NSG Senate Coffee Shop (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[Fulflood]

Anti-Capital Punishment Act

Urgency: Moderate

Drafted by: Arglorand

Co-Sponsors: The Realm of God

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The government of our nation,

AWARE that as of yet we have no laws concerning capital punishment,

BELIEVING that such a situation is unacceptable,

MAINTAINS that no matter how great or small the crime, capital punishment is an archaic and brutal custom that must not be given precedent or legality in modern law. Capital punishment is a doctrine that forbids our criminals the chance to rehabilitation and reduces the tools of law to mere tools of revenge. As such, our government MANDATES that capital punishment in all its forms must be forbidden and hereby outlaws capital punishment in our nation entirely.

Yes.

[Kouralia]

Do we have an act on policing?

Nein. We're to busy trying to legalize the already legal right to an abortion.

I mean, is there an act in the queue or anything? If not then I may commence drafting one.

[Evraim]

It isn't 100% certain that the perpetrator will be the party actually convicted.

It's a bit easier to correct an injustice if someone's in prison than if they're dead, Senator.

Death abolishes justice.

Nein. We're to busy trying to legalize the already legal right to an abortion.

I mean, is there an act in the queue or anything? If not then I may commence drafting one.

Please, do. I'm working to make murder illegal at the moment.

[Ceannairceach]

Yes.

Oh, I'll fourth this, by the way.

[Britcan]

Anti-Capital Punishment Act

Urgency: Moderate

Drafted by: Arglorand

Co-Sponsors: The Realm of God

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The government of our nation,

AWARE that as of yet we have no laws concerning capital punishment,

BELIEVING that such a situation is unacceptable,

MAINTAINS that no matter how great or small the crime, capital punishment is an archaic and brutal custom that must not be given precedent or legality in modern law. Capital punishment is a doctrine that forbids our criminals the chance to rehabilitation and reduces the tools of law to mere tools of revenge. As such, our government MANDATES that capital punishment in all its forms must be forbidden and hereby outlaws capital punishment in our nation entirely.

I fully support this.

[Yankee Empire]

It's a bit easier to correct an injustice if someone's in prison than if they're dead, Senator.

Death abolishes justice.

What is Justice?

[Arglorand]

Senators, remind me again, if you will, how many supporters does a bill need to be added to the queue?

[Finium]

Senators, remind me again, if you will, how many supporters does a bill need to be added to the queue?

5

[Vazdania]

Senators, remind me again, if you will, how many supporters does a bill need to be added to the queue?

5

[Yankee Empire]

A situation like that would be unfortunate, but that is the chance we take with a modern justice system. It isn't 100% certain that the perpetrator will be the party actually convicted.

Then, in the interest of protecting the innocent, we must outlaw capital punishment. The criminals will still be punished, but in a civil manner that does not result in the death of innocents.

People can die waiting in prison, peoples lifes can be wasted away in prison.

What is this morally for? What does it accomplish?

[Arglorand]

Senators, remind me again, if you will, how many supporters does a bill need to be added to the queue?

5

Good. Then we can add the Anti-Capital Punishment Act bill to the queue.

[Great Nepal]

Anti-Capital Punishment Act

Urgency: Moderate

Drafted by: Arglorand

Co-Sponsors: The Realm of God

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The government of our nation,

AWARE that as of yet we have no laws concerning capital punishment,

BELIEVING that such a situation is unacceptable,

MAINTAINS that no matter how great or small the crime, capital punishment is an archaic and brutal custom that must not be given precedent or legality in modern law. Capital punishment is a doctrine that forbids our criminals the chance to rehabilitation and reduces the tools of law to mere tools of revenge. As such, our government MANDATES that capital punishment in all its forms must be forbidden and hereby outlaws capital punishment in our nation entirely.

I must request that provision to be added, so as to give PoW's and terrorists exemption from this legislation.

[Evraim]

Death abolishes justice.

What is Justice?

Several people with a gun coercing another person, who may or may not have a gun, into accepting some penalty for doing something they dislike.

[Yankee Empire]

I fully support this.

I Reject this wholeheartedly!

[Kouralia]

I must request that provision to be added, so as to give PoW's and terrorists exemption from this legislation.

I urgently put forward that this amendment does not occur.

[Zweite Alaje]

And should an innocent man be "put down" under a capital punishment, Senator? What then? Apologize to their family and skip on with our more base tendencies?

One may also argue, Senator, that "putting down" also qualifies as murder, thus rendering our law no better than the criminals.

Our law must rise above the common criminal, not stoop to their level.

And that would be an incorrect comparison Senator. The intent of the murderer and the state have of opposing effects. A murder's actions are a danger to public safety, the state's action of execution permanently eliminates a dangerous individual.

[Arglorand]

I must request that provision to be added, so as to give PoW's and terrorists exemption from this legislation.

I urgently put forward that this amendment does not occur.

And I would prefer that it does not.

[Britcan]

I must request that provision to be added, so as to give PoW's and terrorists exemption from this legislation.

You intend to kill Prisoners of War?

[Great Nepal]

I must request that provision to be added, so as to give PoW's and terrorists exemption from this legislation.

You intend to kill Prisoners of War?

No, however it would be an threat which could be levied to gain intelligence.

[Evraim]

I must request that provision to be added, so as to give PoW's and terrorists exemption from this legislation.

I urgently put forward that this amendment does not occur.

I urgently put forward an amendment that I can personally act as the government's executioner. Sorry, I meant terminator.

*Austrian accent*

Also, I oppose on the grounds that the death penalty is totally badass.

[Arglorand]

You intend to kill Prisoners of War?

No, however it would be an threat which could be levied to gain intelligence.

I must point out to the Honorable Senator that until further notice there is no legislation on torture, which could also be used as a threat.

[Ceannairceach]

You intend to kill Prisoners of War?

No, however it would be an threat which could be levied to gain intelligence.

This is a civil nation, Senator. Prisoners of war who have surrendered peacefully should be treated honorably.

[Great Nepal]

No, however it would be an threat which could be levied to gain intelligence.

I must point out to the Honorable Senator that until further notice there is no legislation on torture, which could also be used as a threat.

I am pretty sure, such legislation will be passed and I will support such act without exclusion clause.

[Ceannairceach]

One may also argue, Senator, that "putting down" also qualifies as murder, thus rendering our law no better than the criminals.

Our law must rise above the common criminal, not stoop to their level.

And that would be an incorrect comparison Senator. The intent of the murderer and the state have of opposing effects. A murder's actions are a danger to public safety, the state's action of execution permanently eliminates a dangerous individual.

And any innocents who have been wrongly accused and convicted.

[Great Nepal]

No, however it would be an threat which could be levied to gain intelligence.

This is a civil nation, Senator. Killing prisoners of war who have surrendered peacefully should be treated honorably.

We could do this by issuing internal memo to disallow killing however for intelligence purposes, we must have such clause.