have different opinions on the use of the term "right". The Progressive-Conservatives are centrist, from my point of view. LD is social liberal, TR is a bit farther center-left, being social democratic. CFE is libertarian, LFP is libertarian. 1 centrist party+2 center-left+2 libertarian equals somewhere around center(from my perspective, at least).

[Ainin]

Heads-up, the PM confirmation vote has started.

[Osea 767]

I have recently set up the Association for the Defence of the Republic.

Link

Given the recent monarchy proposal, it’s purpose is fairly obvious. I wish to invite all members of this party to join it. In addition, I wish to form a tripartite leadership. Your party and the Red-Greens can each select someone to take up a position in our leading council, if you should wish to do so.

[Fulflood]

Heads-up, the PM confirmation vote has started.

Do we need to TG people to vote Geil, or will it flatten out?

[Great Nepal]

Heads-up, the PM confirmation vote has started.

Do we need to TG people to vote Geil, or will it flatten out?

Left have launched massive TG campaign, similar to that of WEA. We all need to launch similar massive TG campaigns.

[Maklohi Vai]

I have recently set up the Association for the Defence of the Republic.

Link

Given the recent monarchy proposal, it’s purpose is fairly obvious. I wish to invite all members of this party to join it. In addition, I wish to form a tripartite leadership. Your party and the Red-Greens can each select someone to take up a position in our leading council, if you should wish to do so.

I will join, but I think membership should not be closed to only one member of this party.

[Chetssaland]

Congrats to Geilinor (even though the process isn't over yet). A well-deserved appointment if you ask me.

Also, it was said earlier that the party is anti-space exploration. I don't know if that's correct, but if it is, I'd certainly like to see that change a little bit.

EDIT: Ahh, I see the process really IS far from over. That's disappointing that the two extremes banded together rather than accept someone from the middle.

[Maklohi Vai]

Also, it was said earlier that the party is anti-space exploration. I don't know if that's correct, but if it is, I'd certainly like to see that change a little bit.

I think we reneged on that a while ago. We certainly support it, even if it isn't a goal.

[Geilinor]

Also, it was said earlier that the party is anti-space exploration. I don't know if that's correct, but if it is, I'd certainly like to see that change a little bit.

Nobody in the party certainly said that. It isn't explicitly stated in the platform, but it doesn't make us anti-space exploration. I'll put it in the platform. What we said we were opposed to was putting weapons in space.

[Maklohi Vai]

Geil, are you ok with the Stalhelm Alliance joining the coalition? I would highly advise against it.

[Chetssaland]

Also, it was said earlier that the party is anti-space exploration. I don't know if that's correct, but if it is, I'd certainly like to see that change a little bit.

Nobody in the party certainly said that. It isn't explicitly stated in the platform, but it doesn't make us anti-space exploration. I'll put it in the platform. What we said we were opposed to was putting weapons in space.

Understood, and I agree that space should not be weaponized. As if our tiny nation would have the means to do that anyway.

[Geilinor]

Nobody in the party certainly said that. It isn't explicitly stated in the platform, but it doesn't make us anti-space exploration. I'll put it in the platform. What we said we were opposed to was putting weapons in space.

Understood, and I agree that space should not be weaponized. As if our tiny nation would have the means to do that anyway.

Aurentina's population was agreed to be about 40 million, about California's population and between Spain and Canada. Not that tiny, but still not large enough to weaponize space.

[Beta Test]

Ok people, what are our priorities? Assuming the Stanhelm Alliance joins the coalition, we may have to start over with the Ministry selection.

[Maklohi Vai]

Ok people, what are our priorities? Assuming the Stanhelm Alliance joins the coalition, we may have to start over with the Ministry selection.

Foreign Affairs and Health, with Education and Transport as backups. How does that sound?

[Beta Test]

Ok people, what are our priorities? Assuming the Stanhelm Alliance joins the coalition, we may have to start over with the Ministry selection.

Foreign Affairs and Health, with Education and Transport as backups. How does that sound?

As far as I know, Reform want Education as a non-negotiable.

[Maklohi Vai]

Foreign Affairs and Health, with Education and Transport as backups. How does that sound?

As far as I know, Reform want Education as a non-negotiable.

Hmm, maybe Commerce then?

[Regnum Dominae]

As far as I know, Reform want Education as a non-negotiable.

Hmm, maybe Commerce then?

NCP and LFP have both already claimed it. We are trying to resolve it between ourselves.

[Beta Test]

As far as I know, Reform want Education as a non-negotiable.

Hmm, maybe Commerce then?

Even though I had nothing to do with the Commerce bill, I was one of the first people to point out the fact there was no Commerce Ministry in the original Act.

[Chetssaland]

Understood, and I agree that space should not be weaponized. As if our tiny nation would have the means to do that anyway.

Aurentina's population was agreed to be about 40 million, about California's population and between Spain and Canada. Not that tiny, but still not large enough to weaponize space.

40 million? We're a tiny island in the Mediterranean, there's no way we would fit California into that.

[Maklohi Vai]

Hmm, maybe Commerce then?

NCP and LFP have both already claimed it. We are trying to resolve it between ourselves.

I guess not then. Nobody ever wants Culture, so we could take that.

[Chetssaland]

Hmm, maybe Commerce then?

NCP and LFP have both already claimed it. We are trying to resolve it between ourselves.

I don't think it's a good thing that those two claimed it. They are both libertarian, correct?

[Fulflood]

NCP and LFP have both already claimed it. We are trying to resolve it between ourselves.

I don't think it's a good thing that those two claimed it. They are both libertarian, correct?

The NCP's yer average centre-right party. They're not noticeably libertarian from what I can see.