NSG Senate Coffee Shop (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[Kouralia]

I'm a RL Monarchist.

Wow.

I can cuss and call them pig-dog capitlolists like the rest of 'em!

EDIT: Do we have any legislation on Trade Unions?

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Wow.

I can cuss and call them pig-dog capitlolists like the rest of 'em!

EDIT: Do we have any legislation on Trade Unions?

I think that might be coming up for debate soon with the Worker Protection Act (or a name similar to that)

[Britcan]

There has been some support in the Totally Rad party for making the tit the national bird and I was wondering what my fellow senators would think of editing the proposed National Symbols Act to include making this adorable creature our national bird. Would people support this?

[Kouralia]

There has been some support in the Totally Rad party for making the tit the national bird and I was wondering what my fellow senators would think of editing the proposed National Symbols Act to include making this adorable creature our national bird. Would people support this?

Then change your name to the Tits and Redheads party again?

[Britcan]

There has been some support in the Totally Rad party for making the tit the national bird and I was wondering what my fellow senators would think of editing the proposed National Symbols Act to include making this adorable creature our national bird. Would people support this?

Then change your name to the Tits and Redheads party again?

I'm sure we would but apparently it's an offensive party name.

[CTALNH]

Yes

[Ceannairceach]

Political equality dictates more qualified person be denied vote due to some arbitrary number?

No, it gives advantage based on knowledge rather than arbitrary number.

No, it dictates that all, regardless of ability and means, may have the right to vote on equal terms.

knowledge that will more often than not be in the hands of the elite.

[Great Nepal]

Political equality dictates more qualified person be denied vote due to some arbitrary number?

No, it gives advantage based on knowledge rather than arbitrary number.

No, it dictates that all, regardless of ability and means, may have the right to vote on equal terms.

So, everyone must be able to vote rather than based on arbitrary number. I would be fine with that.

knowledge that will more often than not be in the hands of the elite.

Knowledge must be cornerstone that society is built upon and who has said knowledge is not relevant, only thing relevant is indivudal has that knowledge.

[Othelos]

That's mostly because you're also in the USLP. ;-)

Also probably because I am a RL Stalinist.

What's your opinion on gulags?

[Ceannairceach]

So, everyone must be able to vote rather than based on arbitrary number. I would be fine with that.

Knowledge must be cornerstone that society is built upon and who has said knowledge is not relevant, only thing relevant is indivudal has that knowledge.

Children are, on average, less politically aware than adults. Also, it means that, in an effort to swing the vote, a party can have many children to increase their voting numbers. Also, how would a baby vote? Would it pass to their parents to split? Or what? The idea is riddled with holes.

That is what leads to aristocracy and oligarchy, Senator, the cornerstones of tyranny.

[Evraim]

What resolution is on the Senate floor at the moment? Everything is chaos...

Also, when are we going to debate this resolution... It isn't on the list, and yet it was sent to the Senate floor a long, long time ago.

Provisional Criminal Code

Urgency: Paramount

Drafted By: Evraim

Co-Sponsors: Mike the Progressive, Ziegenhain, The Realm of God, Finium, Imperiatom, Soldati senza confini

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The government of our yet to be named nation:

AWARE: that a state of terror has paralyzed the nation

FRUSTRATED: with the persistent inaction and lethargia of the Senate in addressing the numerous violent acts perpetrated on a daily basis against citizens who presently lack legal recourse

BELIEVING: that certain acts; such as: murder, manslaughter, sexual assault, child molestation, possession of child pornography, battery, assault, slander, libel, harassment, arson, theft, fraud, vandalism, reckless endangerment, and criminal neglect contribute to the dysfunctional character of our society and that perpetrators of such acts should be held accountable in the eyes of the law

DEFINING:

Murder: as the premeditated killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Manslaughter: as the unintentional killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Sexual Assault: as lewd or sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual who has not granted his or her consent to such acts; this definition encompasses rape among of things and should not be interpreted to exclude any offenses of a sexual nature, regardless of the relative severity of the acts in question

Child Molestation: as sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual under the age of seventeen by an individual who has attained at least seventeen years

