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Ceannairceach
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:32 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:It is the state tolerating it, Senator. I would purchase a dictionary if you do not know the difference between "tolerating" and "encouraging."

Senator by allowing it you are encouraging it. Your nations poor will see this as a way to make easy money just like women who say they are "exotic dancers" saving for collage. And what will happen if and when these women get pregnant? Let me guess abortion right? And what about the children of the prostitution? do you want your nation youth growing up seeing their mothers sell themselves?

That is a falsehood, senator; Tolerating is not encouraging in any sense of the word.

If a person wishes to provide a service of which they have the skill to perform, who are we to say that they are not allowed to do so?

Regulation would mean they could be provided with means of mandated birth control.

Your attempt at this appeal to my emotions is not working, Senator. Many children see their parents grow up as government-employed killer, debt enforcers, and a plethora of other things that one might find objectionable, and yet these things remain legal.

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Postby Beta Test » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:32 pm

The new order of Hetalia7 wrote:Insurgency Prevention Act

1. All nations in the NSG Senate will provide military aid to countries that have been attacked by Terrorists or are having difficulties with Insurgents

2. Aid must be given to Dictatorships as well as Democratic nations'

3. All nations must contribute if possible

4. Governments that are Corporations would be given Financial Aid

5. the sex industry must be nationalized

6. Civil Wars will also count as insurgencies within a nation

7. As long as the governing body stands the insurgents will not be recognized as the current governing body

8. To help prevent insurgencies the NSG Senate must organize trade between nations with sub-standard armies, and nations that mass produce weapons, this helps many nations

9. Nations with no military will not be allowed to plea for aid

10. Anarchic nations will also not be allowed to request aid from the NSG Senate


Against completely.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:33 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:It is the state tolerating it, Senator. I would purchase a dictionary if you do not know the difference between "tolerating" and "encouraging."

Senator by allowing it you are encouraging it. Your nations poor will see this as a way to make easy money just like women who say they are "exotic dancers" saving for collage. And what will happen if and when these women get pregnant? Let me guess abortion right? And what about the children of the prostitution? do you want your nation youth growing up seeing their mothers sell themselves?

If they see their mothers selling themselves, they'll learn to accept that prostitution shouldn't be frowned upon and that their mothers are involved in the world's oldest profession. So in a way, Yes they should see that.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:33 pm

Trotskylvania wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:The danger to the cleanliness and moral stability of this nation's people. Legalizing it will essentially be giving these harlots a springbroad to advertise their deviant lifestyles to the public.

The only moral issue with regards to prostitution is preventing abuse and exploitation, and ensuring that they are not ostracized for supplying a service that is demanded by society.

What you suggest is just sanctimonious garbage.


They should be ostracized from society for the filthy behavior they attempt to infect the public mores with. Simply "providing a service that is demanded" is not grounds to legalize this drivel. These people should be processed and sentenced to some prison time.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:34 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The only moral issue with regards to prostitution is preventing abuse and exploitation, and ensuring that they are not ostracized for supplying a service that is demanded by society.

What you suggest is just sanctimonious garbage.


They should be ostracized from society for the filthy behavior they attempt to infect the public mores with.

Perhaps the same should happen with you, Senator.

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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:34 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Senator by allowing it you are encouraging it. Your nations poor will see this as a way to make easy money just like women who say they are "exotic dancers" saving for collage. And what will happen if and when these women get pregnant? Let me guess abortion right? And what about the children of the prostitution? do you want your nation youth growing up seeing their mothers sell themselves?

That is a falsehood, senator; Tolerating is not encouraging in any sense of the word.

If a person wishes to provide a service of which they have the skill to perform, who are we to say that they are not allowed to do so?

Regulation would mean they could be provided with means of mandated birth control.

Your attempt at this appeal to my emotions is not working, Senator. Many children see their parents grow up as government-employed killer, debt enforcers, and a plethora of other things that one might find objectionable, and yet these things remain legal.

