NSG Senate Lobby (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[Imperiatom]

Welcome! Any thoughts as to which party you'd be interested in joining?

I'm interested in joining the objectivist party. Although i am open to others should you want me as a member, as a rule though i amnot in favor of party's that harbor a leftist view of economics.

Join the Progressive conservatives then. we follow right wing economic policies.

[Imperiatom]

Oh deary me. I presume you are american?

An Impulsive and Incorrect Presumption.

Argentinian?

[Ceannairceach]

No, your point is not valid. The British would supply military advisers free of charge in this scenario. Any gripes you have regarding debt are unfounded.

Nothing is provided for "Free" Espeically in the dealing of Nations in international Politics and given that their Advisors are not needed there is no reason to accept the aid that would certainly have strings attached.

In fact while this entire "Historical" Notion is up to the Light; Why exactly is this colony being granted Self Rule? The English Cling to their Final Colonies.

In this case it is free with no strings. Deal with it.

Advisers are needed since we have no armed forces, nor any people of sufficient skill or knowledge to form it practically.

Referendum. Its been established as a method of freeing a nation from British rule before, and they consider it regarding remaining colonies (ie Falklands) to this day.

[The Zeonic States]

An Impulsive and Incorrect Presumption.

Argentinian?

No.

Would you prefer i just tell you where i am from originally?

Nothing is provided for "Free" Espeically in the dealing of Nations in international Politics and given that their Advisors are not needed there is no reason to accept the aid that would certainly have strings attached.

In fact while this entire "Historical" Notion is up to the Light; Why exactly is this colony being granted Self Rule? The English Cling to their Final Colonies.

In this case it is free with no strings. Deal with it.

Advisers are needed since we have no armed forces, nor any people of sufficient skill or knowledge to form it practically.

Referendum. Its been established as a method of freeing a nation from British rule before, and they consider it regarding remaining colonies (ie Falklands) to this day.

Then You Form an National Scale Militia for the short term and place it under the command of the Senate and appoint and advisory Panel to form the General Staff. And then later on begin industrialization and Production for the Military Outright. And the Finally Intergrate the Militia into a Armed Forces once the Establishment of a War College has Occured. By this point due to Industrialization you will have the ability for the Military to begin production runs for begin outright Mobilization if the need arose.

You will have a Nationalistic Military Force and it wouldn't require a dime of Foreign Influence.

It merely be a larger scale project but it is HARDLY impossible.

In Reality there is no real reason for the Foreign Military Presence to be needed at all.

[Imperiatom]

Nothing is provided for "Free" Espeically in the dealing of Nations in international Politics and given that their Advisors are not needed there is no reason to accept the aid that would certainly have strings attached.

In fact while this entire "Historical" Notion is up to the Light; Why exactly is this colony being granted Self Rule? The English Cling to their Final Colonies.

In this case it is free with no strings. Deal with it.

Advisers are needed since we have no armed forces, nor any people of sufficient skill or knowledge to form it practically.

Referendum. Its been established as a method of freeing a nation from British rule before, and they consider it regarding remaining colonies (ie Falklands) to this day.

Exactly. Those that are a overseas territory or have the Queen as head of state still do so because it is their choice to do so. Just because you are jealous that some countries want to keep ties to the UK and their heritage. We are not clinging, if anything its the other way around.

[Imperiatom]

Argentinian?

No.

Would you prefer i just tell you where i am from originally?

In this case it is free with no strings. Deal with it.

Advisers are needed since we have no armed forces, nor any people of sufficient skill or knowledge to form it practically.

Referendum. Its been established as a method of freeing a nation from British rule before, and they consider it regarding remaining colonies (ie Falklands) to this day.

Then You Form an National Scale Militia for the short term and place it under the command of the Senate and appoint and advisory Panel to form the General Staff. And then later on begin industrialization and Production for the Military Outright. And the Finally Intergrate the Militia into a Armed Forces once the Establishment of a War College has Occured. By this point due to Industrialization you will have the ability for the Military to begin production runs for begin outright Mobilization if the need arose.

You will have a Nationalistic Military Force and it wouldn't require a dime of Foreign Influence.

It merely be a larger scale project but it is HARDLY impossible.

In Reality there is no real reason for the Foreign Military Presence to be needed at all.

