NSG Senate Coffee Shop (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[The New Sea Territory]

Insurgency Prevention Act

1. All nations in the NSG Senate will provide military aid to countries that have been attacked by Terrorists or are having difficulties with Insurgents

2. Aid must be given to Dictatorships as well as Democratic nations'

3. All nations must contribute if possible

4. Governments that are Corporations would be given Financial Aid

5. the sex industry must be nationalized

6. Civil Wars will also count as insurgencies within a nation

7. As long as the governing body stands the insurgents will not be recognized as the current governing body

8. To help prevent insurgencies the NSG Senate must organize trade between nations with sub-standard armies, and nations that mass produce weapons, this helps many nations

9. Nations with no military will not be allowed to plea for aid

10. Anarchic nations will also not be allowed to request aid from the NSG Senate

Never. Absolutely Not. No, No and No. The Anarcho-Confederation will never support this, and no objectivist will either.

[Albul]

I never said they were the greatest.

But you say you are proud of it Senator, is telling your nations people it's okay to make a living as a sex toy something to be proud of?

Yes. Are you proud of telling your nation's people that it's okay to unleash hell by making it rain lead and blood when a person drives on your driveway, in the name of self-defense? It's okay to unleash carnage with guns? Murder is okay?

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

But you say you are proud of it Senator, is telling your nations people it's okay to make a living as a sex toy something to be proud of?

Yes, people work as all sorts of things for others amusement, like clowns. Should we ban clowns now?

No clowns don't let people use them for sexual pleasure and then tell their children it's okay to do the same clowns juggle and make balloon animals.

[Albul]

Still up for debate:

Date: 27th of March, 2013 CE
Urgency: high
Category: Improvement on human and civil rights
Drafted by: Senator Albul

Issue: A rise in the involuntary sex slave trade industry and the sale of sex slaves on the black market

The Civil Treatment Act

Senator Albul proposes the legalization and regulation of the sex industry, in order to free those abused by the involuntary sex slave trade industry and to improve the lives of those who wish to be involved in the sex industry.

1) Any and all forms of slavery will be discontinued and condemned by the government. Those that are found possessing and/or selling slaves shall be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Possible punishments include a minimum of 20 years in prison and/or a minimum fine of 500,000 NSD per slave.

a) Pimping, where a non-sex-worker assumes the role of manager to a sex worker and takes a cut of the sex worker's earnings, will be prohibited and should be punishable with a minimum of 15 years in prison and/or a minimum fine of 400,000 NSD per sex worker.

b) Those forced in the sex industry shall be released from the custody of their former owners. The sex industry will be nationalized, in order to prevent further abuses in the industry. Those wishing to join the sex industry must sign up in the nearest government office.

2) Workers in the nationalized sex industry must fill out an employment form and receive a license. They must have enough tests to prove competency and safety for both clients and workers alike. Sex workers must also complete regular license tests in order to ensure the safety of both the worker and the client.

a) License tests must be performed monthly, to prevent the transmission of diseases.
b) All sex workers should either operate as self-employed or as members of non-hierarchical sex workers' associations.

3) Workers must also obtain the same amount of benefits as any other worker. This may include, but is not limited to, health insurance and dental care. Workers may also file complaints concerning abusive behavior from clients.

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The sex industry should be heavily regulated with its workers having the same rights as other workers.

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

But you say you are proud of it Senator, is telling your nations people it's okay to make a living as a sex toy something to be proud of?

Yes. Are you proud of telling your nation's people that it's okay to unleash hell by making it rain lead and blood when a person drives on your driveway, in the name of self-defense? It's okay to unleash carnage with guns? Murder is okay?

Only in self defense Senator I am not advocating murder.Owning a gun does not mean that you want to kill someone does owning a car also mean you wish to get drunk and kill someone in a car crash?

[Albul]

Yes, people work as all sorts of things for others amusement, like clowns. Should we ban clowns now?

No clowns don't let people use them for sexual pleasure and then tell their children it's okay to do the same clowns juggle and make balloon animals.

Are you proud of having a nation in which involuntary sex workers work with little pay, horrible conditions, and a heavy lack of civil rights? Where they risk their life every day?

Yes. Are you proud of telling your nation's people that it's okay to unleash hell by making it rain lead and blood when a person drives on your driveway, in the name of self-defense? It's okay to unleash carnage with guns? Murder is okay?

Only in self defense Senator I am not advocating murder.Owning a gun does not mean that you want to kill someone does owning a car also mean you wish to get drunk and kill someone in a car crash?

I don't support owning cars either. They're not eco-friendly.

[Albul]

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[The Broken Imperial Sector]

No clowns don't let people use them for sexual pleasure and then tell their children it's okay to do the same clowns juggle and make balloon animals.

Are you proud of having a nation in which involuntary sex workers work with little pay, horrible conditions, and a heavy lack of civil rights? Where they risk their life every day?

No our police force does one heck of a good job at keeping them from doing what they do.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Are you proud of having a nation in which involuntary sex workers work with little pay, horrible conditions, and a heavy lack of civil rights? Where they risk their life every day?

No our police force does one heck of a good job at keeping them from doing what they do.

Which wastes money and overcrowds prisons. Also, what police force?

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

Only in self defense Senator I am not advocating murder.Owning a gun does not mean that you want to kill someone does owning a car also mean you wish to get drunk and kill someone in a car crash?

I don't support owning cars either. They're not eco-friendly.

Oh my Senator so someone can make a living as a sex object but they can't have a car now?

[Albul]

Are you proud of having a nation in which involuntary sex workers work with little pay, horrible conditions, and a heavy lack of civil rights? Where they risk their life every day?

No our police force does one heck of a good job at keeping them from doing what they do.

Those that get past the system?

