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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:15 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Senator so has the need for religion and yet that never seems to get ample credit to be used as justification for anything.

Because prostitution can't be disproven by fact.

Well put Senator but once again I see this argument coming to a stalemate of morals. I will not change my stance and neither will you so to continue arguing about it is pointless other than to show my displeasure of this bill.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:16 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Because prostitution can't be disproven by fact.

Well put Senator but once again I see this argument coming to a stalemate of morals. I will not change my stance and neither will you so to continue arguing about it is pointless other than to show my displeasure of this bill.

Agreed.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:16 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
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That is digusting.


You can't be serious, Senator. You cannot compare a soldier, which is an honorable citizen placing his life on the line to defend this nation's existance, to a prostitute who does nothing but have orgies and advertising sexual objectification of our citizens.

How is it honourable to kill people? Soldiers make the act of killing people in far-off places seem like fun and justifiable. Prostitutes don't rape and pillage, soldiers in war do.

It's honorable to kill people that would otherwise happily destroy your family and nation. The last time I checked soldiers don't make light of taking lives. Whores however make light this nations moral health.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:17 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Well put Senator but once again I see this argument coming to a stalemate of morals. I will not change my stance and neither will you so to continue arguing about it is pointless other than to show my displeasure of this bill.

Agreed.

Well then Senator we can agree on somethings at least. *extends hand
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:18 pm

Albul wrote:If this seems racy for the conservatives, just wait for the act of which I've been thinking.

The Clean Cannabis Act

It will legalize and regulate the marijuana industry.

I have no problems with marijuana legalization.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:20 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:How is it honourable to kill people? Soldiers make the act of killing people in far-off places seem like fun and justifiable. Prostitutes don't rape and pillage, soldiers in war do.

It's honorable to kill people that would otherwise happily destroy your family and nation. The last time I checked soldiers don't make light of taking lives. Whores however make light this nations moral health.

Says the Senator who wishes to allow pimps and gangsters to keep their profits.

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Postby Albul » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:23 pm

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Postby Geilinor » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:23 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:How is it honourable to kill people? Soldiers make the act of killing people in far-off places seem like fun and justifiable. Prostitutes don't rape and pillage, soldiers in war do.

It's honorable to kill people that would otherwise happily destroy your family and nation. The last time I checked soldiers don't make light of taking lives. Whores however make light this nations moral health.

They don't kill anyone, if we regulate it for sexually transmitted illnesses. Also, both sides would be participating in consensual activity, by entering into the business as consenting adults.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:25 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:It's honorable to kill people that would otherwise happily destroy your family and nation. The last time I checked soldiers don't make light of taking lives. Whores however make light this nations moral health.

Says the Senator who wishes to allow pimps and gangsters to keep their profits.

That is false, as I support the formation if a national organization specifically to seek out and persecute all individuals operating as "sex workers" this includes pimps.
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Postby Beta Test » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:27 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Says the Senator who wishes to allow pimps and gangsters to keep their profits.

That is false, as I support the formation if a national organization specifically to seek out and persecute all individuals operating as "sex workers" this includes pimps.



Why waste government funds on such a pointless organization?
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:28 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:It's honorable to kill people that would otherwise happily destroy your family and nation. The last time I checked soldiers don't make light of taking lives. Whores however make light this nations moral health.

They don't kill anyone, if we regulate it for sexually transmitted illnesses. Also, both sides would be participating in consensual activity, by entering into the business as consenting adults.

Consent is irrelevant, these "sex workers" are performing deviant acts in direct conflict with a moral lifestyle.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:29 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Geilinor wrote:They don't kill anyone, if we regulate it for sexually transmitted illnesses. Also, both sides would be participating in consensual activity, by entering into the business as consenting adults.

Consent is irrelevant, these "sex workers" are performing deviant acts in direct conflict with a moral lifestyle.

Do you believe homosexuality is deviant and in conflict with a moral lifestyle? If so, and I suspect so, I can't really negotiate with you.
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Postby Beta Test » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:30 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Geilinor wrote:They don't kill anyone, if we regulate it for sexually transmitted illnesses. Also, both sides would be participating in consensual activity, by entering into the business as consenting adults.

Consent is irrelevant, these "sex workers" are performing deviant acts in direct conflict with a moral lifestyle.


What is this "moral lifestyle" that you keep speaking about, Senator?
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:31 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:Consent is irrelevant, these "sex workers" are performing deviant acts in direct conflict with a moral lifestyle.


What is this "moral lifestyle" that you keep speaking about, Senator?

