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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:51 am

CTALNH wrote:It is a service to society.

No.

CTALNH wrote:Like solon said:

Solon, seeing Athens full of young men, with both an instinctual compulsion, and a habit of straying in an inappropriate direction, bought women and established them in various places, equipped and common to all. The women stand naked that you not be deceived. Look at everything. Maybe you are not feeling well. You have some sort of pain. Why? The door is open. One obol. Hop in. There is no coyness, no idle talk, nor does she snatch herself away. But straight away, as you wish, in whatever way you wish. You come out. Tell her to go to hell. She is a stranger to you.

I don't care what Solon said.

CTALNH wrote:Its service to society.Which admittedly should be held in a much higher honor.

No.

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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:51 am

Great Nepal wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Cut the attitude please.

Its the truth, good sir. Ancestors are as relevant to this argument as ice maker are relevant to penguins.

There are very relevant actually they teach you how to live.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:52 am

CTALNH wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Its the truth, good sir. Ancestors are as relevant to this argument as ice maker are relevant to penguins.

There are very relevant actually they teach you how to live.

No, they dont. Society moves on and policies must move on as well, rather than being stuck on rewind.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:52 am

Divair wrote:
CTALNH wrote:It is a service to society.

No.

CTALNH wrote:Like solon said:

Solon, seeing Athens full of young men, with both an instinctual compulsion, and a habit of straying in an inappropriate direction, bought women and established them in various places, equipped and common to all. The women stand naked that you not be deceived. Look at everything. Maybe you are not feeling well. You have some sort of pain. Why? The door is open. One obol. Hop in. There is no coyness, no idle talk, nor does she snatch herself away. But straight away, as you wish, in whatever way you wish. You come out. Tell her to go to hell. She is a stranger to you.

I don't care what Solon said.

CTALNH wrote:Its service to society.Which admittedly should be held in a much higher honor.

No.

:mad:

I care what Solon said.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:53 am

Great Nepal wrote:
CTALNH wrote:There are very relevant actually they teach you how to live.

No, they dont. Society moves on and policies must move on as well, rather than being stuck on rewind.

And that is why I hate the west.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist

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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:53 am

CTALNH wrote:
Divair wrote:No.


I don't care what Solon said.


No.

:mad:

I care what Solon said.

And the rest of us don't.

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Postby Arglorand » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:53 am

CTALNH wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:No, they dont. Society moves on and policies must move on as well, rather than being stuck on rewind.

And that is why I hate the west.

Epirus is a terrible place, I agree.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
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Postby Artite » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:54 am

Divair wrote:
Artite wrote:But is still a service, to a minor part of society.

It's a service, just like every other service that make up the majority of every modern economy. Unless someone is seriously recommending we nationalize the majority of our economy, it's irrelevant.


As I see it it is not irrelevant, we nationalize the sex industry we would be boosting our economy, America has the largest sex/porn industry in the world if only they nationalized it they would start feeling the effects of it doing good for the economy.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:54 am

Divair wrote:
CTALNH wrote: :mad:

I care what Solon said.

And the rest of us don't.

Your flame baiting me aren't ya.

Its working so I will stop here.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:54 am

CTALNH wrote:
Divair wrote:And the rest of us don't.

Your flame baiting me aren't ya.

Its working so I will stop here.

No.

Artite wrote:
Divair wrote:It's a service, just like every other service that make up the majority of every modern economy. Unless someone is seriously recommending we nationalize the majority of our economy, it's irrelevant.


As I see it it is not irrelevant, we nationalize the sex industry we would be boosting our economy, America has the largest sex/porn industry in the world if only they nationalized it they would start feeling the effects of it doing good for the economy.

Nationalizing does not boost an economy. What kind of silly notion is that?

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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:54 am

CTALNH wrote: :mad:
I care what Solon said.

I should be able to sell you couple of stuff of Solon, which I am about to throw away because they take up too much space. Swing by my office in few hours. However, his views are absolutely irrelevant.

