NSG Senate (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[Great Nepal]

Anything that does not harm non-users should be legal. By taking the drug, you are consenting to accept the consequences of it. As long as no nonconsenting person is harmed, there is no justification to ban the drug.

So what you're saying, Mr. Chairman, is that you're willing to legalise a drug that has the potential to have lethal effects only on the user? So you wish for health costs to go up? Is that right? Because if it is, then I am very worried about your opinion in healthcare...

On the contrary, drug users are likely to die early. This saves healthcare insurmountable amount of money on old age care and long term care.

[Regnum Dominae]

Anything that does not harm non-users should be legal. By taking the drug, you are consenting to accept the consequences of it. As long as no nonconsenting person is harmed, there is no justification to ban the drug.

So what you're saying, Mr. Chairman, is that you're willing to legalise a drug that has the potential to have lethal effects only on the user? So you wish for health costs to go up? Is that right? Because if it is, then I am very worried about your opinion in healthcare...

Yes, if the user is willing to take risks and that is their choice. And their are many drugs like marijuana and LSD that have no lasting negative effects...

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

So what you're saying, Mr. Chairman, is that you're willing to legalise a drug that has the potential to have lethal effects only on the user? So you wish for health costs to go up? Is that right? Because if it is, then I am very worried about your opinion in healthcare...

Yes, if the user is willing to take risks and that is their choice. And their are many drugs like marijuana and LSD that have no lasting negative effects...

Don't you mean the long term effects of using those drugs are as of yet unknown...

[Regnum Dominae]

Yes, if the user is willing to take risks and that is their choice. And their are many drugs like marijuana and LSD that have no lasting negative effects...

Don't you mean the long term effects of using those drugs are as of yet unknown...

Irrelevant.

[Vietnam]

Anything that does not harm non-users should be legal. By taking the drug, you are consenting to accept the consequences of it. As long as no nonconsenting person is harmed, there is no justification to ban the drug.

So what you're saying, Mr. Chairman, is that you're willing to legalise a drug that has the potential to have lethal effects only on the user? So you wish for health costs to go up? Is that right? Because if it is, then I am very worried about your opinion in healthcare...

Are healthcare care costs going up more wrong than restricting people's personal freedom?

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

So what you're saying, Mr. Chairman, is that you're willing to legalise a drug that has the potential to have lethal effects only on the user? So you wish for health costs to go up? Is that right? Because if it is, then I am very worried about your opinion in healthcare...

Are healthcare care costs going up more wrong than restricting people's personal freedom?

Yes, when that personal freedom is going to kill them, for example if you were the leader of this nation, and you wanted to... How you say... *Reproduce* with a cactus in front of live television, would you? (Just because you wanted to and that there are no laws that say so otherwise...)

[Azurand]

So what you're saying, Mr. Chairman, is that you're willing to legalise a drug that has the potential to have lethal effects only on the user? So you wish for health costs to go up? Is that right? Because if it is, then I am very worried about your opinion in healthcare...

Are healthcare care costs going up more wrong than restricting people's personal freedom?

Yes, it is.

[Vietnam]

Are healthcare care costs going up more wrong than restricting people's personal freedom?

Yes, when that personal freedom is going to kill them, for example if you were the leader of this nation, and you wanted to... How you say... *Reproduce* with a cactus in front of live television, would you? (Just because you wanted to and that there are no laws that say so otherwise...)

Is there something wrong with having sex with a cactus on live TV if I really wanted to?

[Vietnam]

Are healthcare care costs going up more wrong than restricting people's personal freedom?

Yes, it is.

How so?

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Yes, when that personal freedom is going to kill them, for example if you were the leader of this nation, and you wanted to... How you say... *Reproduce* with a cactus in front of live television, would you? (Just because you wanted to and that there are no laws that say so otherwise...)

Is there something wrong with having sex with a cactus on live TV if I really wanted to?

If you were the leader of the nation, yes...
Mr. Chairman, you are being ridiculous, not just on tax policies, but also in normal common sensical views...

[Vietnam]

Is there something wrong with having sex with a cactus on live TV if I really wanted to?

If you were the leader of the nation, yes...

How? What's wrong with it?

Mr. Chairman, you are being ridiculous, not just on tax policies, but also in normal common sensical views...

Senator, this is not a real argument.

[Great Nepal]

Are healthcare care costs going up more wrong than restricting people's personal freedom?

Yes, when that personal freedom is going to kill them, for example if you were the leader of this nation, and you wanted to... How you say... *Reproduce* with a cactus in front of live television, would you? (Just because you wanted to and that there are no laws that say so otherwise...)

"As per my biological knowledge, I do not believe homo sapiens are capable of reproducing with cactus. I would just like to conform this with an expert biologist however." Senator calls a biologist, who conforms that reproduction between human and cactus is not currently possible before returning, "as I suspected. That was an expert biologist who has received doctorate of Science in human reproduction and he conforms that despite of inter-species mating research, as it currently stands, humans can not reproduce with Cactus. Thus, your question regarding reproduction with cactus, like zombie eaten from legs down does not have legs to stand on." Senator smiles as he takes sip of coffee before continuing, "on the first point however, I disagree. Its their body, not yours therefore they must be free to cause harm to themselves and no one else through their actions or inaction for that matter."

