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The Broken Imperial Sector
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:41 pm

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The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:That child won't see his mom or dad kill people. They won't peak out of their bedroom door and see their mom or dad shooting someone else while the child of a prostitute would see and hear men and women leaving their house and have to live with hearing their parent telling someone the price of their body.



Not every prostitute works from their house.

Yes Senator I know but the child will know what their parent does for a living they will have to live with that for the rest of their lives knowing that their mother or father makes a living as a sex toy.
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Postby Beta Test » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:45 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Beta Test wrote:

Not every prostitute works from their house.

Yes Senator I know but the child will know what their parent does for a living they will have to live with that for the rest of their lives knowing that their mother or father makes a living as a sex toy.



Alright, the child knows that but the child is not harmed in any way. The child's health is not affected and their education is not affected.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:47 pm

Beta Test wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Yes Senator I know but the child will know what their parent does for a living they will have to live with that for the rest of their lives knowing that their mother or father makes a living as a sex toy.



Alright, the child knows that but the child is not harmed in any way. The child's health is not affected and their education is not affected.

Not their physical health no. But what about their mental health? Imagine knowing your parent is a toy for others Senator once again I ask how can you support this?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:47 pm

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Ceannairceach wrote:No such organization exists as of yet, however, meaning that for at least the time being you support the criminal element of this nation.

Incorrect. That is like saying I support smoking meth by wanting it to remain illegal. That's is a ridiculous argument.

No more ridiculous than saying it is a governmental encouragement to want to see prostitution legalized.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:48 pm

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The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Yes Senator I know but the child will know what their parent does for a living they will have to live with that for the rest of their lives knowing that their mother or father makes a living as a sex toy.



Alright, the child knows that but the child is not harmed in any way. The child's health is not affected and their education is not affected.

It'd think any child's mental health would be compromised if they had to tell people their parents job was giving "sucky-sucky five dollar" for a living.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:48 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Beta Test wrote:

Alright, the child knows that but the child is not harmed in any way. The child's health is not affected and their education is not affected.

Not their physical health no. But what about their mental health? Imagine knowing your parent is a toy for others Senator once again I ask how can you support this?

And what of the mental health of a child of a soldier? Do you not care about them!?

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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:48 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Beta Test wrote:

Alright, the child knows that but the child is not harmed in any way. The child's health is not affected and their education is not affected.

It'd think any child's mental health would be compromised if they had to tell people their parents job was giving "sucky-sucky five dollar" for a living.

Well put Senator :clap:
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:49 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Beta Test wrote:

Alright, the child knows that but the child is not harmed in any way. The child's health is not affected and their education is not affected.

It'd think any child's mental health would be compromised if they had to tell people their parents job was giving "sucky-sucky five dollar" for a living.

Kindly stop using such offensive and loaded language, Senator.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:49 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:It'd think any child's mental health would be compromised if they had to tell people their parents job was giving "sucky-sucky five dollar" for a living.

Well put Senator :clap:

Please do not encourage that infantile behavior.

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Postby Silent Majority » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:49 pm

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Geilinor wrote:They don't kill anyone, if we regulate it for sexually transmitted illnesses. Also, both sides would be participating in consensual activity, by entering into the business as consenting adults.

Consent is irrelevant, these "sex workers" are performing deviant acts in direct conflict with a moral lifestyle.


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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:50 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Not their physical health no. But what about their mental health? Imagine knowing your parent is a toy for others Senator once again I ask how can you support this?

And what of the mental health of a child of a soldier? Do you not care about them!?

That child will be more proud of the parent for protecting them and their country than the parent that makes a living on it's back.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:50 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Incorrect. That is like saying I support smoking meth by wanting it to remain illegal. That's is a ridiculous argument.

No more ridiculous than saying it is a governmental encouragement to want to see prostitution legalized.

Legalizing it would be de facto encouraging it due to the fact they would now have the right to openly advertise their "profession" to the public.
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Postby Beta Test » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:50 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Beta Test wrote:

Alright, the child knows that but the child is not harmed in any way. The child's health is not affected and their education is not affected.

Not their physical health no. But what about their mental health? Imagine knowing your parent is a toy for others Senator once again I ask how can you support this?



I support the idea that every human has the liberty to do what they want with their body if no one else is harmed. I am not convinced that children are harmed by this, so that is how I support it.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:51 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:And what of the mental health of a child of a soldier? Do you not care about them!?