Possession of Child Pornography: as holding or possessing pornographic materials, or images and words designed to incite sexual arousal, which portray or depict at least one or more individuals under the age of seventeen

Battery: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment of physical force against another individual resulting in or intended to result in injury, whether with or without a weapon

Assault: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment or threat of employment of physical force against another individual, whether intended to result in injury or not

Slander: as spoken untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Libel: as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Harassment: as repetitive and persistent behaviors, gestures, or words which perturb, upset, or discomfit another individual to the point where they suffer mental harm

Arson: as the deliberate or wrongful igniting of a fire which endangers or destroys property, life, or well-being, either of an individual or the state

Theft: as the unlawful and nonconsensual acquisition of property through coercion

Fraud: as the unlawful acquisition of property, capital, or favors, which would otherwise be nonconsensual, through the use of guile

Vandalism: as the wanton destruction or defacing of another individual's property

Reckless Endangerment: as any action taken or behavior adopted without regard to the impact of one's actions on others, which could cause immediate and pressing concern for individual or public safety

Criminal Neglect: as the abandonment of an individual under the age of seventeen or a dependent, whether temporary of conclusive, which endangers the physical, mental, or emotional well-being of the minor or dependent in question

MANDATING: that persons charged with any of the aforementioned crimes shall henceforth be detained and imprisoned until an independent judiciary capable of hearing their case shall be established

STIPULATING: that this resolution, allowing for the indefinite detention of accused persons, shall be rendered null and void upon the creation of an independent judiciary responsible for trying accused persons together with the passage of a comprehensible criminal code of justice

OBLIGATING: all branches of the government to ensure that accused persons receive a fair trial by a jury of their peers and with access to legal counsel

HEREBY ESTABLISHES A TEMPORARY CRIMINAL CODE OF JUSTICE

[Vazdania]

What resolution is on the Senate floor at the moment? Everything is chaos...

Also, when are we going to debate this resolution... It isn't on the list, and yet it was sent to the Senate floor a long, long time ago.

Provisional Criminal Code

Urgency: Paramount

Drafted By: Evraim

Co-Sponsors: Mike the Progressive, Ziegenhain, The Realm of God, Finium, Imperiatom, Soldati senza confini

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The government of our yet to be named nation:

AWARE: that a state of terror has paralyzed the nation

FRUSTRATED: with the persistent inaction and lethargia of the Senate in addressing the numerous violent acts perpetrated on a daily basis against citizens who presently lack legal recourse

BELIEVING: that certain acts; such as: murder, manslaughter, sexual assault, child molestation, possession of child pornography, battery, assault, slander, libel, harassment, arson, theft, fraud, vandalism, reckless endangerment, and criminal neglect contribute to the dysfunctional character of our society and that perpetrators of such acts should be held accountable in the eyes of the law

DEFINING:

Murder: as the premeditated killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Manslaughter: as the unintentional killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Sexual Assault: as lewd or sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual who has not granted his or her consent to such acts; this definition encompasses rape among of things and should not be interpreted to exclude any offenses of a sexual nature, regardless of the relative severity of the acts in question

Child Molestation: as sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual under the age of seventeen by an individual who has attained at least seventeen years

Possession of Child Pornography: as holding or possessing pornographic materials, or images and words designed to incite sexual arousal, which portray or depict at least one or more individuals under the age of seventeen

Battery: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment of physical force against another individual resulting in or intended to result in injury, whether with or without a weapon

Assault: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment or threat of employment of physical force against another individual, whether intended to result in injury or not

Slander: as spoken untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Libel: as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Harassment: as repetitive and persistent behaviors, gestures, or words which perturb, upset, or discomfit another individual to the point where they suffer mental harm

Arson: as the deliberate or wrongful igniting of a fire which endangers or destroys property, life, or well-being, either of an individual or the state

Theft: as the unlawful and nonconsensual acquisition of property through coercion

Fraud: as the unlawful acquisition of property, capital, or favors, which would otherwise be nonconsensual, through the use of guile

Vandalism: as the wanton destruction or defacing of another individual's property

