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Regnum Dominae
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:14 pm

North-West Molovsky wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
That is similar to my own views. I Think we are after a very slightly progressive income tax system but low at rates between 25-35%. i personally don't mind high sales tax because that means those that use a good pay for its externalities.

And with regards to the formation of a military? What organizational strucure are we to follow? American or British?

Have you considered the Libertarian Freedom Party?
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:15 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
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Yes being brainwashed by the US army explains a lot. Nothing wrong with making a soldier believe in himself but you have to realize it is propaganda designed to do this to you, make you feel superior.


Brainwashed? Please; While i have suffered and toiled in my Role it has only furthered my Belief's.

I would suggest this topic rest now given the possibility of insult occuring is increasingly likely.


Only if you continue to not accept and recognize the important part of military training is making the recruit believe he is the best and invincible. An army that did not really would be shit.
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:16 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
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He is talking about the PC party. :palm:


I merely offered another Party's Or rather My own perspective.

While it wasn't exactly asked for it isn't actually a bad thing either to have perpsective of Multiple viewpoints rather then just the singular one.

Don't you agree?


Of course but you should have stated you are from a different party. He might get confused.

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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:18 pm

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Brainwashed? Please; While i have suffered and toiled in my Role it has only furthered my Belief's.

I would suggest this topic rest now given the possibility of insult occuring is increasingly likely.


Only if you continue to not accept and important part of military training is making the recruit believe he is the best and invincible. An army that did not really would be shit.


I was Trained to become an Instrument to the State.

I accept that and it fits within my Idealogy quite nicely.

But you sort of lose the "Illusions" Of Youth when You come back missing portions of Yourself.

Again however i would prefer this drop.

And as far as training and investment? Given the sheer expense in maintaining and training People in order to become soldiers? I believe they are a more useful Utility then most.

A higher grade of instrument i suppose but that didn't color me as what you intended.
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Postby North-West Molovsky » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:25 pm

Intercenine party conflict aside, I merely asked as to whther it would be between american and british military structures because i thought they were most likely to be supported on the senate floor. Personally I admire the organizational structure of the wehrmacht in the second world war and would apadpt it to a modern army in the best fashion possible.
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Postby Fulflood » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:34 pm

v6 of Presidential Matrix

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Aeken AEK
Alaje ALA
Bleckonia BLE
Ceni CEN
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Freedomsran FRE
FreeSoc FSOC
Grenartia GRE
Lanos LAN
New Sea Territory NST
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Quirina QUI
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Regnum Dominae REG
Soldati Senza Confini SSC
TaQud TAQ
USSR USSR (duh)

Green - strongly for
Lt. green - generally for, some concessions
Yellow - moderate/neutral
Orange - generally against, some concessions
Red - strongly against
White - no opinion stated

I will happily receive TGs if it's wrong, and will change it, but I'm not looking through pages and pages of thread to find any criticisms.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:41 pm

North-West Molovsky wrote:Intercenine party conflict aside, I merely asked as to whther it would be between american and british military structures because i thought they were most likely to be supported on the senate floor. Personally I admire the organizational structure of the wehrmacht in the second world war and would apadpt it to a modern army in the best fashion possible.


Would be extremely difficult to convince the Senate to do this although i would approve of such a strong and well funded Military Force.

A Military of more then twenty million though...I view that as a bit Too large but i also would look at the Needed Industrial factors in supplying and equiping such a force.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:54 pm

Fulflood wrote:v6 of Presidential Matrix

(Image)

Key to names
Aeken AEK
Alaje ALA
Bleckonia BLE
Ceni CEN
Finium FIN
Freedomsran FRE
FreeSoc FSOC
Grenartia GRE
Lanos LAN
New Sea Territory NST
Pragia PRA
Quirina QUI
Realm of God ROG
Regnum Dominae REG
Soldati Senza Confini SSC
TaQud TAQ
USSR USSR (duh)

Green - strongly for
Lt. green - generally for, some concessions
Yellow - moderate/neutral
Orange - generally against, some concessions
Red - strongly against
White - no opinion stated

I will happily receive TGs if it's wrong, and will change it, but I'm not looking through pages and pages of thread to find any criticisms.

WOW! Great job!

TG sent.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:08 pm

I would like to express my support for my fellow partymembers, the Honorable Senators Aeken and Bleckonia.
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Postby Quirina » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:18 pm

Calling me an independent? That will be the first and last. The Republicans are coming.
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Postby Conkerials » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:32 pm

I'm assuming I can still apply for senatorial service?
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Postby Lemanrussland » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:35 pm

Conkerials wrote:I'm assuming I can still apply for senatorial service?