Well then Senator if pleading to emotions will not work than there is not much else I can do to convince you that this is disgusting and wrong. Also Senator keep in mind birth control does not always work.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:36 pm

Beta Test wrote:
The new order of Hetalia7 wrote:Insurgency Prevention Act

1. All nations in the NSG Senate will provide military aid to countries that have been attacked by Terrorists or are having difficulties with Insurgents

2. Aid must be given to Dictatorships as well as Democratic nations'

3. All nations must contribute if possible

4. Governments that are Corporations would be given Financial Aid

5. the sex industry must be nationalized

6. Civil Wars will also count as insurgencies within a nation

7. As long as the governing body stands the insurgents will not be recognized as the current governing body

8. To help prevent insurgencies the NSG Senate must organize trade between nations with sub-standard armies, and nations that mass produce weapons, this helps many nations

9. Nations with no military will not be allowed to plea for aid

10. Anarchic nations will also not be allowed to request aid from the NSG Senate


Against completely.

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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:36 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Senator by allowing it you are encouraging it. Your nations poor will see this as a way to make easy money just like women who say they are "exotic dancers" saving for collage. And what will happen if and when these women get pregnant? Let me guess abortion right? And what about the children of the prostitution? do you want your nation youth growing up seeing their mothers sell themselves?

If they see their mothers selling themselves, they'll learn to accept that prostitution shouldn't be frowned upon and that their mothers are involved in the world's oldest profession. So in a way, Yes they should see that.

Senator are you saying that a child a CHILD! should see their mother make a living on here knees and be told it is okay to sell yourself sexually?
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:36 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Senator by allowing it you are encouraging it. Your nations poor will see this as a way to make easy money just like women who say they are "exotic dancers" saving for collage. And what will happen if and when these women get pregnant? Let me guess abortion right? And what about the children of the prostitution? do you want your nation youth growing up seeing their mothers sell themselves?

If they see their mothers selling themselves, they'll learn to accept that prostitution shouldn't be frowned upon and that their mothers are involved in the world's oldest profession. So in a way, Yes they should see that.

And they'll grow up seeing that their mothers and/or fathers are moralless sex objects with no dignity.
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Postby Uiiop » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:36 pm

The new order of Hetalia7 wrote:Insurgency Prevention Act

1. All nations in the NSG Senate will provide military aid to countries that have been attacked by Terrorists or are having difficulties with Insurgents

2. Aid must be given to Dictatorships as well as Democratic nations'

3. All nations must contribute if possible

4. Governments that are Corporations would be given Financial Aid

5. the sex industry must be nationalized

6. Civil Wars will also count as insurgencies within a nation

7. As long as the governing body stands the insurgents will not be recognized as the current governing body

8. To help prevent insurgencies the NSG Senate must organize trade between nations with sub-standard armies, and nations that mass produce weapons, this helps many nations

9. Nations with no military will not be allowed to plea for aid

10. Anarchic nations will also not be allowed to request aid from the NSG Senate

Senator? Your law seems to show signs of someone with "IC syndrome"...There are no nations here in this room other than the nation we're making laws about which is where we are right now.. .i'm afraid that you're going to respond using the Royal we and claiming yourself as a collective of a entire nation's government. So therefore Against
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:37 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:That is a falsehood, senator; Tolerating is not encouraging in any sense of the word.

If a person wishes to provide a service of which they have the skill to perform, who are we to say that they are not allowed to do so?

Regulation would mean they could be provided with means of mandated birth control.

Your attempt at this appeal to my emotions is not working, Senator. Many children see their parents grow up as government-employed killer, debt enforcers, and a plethora of other things that one might find objectionable, and yet these things remain legal.

Well then Senator if pleading to emotions will not work than there is not much else I can do to convince you that this is disgusting and wrong. Also Senator keep in mind birth control does not always work.

In which case abortion or adoption may be available for the mother.

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Postby Beta Test » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:37 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:The only moral issue with regards to prostitution is preventing abuse and exploitation, and ensuring that they are not ostracized for supplying a service that is demanded by society.

What you suggest is just sanctimonious garbage.


They should be ostracized from society for the filthy behavior they attempt to infect the public mores with. Simply "providing a service that is demanded" is not grounds to legalize this drivel. These people should be processed and sentenced to some prison time.