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

If you were the leader of the nation, yes...

How? What's wrong with it?

Mr. Chairman, you are being ridiculous, not just on tax policies, but also in normal common sensical views...

Senator, this is not a real argument.

What you are implying Mr. Chairman, is that no matter how wrong something is, that if there is no law (and let me remind the leftist honourable gentlemen that this country still doesn't have any laws) and what you want to do affects your personal freedom, then you will still do it even if it is morally wrong, gentlemen we are the elected representation of this nation, start acting like it.
Good evening...

[Priory Academy USSR]

How? What's wrong with it?


Senator, this is not a real argument.

What you are implying Mr. Chairman, that no matter how wrong something is, that if there is no law (and let me remind the leftist honourable gentlemen that this country still doesn't have any laws) and what you want to do affects your personal freedom, then you will still do it even if it is morally wrong, gentlemen we are the elected representation of this nation, start acting like it.
Good evening...

Define 'morally wrong'.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

What you are implying Mr. Chairman, that no matter how wrong something is, that if there is no law (and let me remind the leftist honourable gentlemen that this country still doesn't have any laws) and what you want to do affects your personal freedom, then you will still do it even if it is morally wrong, gentlemen we are the elected representation of this nation, start acting like it.
Good evening...

Define 'morally wrong'.

Let's see, well reproducing with a cactus in front of live television is one for starters...

[Great Nepal]

How? What's wrong with it?


Senator, this is not a real argument.

What you are implying Mr. Chairman, is that no matter how wrong something is, that if there is no law (and let me remind the leftist honourable gentlemen that this country still doesn't have any laws) and what you want to do affects your personal freedom, then you will still do it even if it is morally wrong, gentlemen we are the elected representation of this nation, start acting like it.
Good evening...

"Morality is something that must be left up to individuals and are not subject to laws and decisions made in this senate must have their basis on logic and reason not indivudal morals."

[Vietnam]

How? What's wrong with it?


Senator, this is not a real argument.

What you are implying Mr. Chairman, is that no matter how wrong something is, that if there is no law (and let me remind the leftist honourable gentlemen that this country still doesn't have any laws) and what you want to do affects your personal freedom, then you will still do it even if it is morally wrong, gentlemen we are the elected representation of this nation, start acting like it.
Good evening...

Having sex with a cactus is morally wrong?

I mean, seriously, this is an argument that homophobes use against same-sex marriage.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Define 'morally wrong'.

Let's see, well reproducing with a cactus in front of live television is one for starters...

That is indecent and utterly ridiculous, not "morally wrong".

Define morality.

[Great Nepal]

Having sex with a cactus is morally wrong?

I mean, seriously, this is an argument that homophobes use against same-sex marriage.

I dont believe senator stated, having sex with cactus to be morally wrong but rather having babies with cactus to be immoral... which does not make it much better however just makes it impossible.

[Vietnam]

Having sex with a cactus is morally wrong?

I mean, seriously, this is an argument that homophobes use against same-sex marriage.

I dont believe senator stated, having sex with cactus to be morally wrong but rather having babies with cactus to be immoral... which does not make it much better however just makes it impossible.

Bwahaha, agreed.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

What you are implying Mr. Chairman, is that no matter how wrong something is, that if there is no law (and let me remind the leftist honourable gentlemen that this country still doesn't have any laws) and what you want to do affects your personal freedom, then you will still do it even if it is morally wrong, gentlemen we are the elected representation of this nation, start acting like it.
Good evening...

"Morality is something that must be left up to individuals and are not subject to laws and decisions made in this senate must have their basis on logic and reason not indivudal morals."

Mr. Senator, what do you think makes up morals? Is it not the common sense or clear reason of a person that makes up morals? For may I remind you, that morals are things/beliefs that are held dear because they are right and have been proven, this is what I define as a moral gentlemen, and morals are the ingredient of logic and reason, if I could remind the council...

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I dont believe senator stated, having sex with cactus to be morally wrong but rather having babies with cactus to be immoral... which does not make it much better however just makes it impossible.

Bwahaha, agreed.

I am such a horrible senator

[Soldati Senza Confini]

"Morality is something that must be left up to individuals and are not subject to laws and decisions made in this senate must have their basis on logic and reason not indivudal morals."

Mr. Senator, what do you think makes up morals? Is it not the common sense or clear reason of a person that makes up morals? For may I remind you, that morals are things/beliefs that are held dear because they are right and have been proven, this is what I define as a moral gentlemen, and morals are the ingredient of logic and reason, if I could remind the council...

"Right and proven" is different from it being "moral", it's a merely pragmatic thing.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Let's see, well reproducing with a cactus in front of live television is one for starters...

That is indecent and utterly ridiculous, not "morally wrong".

Define morality.

And yet he said he would do it if he wanted to, for he has the *freedom* to.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Bwahaha, agreed.

I am such a horrible senator

You got that one right...