I don't support owning cars either. They're not eco-friendly.

Oh my Senator so someone can make a living as a sex object but they can't have a car now?

They can own a car if it's necessary. We have a highly efficient public transportation system that practically eliminates the need for a car, unless you live in the suburbs. In my nation, cars are impractical.

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

No our police force does one heck of a good job at keeping them from doing what they do.

Which wastes money and overcrowds prisons. Also, what police force?

Oops my mistake shouldn't have said police force or mentioned that, well now I feel dumb.

[Zweite Alaje]

Well then Senator if pleading to emotions will not work than there is not much else I can do to convince you that this is disgusting and wrong. Also Senator keep in mind birth control does not always work.

Birth control doesn't always work, but I'm pretty sure abortion does.

That is digusting.

True and with that the child will either follow in their footsteps or end up scared for life from having a childhood seeing their mothers bring a few dozen or so men into her bed each night.

Or they may grow up with a parent that has to kill people in the service of their party or government. Or they may have to grow up with a parent that enforces debt upon the poor. Or they may have a parent that is party to such a corrupt institution as a democratic government.

And time will go on.

You can't be serious, Senator. You cannot compare a soldier, which is an honorable citizen placing his life on the line to defend this nation's existance, to a prostitute who does nothing but have orgies and advertising sexual objectification of our citizens.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Birth control doesn't always work, but I'm pretty sure abortion does.

That is digusting.

Or they may grow up with a parent that has to kill people in the service of their party or government. Or they may have to grow up with a parent that enforces debt upon the poor. Or they may have a parent that is party to such a corrupt institution as a democratic government.

And time will go on.

You can't be serious, Senator. You cannot compare a soldier, which is an honorable citizen placing his life on the line to defend this nation's existance, to a prostitute who does nothing but have orgies and advertising sexual objectification of our citizens.

How is it honourable to kill people? Soldiers make the act of killing people in far-off places seem like fun and justifiable. Prostitutes don't rape and pillage, soldiers in war do.

[Albul]

Birth control doesn't always work, but I'm pretty sure abortion does.

That is digusting.

Or they may grow up with a parent that has to kill people in the service of their party or government. Or they may have to grow up with a parent that enforces debt upon the poor. Or they may have a parent that is party to such a corrupt institution as a democratic government.

And time will go on.

You can't be serious, Senator. You cannot compare a soldier, which is an honorable citizen placing his life on the line to defend this nation's existance, to a prostitute who does nothing but have orgies and advertising sexual objectification of our citizens.

What about soldiers on the offensive, that does nothing but risk his life to destroy a foreign country and the reputation of the country they represent? Are those honorable soldiers, too?

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

That is digusting.


You can't be serious, Senator. You cannot compare a soldier, which is an honorable citizen placing his life on the line to defend this nation's existance, to a prostitute who does nothing but have orgies and advertising sexual objectification of our citizens.

How is it honourable to kill people? Soldiers makes killing people seem like fun and justifiable.

Not every solider kills people the purpose of a becoming a solider is to defend your nation not kill other people. Defending your country and killing is more justifiable than living off your own body as a sex object to avoid an actual job anyone can just lay there and be used.

[Albul]

If this seems racy for the conservatives, just wait for the act of which I've been thinking.

The Clean Cannabis Act

It will legalize and regulate the marijuana industry.

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

If this seems racy for the conservatives, just wait for the act of which I've been thinking.

The Clean Cannabis Act

It will legalize and regulate the marijuana industry.

Meh go on ahead i'm down for a smoke.

[Beta Test]

If this seems racy for the conservatives, just wait for the act of which I've been thinking.

The Clean Cannabis Act

It will legalize and regulate the marijuana industry.

Speaking of cannabis whatever happened to that Totally Stoned Party?

[Albul]

If this seems racy for the conservatives, just wait for the act of which I've been thinking.

The Clean Cannabis Act

It will legalize and regulate the marijuana industry.

Meh go on ahead i'm down for a smoke.

You agree with the legalization of a substance that gives pleasure, but you disagree with the legalization of an action that gives pleasure...

[Silent Majority]

If this seems racy for the conservatives, just wait for the act of which I've been thinking.

The Clean Cannabis Act

It will legalize and regulate the marijuana industry.

Speaking of cannabis whatever happened to that Totally Stoned Party?

They merged with the TR party

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

Meh go on ahead i'm down for a smoke.

You agree with the legalization of a substance that gives pleasure, but you disagree with the legalization of an action that gives pleasure...

Yes Senator I am all for it just as long as it doesn't turn my people into lazypot heads.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

How is it honourable to kill people? Soldiers makes killing people seem like fun and justifiable.

Not every solider kills people the purpose of a becoming a solider is to defend your nation not kill other people. Defending your country and killing is more justifiable than living off your own body as a sex object to avoid an actual job anyone can just lay there and be used.

Being a prostitute is to provide people, who are otherwise deprived of, sexual pleasure. It is also the world's oldest and most time-honoured profession, which gives it some credit.

[The Broken Imperial Sector]

Not every solider kills people the purpose of a becoming a solider is to defend your nation not kill other people. Defending your country and killing is more justifiable than living off your own body as a sex object to avoid an actual job anyone can just lay there and be used.

Being a prostitute is to provide people, who are otherwise deprived of, sexual pleasure. It is also the world's oldest and most time-honoured profession, which gives it some credit.

Senator so has the need for religion and yet that never seems to get ample credit to be used as justification for anything.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Being a prostitute is to provide people, who are otherwise deprived of, sexual pleasure. It is also the world's oldest and most time-honoured profession, which gives it some credit.

Senator so has the need for religion and yet that never seems to get ample credit to be used as justification for anything.

Because prostitution can't be disproven by fact.