Yes.

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Postby Aeken » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:39 pm

Conkerials wrote:I'm assuming I can still apply for senatorial service?

Any party you are looking to join?

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Postby Geilinor » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:45 pm

Aeken wrote:
Conkerials wrote:I'm assuming I can still apply for senatorial service?

Any party you are looking to join?

According to his sig, it certainly won't be our party.
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Postby Aeken » Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:45 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Aeken wrote:Any party you are looking to join?

According to his sig, it certainly won't be our party.

Aww, that's too bad. Should've looked at that first. :oops:

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Postby Divair » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:28 pm

Quirina wrote:Calling me an independent? That will be the first and last. The Republicans are coming.

You're an independent until your party is recognized. And currently, it isn't.

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Postby Greater Pokarnia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:33 pm

I intend to join this in 4 days when I've been here for a month. Granted, I've been on NS for longer than a month, but that was many years ago and that nation no longer exists. I didn't use the forums back then either. So I'll apply in 4 days.

In the meantime, I'm trying to see if there's a party I agree with enough to join. Currently considering the Totally Rad, Liberal Democrat, and Communist parties.
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Postby Divair » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:34 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:I intend to join this in 4 days when I've been here for a month. Granted, I've been on NS for longer than a month, but that was many years ago and that nation no longer exists. I didn't use the forums back then either. So I'll apply in 4 days.

In the meantime, I'm trying to see if there's a party I agree with enough to join. Currently considering the Totally Rad, Liberal Democrat, and Communist parties.

If you'd like to ask any questions to help you make a decision, feel free to contact me.

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Postby Aeken » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:35 pm

Greater Pokarnia wrote:I intend to join this in 4 days when I've been here for a month. Granted, I've been on NS for longer than a month, but that was many years ago and that nation no longer exists. I didn't use the forums back then either. So I'll apply in 4 days.

In the meantime, I'm trying to see if there's a party I agree with enough to join. Currently considering the Totally Rad, Liberal Democrat, and Communist parties.

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Greater Pokarnia wrote:I intend to join this in 4 days when I've been here for a month. Granted, I've been on NS for longer than a month, but that was many years ago and that nation no longer exists. I didn't use the forums back then either. So I'll apply in 4 days.

In the meantime, I'm trying to see if there's a party I agree with enough to join. Currently considering the Totally Rad, Liberal Democrat, and Communist parties.

If you'd like to ask any questions to help you make a decision, feel free to contact me.

Here's the Liberal Democrat link. Feel free to ask me or any other online member. viewtopic.php?f=25&t=236917

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Postby Seelelander » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:35 pm

I, and Comrade New Freedomstan happily offer our hands open to welcome any new potential party members to add to the Cadre.

Also

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Postby Glasgia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:31 pm

Seelelander wrote:I, and Comrade New Freedomstan happily offer our hands open to welcome any new potential party members to add to the Cadre.

Also

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No matter the cuteness (not sure whether it's that cute considering when under you they'll be trained to guard gulags), advertising isn't allowed in this thread.
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Postby CTALNH » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:32 pm

Glasgia wrote:
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You propose placing our Nation under FOREIGN MARTIAL LAW.

Completely against this Insane Proposal.


Well, the current plan for my history involves us being a British possession until some point after WW2, so it would make sense. And, I doubt we'd be under martial law. Just regular British law.

I don't like that
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Postby Aeken » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:33 pm

Glasgia wrote:
Seelelander wrote:I, and Comrade New Freedomstan happily offer our hands open to welcome any new potential party members to add to the Cadre.

Also

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No matter the cuteness (not sure whether it's that cute considering when under you they'll be trained to guard gulags), advertising isn't allowed in this thread.

I like what you said there, Senator. :p

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Postby Seelelander » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:34 pm

Don't be silly Glasgia, those puppies aren't for guarding the Gulags which we can neither confirm or deny the existence of. They'd be terrible at it, after all. They're for hunting stoats for fashionable jackboots.

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Postby CTALNH » Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:35 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:
OH....ok. Nvm then.


Still against it being the Bloody UK.

Would prefer it being any handful of despotic Expansionist Poweres through out reality then the English.

._. not joking i would friggin take the Ottomans over the english.

Beh.

Seconded we could also merge the Nationalist and Communist liberation forces to fight them
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