Reckless Endangerment: as any action taken or behavior adopted without regard to the impact of one's actions on others, which could cause immediate and pressing concern for individual or public safety

Criminal Neglect: as the abandonment of an individual under the age of seventeen or a dependent, whether temporary of conclusive, which endangers the physical, mental, or emotional well-being of the minor or dependent in question

MANDATING: that persons charged with any of the aforementioned crimes shall henceforth be detained and imprisoned until an independent judiciary capable of hearing their case shall be established

STIPULATING: that this resolution, allowing for the indefinite detention of accused persons, shall be rendered null and void upon the creation of an independent judiciary responsible for trying accused persons together with the passage of a comprehensible criminal code of justice

OBLIGATING: all branches of the government to ensure that accused persons receive a fair trial by a jury of their peers and with access to legal counsel

HEREBY ESTABLISHES A TEMPORARY CRIMINAL CODE OF JUSTICE

This bill will need to go to the end of the Queue.

[Evraim]

This bill will need to go to the end of the Queue.

That makes no sense. Who ever compiled the queue either ignored the motions that would have seen this resolution placed close to the front or forgot about the resolution completely. I would like to compose a revised list that includes EVERY resolution that received enough support to reach the queue in order of when they attained this accomplishment. Otherwise, we're picking and choosing which bills will be voted on based on the preferences or failings of the people who compose the list.

Also, what are we discussing in the Senate? Has the Republican bill passed yet?

[Irredento]

Also probably because I am a RL Stalinist.

I'm a RL Monarchist.

Hey, me too. I bet I just blew your mind with this confession.

[Fulflood]

What resolution is on the Senate floor at the moment? Everything is chaos...

Also, when are we going to debate this resolution... It isn't on the list, and yet it was sent to the Senate floor a long, long time ago.

Provisional Criminal Code

Urgency: Paramount

Drafted By: Evraim

Co-Sponsors: Mike the Progressive, Ziegenhain, The Realm of God, Finium, Imperiatom, Soldati senza confini

---

The government of our yet to be named nation:

AWARE: that a state of terror has paralyzed the nation

FRUSTRATED: with the persistent inaction and lethargia of the Senate in addressing the numerous violent acts perpetrated on a daily basis against citizens who presently lack legal recourse

BELIEVING: that certain acts; such as: murder, manslaughter, sexual assault, child molestation, possession of child pornography, battery, assault, slander, libel, harassment, arson, theft, fraud, vandalism, reckless endangerment, and criminal neglect contribute to the dysfunctional character of our society and that perpetrators of such acts should be held accountable in the eyes of the law

DEFINING:

Murder: as the premeditated killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Manslaughter: as the unintentional killing by one human being of another member of the species Homo sapiens

Sexual Assault: as lewd or sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual who has not granted his or her consent to such acts; this definition encompasses rape among of things and should not be interpreted to exclude any offenses of a sexual nature, regardless of the relative severity of the acts in question

Child Molestation: as sexual acts or behaviors directed towards an individual under the age of seventeen by an individual who has attained at least seventeen years

Possession of Child Pornography: as holding or possessing pornographic materials, or images and words designed to incite sexual arousal, which portray or depict at least one or more individuals under the age of seventeen

Battery: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment of physical force against another individual resulting in or intended to result in injury, whether with or without a weapon

Assault: as the unnecessary and unlawful employment or threat of employment of physical force against another individual, whether intended to result in injury or not

Slander: as spoken untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Libel: as written untruthful and malicious defamation of character

Harassment: as repetitive and persistent behaviors, gestures, or words which perturb, upset, or discomfit another individual to the point where they suffer mental harm

Arson: as the deliberate or wrongful igniting of a fire which endangers or destroys property, life, or well-being, either of an individual or the state

Theft: as the unlawful and nonconsensual acquisition of property through coercion

Fraud: as the unlawful acquisition of property, capital, or favors, which would otherwise be nonconsensual, through the use of guile

Vandalism: as the wanton destruction or defacing of another individual's property

Reckless Endangerment: as any action taken or behavior adopted without regard to the impact of one's actions on others, which could cause immediate and pressing concern for individual or public safety