CTALNH wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:No, they dont. Society moves on and policies must move on as well, rather than being stuck on rewind.

And that is why I hate the west.

Again, irrelevant.
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Postby Artite » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:58 am

It will slightly boost the economy the porn industry makes millions every year from teenage boys to hairry old men who look like Ron Jeremy, also women, now if we nationalize the sex/porn industry we could start making those millions, make the private sector of sex/porn industry a public sector, how bad it sounds or immoral it will work, it will put a slight dent on the economy and boost it stop dragging it down state your reasons why it wouldn't work.
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Parndia Civil War:Victory, territory acquired
Langock Civil War: Victory
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Postby Arglorand » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:00 am

How about we pass a law legalizing it now, and then vote on a law on whether it should be nationalized?

That would solve our problems in a democratic, proper way.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:00 am

Arglorand wrote:How about we pass a law legalizing it now, and then vote on a law on whether it should be nationalized?

That would solve our problems in a democratic, proper way.

We dont have to pass law legalizing it because as it stands, sex is legal and selling is legal therefore selling sex is legal.
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Postby Divair » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:01 am

Artite wrote:It will slightly boost the economy the porn industry makes millions every year from teenage boys to hairry old men who look like Ron Jeremy, also women, now if we nationalize the sex/porn industry we could start making those millions, make the private sector of sex/porn industry a public sector, how bad it sounds or immoral it will work, it will put a slight dent on the economy and boost it stop dragging it down state your reasons why it wouldn't work.

Jesus, man, write proper sentences, not huge run-ons with irrelevant nonsense in between. Nationalizing an industry does not "boost the economy". If it did, every government would nationalize everything and we'd all live in a utopia. Nationalizing certain parts of the economy is meant to ensure non-exclusivity and non-rivalry, not to "boost the economy".

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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:01 am

Arglorand wrote:How about we pass a law legalizing it now, and then vote on a law on whether it should be nationalized?

That would solve our problems in a democratic, proper way.

Sure that can work.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist

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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:20 am

Divair wrote:
Artite wrote:But is still a service, to a minor part of society.

It's a service (note: not to society), just like every other service that make up the majority of every modern economy. Unless someone is seriously recommending we nationalize the majority of our economy, it's irrelevant.

You rang? :p
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:21 am

Kouralia wrote:
Divair wrote:It's a service (note: not to society), just like every other service that make up the majority of every modern economy. Unless someone is seriously recommending we nationalize the majority of our economy, it's irrelevant.

You rang? :p

I believe, you overlooked the key word, "seriously" there. :p
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:23 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Kouralia wrote:You rang? :p

I believe, you overlooked the key word, "seriously" there. :p

You rang?
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:25 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Kouralia wrote:You rang? :p

I believe, you overlooked the key word, "seriously" there. :p

We're the ultra-left wing.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:28 am

Kouralia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I believe, you overlooked the key word, "seriously" there. :p

We're the ultra-left wing.

CTALNH approves. :clap:
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
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T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist

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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:29 am

CTALNH wrote:
Kouralia wrote:We're the ultra-left wing.

CTALNH approves. :clap:

That's mostly because you're also in the USLP. ;-)
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:30 am

Kouralia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:CTALNH approves. :clap:

That's mostly because you're also in the USLP. ;-)

Also probably because I am a RL Stalinist.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist

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Postby Kouralia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:31 am

CTALNH wrote:
Kouralia wrote:That's mostly because you're also in the USLP. ;-)

Also probably because I am a RL Stalinist.

I'm a RL Monarchist. :p
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:34 am

Kouralia wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Also probably because I am a RL Stalinist.

I'm a RL Monarchist. :p

Wow.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
Authoritarian Extreme Leftist because fuck pre-existing Ideologies.
"Epicus Doomicus Metallicus"
Radical Anti-Radical Feminist Feminist
S.W.I.F: Sex Worker Inclusionary Feminist.
T.I.F: Trans Inclusionary Feminist

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