Maybe one where it's illegal to make a living of selling yourself and then telling your children that it is okay to do it as well.
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Postby Othelos » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:32 pm

The new order of Hetalia7 wrote:Insurgency Prevention Act

1. All nations in the NSG Senate will provide military aid to countries that have been attacked by Terrorists or are having difficulties with Insurgents

The Senate is the legislative body of one nation.

Terrible idea for the Senate to give money to anybody who has any trouble with anyone.

"Insurgent" needs to be defined.

2. Aid must be given to Dictatorships as well as Democratic nations'

Isn't that covered by point one?

3. All nations must contribute if possible

What nations?

4. Governments that are Corporations would be given Financial Aid

Isn't that covered by point one?

5. the sex industry must be nationalized

What does that have to do with insurgents?

6. Civil Wars will also count as insurgencies within a nation

This point would be unnecessary with a proper definition of "insurgent" in point one.

7. As long as the governing body stands the insurgents will not be recognized as the current governing body

What does this have to do with preventing insurgency?

8. To help prevent insurgencies the NSG Senate must organize trade between nations with sub-standard armies, and nations that mass produce weapons, this helps many nations

Grammar, and it's a pretty heavy load to have the Senate of one nation organize the trade throughout the rest of the world. It's also not in our jurisdiction to do so.

9. Nations with no military will not be allowed to plea for aid

This contradicts point one.

10. Anarchic nations will also not be allowed to request aid from the NSG Senate

Also contradicts point one.

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:33 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Consent is irrelevant, these "sex workers" are performing deviant acts in direct conflict with a moral lifestyle.

Do you believe homosexuality is deviant and in conflict with a moral lifestyle? If so, and I suspect so, I can't really negotiate with you.

No, I don't. Homosexuality has nothing to do with an individual's morals it is an inherent feature of their being.
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Postby Beta Test » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:34 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Beta Test wrote:
What is this "moral lifestyle" that you keep speaking about, Senator?

Maybe one where it's illegal to make a living of selling yourself and then telling your children that it is okay to do it as well.


Their not harming anyone, Senator, so why should it be illegal?
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:35 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Says the Senator who wishes to allow pimps and gangsters to keep their profits.

That is false, as I support the formation if a national organization specifically to seek out and persecute all individuals operating as "sex workers" this includes pimps.

No such organization exists as of yet, however, meaning that for at least the time being you support the criminal element of this nation.

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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:35 pm

Beta Test wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Maybe one where it's illegal to make a living of selling yourself and then telling your children that it is okay to do it as well.


Their not harming anyone, Senator, so why should it be illegal?

So there's no harm in an eight year old child seeing his or her mother/father making a living as a sexual pleasure device? Senator how can you support this?
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:35 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Do you believe homosexuality is deviant and in conflict with a moral lifestyle? If so, and I suspect so, I can't really negotiate with you.

No, I don't. Homosexuality has nothing to do with an individual's morals it is an inherent feature of their being.

Okay. I was wondering because you said "deviant acts", and deviance is differing from the norm in society.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:36 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Beta Test wrote:
Their not harming anyone, Senator, so why should it be illegal?

So there's no harm in an eight year old child seeing his or her mother/father making a living as a sexual pleasure device? Senator how can you support this?

How can you support the idea of a child seeing his mother or father as a tool of death and destruction?

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Postby Beta Test » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:38 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:So there's no harm in an eight year old child seeing his or her mother/father making a living as a sexual pleasure device? Senator how can you support this?

How can you support the idea of a child seeing his mother or father as a tool of death and destruction?


How is the child harmed? Please tell me.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:38 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:So there's no harm in an eight year old child seeing his or her mother/father making a living as a sexual pleasure device? Senator how can you support this?

How can you support the idea of a child seeing his mother or father as a tool of death and destruction?

That child won't see his mom or dad kill people. They won't peak out of their bedroom door and see their mom or dad shooting someone else while the child of a prostitute would see and hear men and women leaving their house and have to live with hearing their parent telling someone the price of their body.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:40 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:That is false, as I support the formation if a national organization specifically to seek out and persecute all individuals operating as "sex workers" this includes pimps.

No such organization exists as of yet, however, meaning that for at least the time being you support the criminal element of this nation.

Incorrect. That is like saying I support smoking meth by wanting it to remain illegal. That's is a ridiculous argument.
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Postby Beta Test » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:40 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:How can you support the idea of a child seeing his mother or father as a tool of death and destruction?

That child won't see his mom or dad kill people. They won't peak out of their bedroom door and see their mom or dad shooting someone else while the child of a prostitute would see and hear men and women leaving their house and have to live with hearing their parent telling someone the price of their body.



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