Progressive-Conservative Party Headquarters [NSG Senate]

[Radiatia]

In regards to Pantalleria's attempts to negotiate with the Communists, I don't think we should bother with them, as I said even before Pantalleria began talking with them. It is a waste of time; they aren't going to compromise anytime soon.

We're currently negotiating with the Liberal Democrats.

And to be honest the only real difference between us and the Lib Dems is that LGBT rights are part of their manifesto, and they support a social safety hammock rather than a net.

But yes, forget the Communists, forget the Left Alliance and forget the Red-Greens.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

In regards to Pantalleria's attempts to negotiate with the Communists, I don't think we should bother with them, as I said even before Pantalleria began talking with them. It is a waste of time; they aren't going to compromise anytime soon.

We're currently negotiating with the Liberal Democrats.

And to be honest the only real difference between us and the Lib Dems is that LGBT rights are part of their manifesto, and they support a social safety hammock rather than a net.

But yes, forget the Communists, forget the Left Alliance and forget the Red-Greens.

Only the Communists at the moment have a headquarters, therefore it shall be quite unpredictable on what they shall vote on the resolution....

[Radiatia]

We're currently negotiating with the Liberal Democrats.

And to be honest the only real difference between us and the Lib Dems is that LGBT rights are part of their manifesto, and they support a social safety hammock rather than a net.

But yes, forget the Communists, forget the Left Alliance and forget the Red-Greens.

Only the Communists at the moment have a headquarters, therefore it shall be quite unpredictable on what they shall vote on the resolution....

Actually it's not, in fact it's pretty obvious they won't support us. The only ones likely to support us on tax are the liberal democrats, the libertarians, maybe the monarchists and maybe that nationalist one.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Only the Communists at the moment have a headquarters, therefore it shall be quite unpredictable on what they shall vote on the resolution....

Actually it's not, in fact it's pretty obvious they won't support us. The only ones likely to support us on tax are the liberal democrats, the libertarians, maybe the monarchists and maybe that nationalist one.

I'm working on the Monarchists, unfortunately their chairman is not available...

[Subramani]

I understand. That was a preliminary compromise, because it seems that we're going to have to compromise with the Communists...

I don't think we should have to compromise with the communists. In fact on taxation we'd probably have an easier time working with the Libertarians or the right-wing parties.

However the 35% cap is just an idea, and I'd like to hear what everyone thinks of it. Personally I'd prefer to cap it at a low rate as a way of basically compromising between Keynesians and Supply-side economics advocates.

Also, just as a reminder to all Senators, this is the next bill that will be debated in the chamber.

I'm thinking of calling this one a Single-line Whip in favour. Members are advised to vote for it, but certainly don't have to.

I will follow the advice of our chairman and vote for this bill.

[Geilinor]

We're currently negotiating with the Liberal Democrats.

And to be honest the only real difference between us and the Lib Dems is that LGBT rights are part of their manifesto, and they support a social safety hammock rather than a net.

But yes, forget the Communists, forget the Left Alliance and forget the Red-Greens.

Only the Communists at the moment have a headquarters, therefore it shall be quite unpredictable on what they shall vote on the resolution....

Actually, the Liberal Democrats have a headquarters. (OOC: if I can peep in on your discussion.)

[Othelos]

We're currently negotiating with the Liberal Democrats.

And to be honest the only real difference between us and the Lib Dems is that LGBT rights are part of their manifesto, and they support a social safety hammock rather than a net.

But yes, forget the Communists, forget the Left Alliance and forget the Red-Greens.

Only the Communists at the moment have a headquarters, therefore it shall be quite unpredictable on what they shall vote on the resolution....

Red-Greens HQ
Lib Dems HQ
LFP HQ

[Bolaly]

I suggest that we do have a leadership election.

[Wolfmanne]

I suggest that we do have a leadership election.

^ I second this.

[Othelos]

We have to defeat Benomia's awful tax proposal.

[Mike the Progressive]

I suggest that we do have a leadership election.

^ I second this.

I third it.

[Mike the Progressive]

We have to defeat Benomia's awful tax proposal.

Agreed. It's truly atrocious. I think there's a place for a progressive tax bracket, where everybody contributes, but his proposal would be disastrous...for everybody, rich and poor...

[Othelos]

^ I second this.

I third it.

I fourth the leadership election.

We have to defeat Benomia's awful tax proposal.

Agreed. It's truly atrocious. I think there's a place for a progressive tax bracket, where everybody contributes, but his proposal would be disastrous...for everybody, rich and poor...

Agreed.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

We must do everything in our power to destroy their tax proposal, for it is not only unfair, but it also incentivises a welfare state, which will make even privatised enterprises inefficient and the economy will slow down. Also we must finish drafting our own tax proposal for the good of the people...

[Mike the Progressive]

We must do everything in our power to destroy their tax proposal, for it is not only unfair, but it also incentivises a welfare state, which will make even privatised enterprises inefficient and the economy will slow down. Also we must finish drafting our own tax proposal for the good of the people...

Aye.

[Bolaly]

What other parties do we have on board our tax proposal?

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

What other parties do we have on board our tax proposal?

Do we even have a tax proposal yet?

[Bolaly]

We have an idea of what it would look like.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Hmm... So who is running for party leader?

[Mike the Progressive]

What other parties do we have on board our tax proposal?

The NPP might be a potential partner, they have a general outline here: viewtopic.php?p=14021167#p14021167

I'm talking with their chairman at the moment over working together on a tax bill.

[Denecaep]

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"The most radical revolutionary will become a conservative the day after the revolution." - Hannah Arendt

[Geilinor]

I have a tax proposal for your party, if you want to think on it.
0-15k: 0%
16k-50k: 10%
51k-100k: 20%
101k-500k: 30%
501k+: 35%
1 million+: 40%

If I make the 35% rate part of 30%, even the Libertarians have said they might support it to keep out Communist proposals.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

I have a tax proposal for your party, if you want to think on it.
0-15k: 0%
16k-50k: 10%
51k-100k: 20%
101k-500k: 30%
501k+: 35%
1 million+: 40%

If I make the 35% rate part of 30%, even the Libertarians have said they might support it to keep out Communist proposals.

0%? That is unacceptable, all citizens no matter what their current social position is, is liable to pay the Government a tax, something, anything to make it fair.

[Geilinor]

I have a tax proposal for your party, if you want to think on it.
0-15k: 0%
16k-50k: 10%
51k-100k: 20%
101k-500k: 30%
501k+: 35%
1 million+: 40%

If I make the 35% rate part of 30%, even the Libertarians have said they might support it to keep out Communist proposals.

0%? That is unacceptable, all citizens no matter what their current social position is, is liable to pay the Government a tax, something, anything to make it fair.

I have a possible sales tax too, but I left it out to make it more agreeable to the leftist parties.
Sales Taxes:
Nonessential services: 7.25%
Gasoline: 2.50%
Food, water, utilities: 0.00%
Publications, admission tickets to cultural events: 3.50%

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

0%? That is unacceptable, all citizens no matter what their current social position is, is liable to pay the Government a tax, something, anything to make it fair.

I have a possible sales tax too, but I left it out to make it more agreeable to the leftist parties.
Sales Taxes:
Nonessential services: 7.25%
Gasoline: 2.50%
Food, water, utilities: 0.00%
Publications, admission tickets to cultural events: 3.50%

No compromise shall be made unless the other parties are willing to agree on a tax to the poor, even if it is just .5% it doesn't matter, they are liable to pay for the services they will require.