That child will be more proud of the parent for protecting them and their country than the parent that makes a living on it's back.

I will have to ask you to stop using such offensive language as well, Senator. And I would think a child would be scarred by the idea of their parent killing people.

Ban soldiers, partisans, guns, policemen, militias, and bodyguards.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:52 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:No more ridiculous than saying it is a governmental encouragement to want to see prostitution legalized.

Legalizing it would be de facto encouraging it due to the fact they would now have the right to openly advertise their "profession" to the public.

And illegalization would be de facto encouragement of the human trafficking, slavery and exploitation black markets due to the fact that the criminal element makes a profit off its illegality.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:53 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:That child will be more proud of the parent for protecting them and their country than the parent that makes a living on it's back.

I will have to ask you to stop using such offensive language as well, Senator. And I would think a child would be scarred by the idea of their parent killing people.

Ban soldiers, partisans, guns, policemen, militias, and bodyguards.

How about no that Senator. Good luck enforcing that Senator what are you going to do kill every other nations soldiers, militia and bodyguards?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:54 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:I will have to ask you to stop using such offensive language as well, Senator. And I would think a child would be scarred by the idea of their parent killing people.

Ban soldiers, partisans, guns, policemen, militias, and bodyguards.

How about no that Senator. Good luck enforcing that Senator what are you going to do kill every other nations soldiers, militia and bodyguards?

What are you going to do, Senator, kill every prostitute who dares to use their body in the way they see fit?

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:55 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:It'd think any child's mental health would be compromised if they had to tell people their parents job was giving "sucky-sucky five dollar" for a living.

Kindly stop using such offensive and loaded language, Senator.

How is it offensive? Is it not true prostitutes sell sexual favors for monetary compensation? I've done nothing but illustrate the situation in its actuality.

Silent Majority wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Consent is irrelevant, these "sex workers" are performing deviant acts in direct conflict with a moral lifestyle.


Not everyone ascribes to your reactionary moral views

Their is nothing reactionary about not wanting whore behavior to become "acceptable".
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:55 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:How about no that Senator. Good luck enforcing that Senator what are you going to do kill every other nations soldiers, militia and bodyguards?

What are you going to do, Senator, kill every prostitute who dares to use their body in the way they see fit?

Ah well played Senator. But no we will just shuffle them of to the back alleys or to prison.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:56 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Kindly stop using such offensive and loaded language, Senator.

How is it offensive? Is it not true prostitutes sell sexual favors for monetary compensation? I've done nothing but illustrate the situation in its actuality.

You have slandered sex workers by demeaning them and their positions. Kindly stop this.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:57 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:What are you going to do, Senator, kill every prostitute who dares to use their body in the way they see fit?

Ah well played Senator. But no we will just shuffle them of to the back alleys or to prison.

And thus filling our nonexistent prisons with the perpetrators of victimless crimes and putting the profits from that industry right into the hands of the criminal element. Well done, Senator. Your mission to destroy this nation is one step closer to completion.

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:57 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Legalizing it would be de facto encouraging it due to the fact they would now have the right to openly advertise their "profession" to the public.

And illegalization would be de facto encouragement of the human trafficking, slavery and exploitation black markets due to the fact that the criminal element makes a profit off its illegality.

No more than a meth dealer profits from the illegality of their "product". Is the illegal status of meth and other drugs like it encouraging drug addicts and crack babies?
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:57 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:How is it offensive? Is it not true prostitutes sell sexual favors for monetary compensation? I've done nothing but illustrate the situation in its actuality.

You have slandered sex workers by demeaning them and their positions. Kindly stop this.

Their job is not meant to be a good thing selling yourself is nothing to be proud of.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:58 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Ah well played Senator. But no we will just shuffle them of to the back alleys or to prison.

And thus filling our nonexistent prisons with the perpetrators of victimless crimes and putting the profits from that industry right into the hands of the criminal element. Well done, Senator. Your mission to destroy this nation is one step closer to completion.

My mission is to save it not destroy it.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:58 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:You have slandered sex workers by demeaning them and their positions. Kindly stop this.

Their job is not meant to be a good thing selling yourself is nothing to be proud of.

To you, perhaps. What you may be proud or not proud of is not standard for all people.

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