Prisons should be for Real criminals, like rapists and murderers.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:37 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:If they see their mothers selling themselves, they'll learn to accept that prostitution shouldn't be frowned upon and that their mothers are involved in the world's oldest profession. So in a way, Yes they should see that.

And they'll grow up seeing that their mothers and/or fathers are moralless sex objects with no dignity.

True and with that the child will either follow in their footsteps or end up scared for life from having a childhood seeing their mothers bring a few dozen or so men into her bed each night.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:37 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:That is a falsehood, senator; Tolerating is not encouraging in any sense of the word.

If a person wishes to provide a service of which they have the skill to perform, who are we to say that they are not allowed to do so?

Regulation would mean they could be provided with means of mandated birth control.

Your attempt at this appeal to my emotions is not working, Senator. Many children see their parents grow up as government-employed killer, debt enforcers, and a plethora of other things that one might find objectionable, and yet these things remain legal.

Well then Senator if pleading to emotions will not work than there is not much else I can do to convince you that this is disgusting and wrong. Also Senator keep in mind birth control does not always work.

Birth control doesn't always work, but I'm pretty sure abortion does.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:39 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:And they'll grow up seeing that their mothers and/or fathers are moralless sex objects with no dignity.

True and with that the child will either follow in their footsteps or end up scared for life from having a childhood seeing their mothers bring a few dozen or so men into her bed each night.

Or they may grow up with a parent that has to kill people in the service of their party or government. Or they may have to grow up with a parent that enforces debt upon the poor. Or they may have a parent that is party to such a corrupt institution as a democratic government.

And time will go on.

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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:39 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Well then Senator if pleading to emotions will not work than there is not much else I can do to convince you that this is disgusting and wrong. Also Senator keep in mind birth control does not always work.

Birth control doesn't always work, but I'm pretty sure abortion does.

Senator now you are encouraging murder of unborn children as well as women making a living on there knees.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:39 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Birth control doesn't always work, but I'm pretty sure abortion does.

Senator now you are encouraging murder of unborn children as well as women making a living on there knees.

Yes, and I'm proud of it.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:41 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Birth control doesn't always work, but I'm pretty sure abortion does.

Senator now you are encouraging murder of unborn children as well as women making a living on there knees.

Abortion is not murder morally nor legally, Senator, and men may work in the sex industry as well. Stop with your verbal discrimination.

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Postby Albul » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:41 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:If they see their mothers selling themselves, they'll learn to accept that prostitution shouldn't be frowned upon and that their mothers are involved in the world's oldest profession. So in a way, Yes they should see that.

Senator are you saying that a child a CHILD! should see their mother make a living on here knees and be told it is okay to sell yourself sexually?


It's better than having a child be told that their parents were kidnapped at a young age, then sold and bought and abused.
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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:41 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Senator now you are encouraging murder of unborn children as well as women making a living on there knees.

Yes, and I'm proud of it.

Of course you are Senator everyone knows the greatest people on earth are living blow up dolls that charge money for use.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:42 pm

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Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Yes, and I'm proud of it.

Of course you are Senator everyone knows the greatest people on earth are living blow up dolls that charge money for use.

I never said they were the greatest.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:43 pm

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Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Yes, and I'm proud of it.

Of course you are Senator everyone knows the greatest people on earth are living blow up dolls that charge money for use.

Kindly stop using such loaded and offensive language, Senator.

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Postby The Broken Imperial Sector » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:43 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:Of course you are Senator everyone knows the greatest people on earth are living blow up dolls that charge money for use.

I never said they were the greatest.

But you say you are proud of it Senator, is telling your nations people it's okay to make a living as a sex toy something to be proud of?
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:45 pm

The Broken Imperial Sector wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:I never said they were the greatest.

But you say you are proud of it Senator, is telling your nations people it's okay to make a living as a sex toy something to be proud of?

Yes, people work as all sorts of things for others amusement, like clowns. Should we ban clowns now?
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Postby Forster Keys » Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:46 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Forster Keys wrote:
This is all really OOC...


Ah, well, I did not know :blush: I thought it was all IC.

I must sound like an idiot now on my last statements.... :lol2:


No worries bro. :)
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