Criminal Neglect: as the abandonment of an individual under the age of seventeen or a dependent, whether temporary of conclusive, which endangers the physical, mental, or emotional well-being of the minor or dependent in question

MANDATING: that persons charged with any of the aforementioned crimes shall henceforth be detained and imprisoned until an independent judiciary capable of hearing their case shall be established

STIPULATING: that this resolution, allowing for the indefinite detention of accused persons, shall be rendered null and void upon the creation of an independent judiciary responsible for trying accused persons together with the passage of a comprehensible criminal code of justice

OBLIGATING: all branches of the government to ensure that accused persons receive a fair trial by a jury of their peers and with access to legal counsel

HEREBY ESTABLISHES A TEMPORARY CRIMINAL CODE OF JUSTICE

This is excellent.

[Zweite Alaje]

I think the PCC Bill must be moved to the front of the queue. It is fundamental to the continued safety of the nation.

[Silent Majority]

I think the PCC Bill must be moved to the front of the queue. It is fundamental to the continued safety of the nation.

I'm also pretty sure it was submitted before a lot of those other bills in the queue, as I seem to remember it being drafted in the middle of the whole monarchy v. republic debate.

[Evraim]

I think the PCC Bill must be moved to the front of the queue. It is fundamental to the continued safety of the nation.

Not to mention it received five votes before almost any of the resolutions on the queue... I go to keep the Sabbath and everything falls apart.

See. You should have declared me Grand High Poobah when you had the chance.

I think the PCC Bill must be moved to the front of the queue. It is fundamental to the continued safety of the nation.

I'm also pretty sure it was submitted before a lot of those other bills in the queue, as I seem to remember it being drafted in the middle of the whole monarchy v. republic debate.

This. So much of this. Also, could someone please tell me what's going down on the Senate floor? I'm lost.

[Kouralia]

I'm a RL Monarchist.

Hey, me too. I bet I just blew your mind with this confession.

MY GOD! A MONARCHIST BEING A MILITANT MEMBER OF THE MONARCHIST PARTY?!

What is this world coming to?

[Kouralia]

*snip*

I would note, I think, that the Theft charge leaves out any theft when the owner is not present, and I think shooting someone to death on the spur of the moment is not included on there.

[Zweite Alaje]

I think the PCC Bill must be moved to the front of the queue. It is fundamental to the continued safety of the nation.

I'm also pretty sure it was submitted before a lot of those other bills in the queue, as I seem to remember it being drafted in the middle of the whole monarchy v. republic debate.

Ah ok, then we really need to move this along.

Anyway, did the republic v monarchy issue every get resolved or is it still on the back-burner?

[Irredento]

Hey, me too. I bet I just blew your mind with this confession.

MY GOD! A MONARCHIST BEING A MILITANT MEMBER OF THE MONARCHIST PARTY?!

What is this world coming to?

I'm pretty much a monarchist ninja. No one knows I'm a monarchist until it's too late.

[Ceannairceach]

I'm also pretty sure it was submitted before a lot of those other bills in the queue, as I seem to remember it being drafted in the middle of the whole monarchy v. republic debate.

Ah ok, then we really need to move this along.

Anyway, did the republic v monarchy issue every get resolved or is it still on the back-burner?

Rather weighted victory in the favor of the Republic.

[Evraim]

*snip*

I would note, I think, that the Theft charge leaves out any theft when the owner is not present, and I think shooting someone to death on the spur of the moment is not included on there.

Once the resolution reaches the floor, as it inevitably will, I'll probably alter the definition of manslaughter to include shooting someone to death on the spur of the moment as well. In all honesty, this bill is supposed to remove potential criminal elements from the rest of society until we can create a legitimate judicial system. At this point, I'm willing to consider a gentlemen's duel as a legitimate form of justice.

[Zweite Alaje]

Ah ok, then we really need to move this along.

Anyway, did the republic v monarchy issue every get resolved or is it still on the back-burner?

Rather weighted victory in the favor of the Republic.

Meh, I personally would've liked to have a monarch, but it isn't that important. Policy is more urgent than form in my book.