That is generally the idea when somebody asks a question.

[Pragia]

Why was I removed from the election? I do not recall stepping down.

[Imperiatom]

Argentinian?

No.

Would you prefer i just tell you where i am from originally?

In this case it is free with no strings. Deal with it.

Advisers are needed since we have no armed forces, nor any people of sufficient skill or knowledge to form it practically.

Referendum. Its been established as a method of freeing a nation from British rule before, and they consider it regarding remaining colonies (ie Falklands) to this day.

Then You Form an National Scale Militia for the short term and place it under the command of the Senate and appoint and advisory Panel to form the General Staff. And then later on begin industrialization and Production for the Military Outright. And the Finally Intergrate the Militia into a Armed Forces once the Establishment of a War College has Occured. By this point due to Industrialization you will have the ability for the Military to begin production runs for begin outright Mobilization if the need arose.

You will have a Nationalistic Military Force and it wouldn't require a dime of Foreign Influence.

It merely be a larger scale project but it is HARDLY impossible.

In Reality there is no real reason for the Foreign Military Presence to be needed at all.

If we have no advice we don't know how to fight wars. So to acquire that info we must then go to war for the sake of getting that information.

[The Zeonic States]

No.

Would you prefer i just tell you where i am from originally?



Then You Form an National Scale Militia for the short term and place it under the command of the Senate and appoint and advisory Panel to form the General Staff. And then later on begin industrialization and Production for the Military Outright. And the Finally Intergrate the Militia into a Armed Forces once the Establishment of a War College has Occured. By this point due to Industrialization you will have the ability for the Military to begin production runs for begin outright Mobilization if the need arose.

You will have a Nationalistic Military Force and it wouldn't require a dime of Foreign Influence.

It merely be a larger scale project but it is HARDLY impossible.

In Reality there is no real reason for the Foreign Military Presence to be needed at all.

That is generally the idea when somebody asks a question.

Then i will tell you quite frankly presuming Nation of Orgin and then guessing isn't exactly asking a question.

That said; Norway Orginally.

Educated in Germany for the Most Part, Live in The United States.

[Imperiatom]

That is generally the idea when somebody asks a question.

Then i will tell you quite frankly presuming Nation of Orgin and then guessing isn't exactly asking a question.

That said; Norway Orginally.

Educated in Germany for the Most Part, Live in The United States.

Alien or citizen?

EDIT: Also explains your views.

[North-West Molovsky]

I'm interested in joining the objectivist party. Although i am open to others should you want me as a member, as a rule though i amnot in favor of party's that harbor a leftist view of economics.

Join the Progressive conservatives then. we follow right wing economic policies.

I've read your platform, and while I disagree with your tax policies, I would be willing to join if you tell me one more thing. What is your inheritance tax policy?

[Imperiatom]

Join the Progressive conservatives then. we follow right wing economic policies.

I've read your platform, and while I disagree with your tax policies, I would be willing to join if you tell me one more thing. What is your inheritance tax policy?

Well my own view is as little as possible. We did keep it out of the national tax bill . Its sort of a conscience issue though.(we don't really mind as long as its not excessive)

What are your tax views?

[The Zeonic States]

No.

Would you prefer i just tell you where i am from originally?



Then You Form an National Scale Militia for the short term and place it under the command of the Senate and appoint and advisory Panel to form the General Staff. And then later on begin industrialization and Production for the Military Outright. And the Finally Intergrate the Militia into a Armed Forces once the Establishment of a War College has Occured. By this point due to Industrialization you will have the ability for the Military to begin production runs for begin outright Mobilization if the need arose.

You will have a Nationalistic Military Force and it wouldn't require a dime of Foreign Influence.

It merely be a larger scale project but it is HARDLY impossible.

In Reality there is no real reason for the Foreign Military Presence to be needed at all.

If we have no advice we don't know how to fight wars. So to acquire that info we must then go to war for the sake of getting that information.

Information? Is our Nation Made up of illiterates and Fools? If so i suggest Mandated Public Education but that can wait for another day.

It isn't a simple task but it isn't a overly difficult concept.

For the Creation of a Military you must have a source people, Resources to maintain it, Faculities for Production and a method for Mobilization.

As for actual Warfare? And preparing men and women to fight in conflict? We can as i have said earlier Form own Method of conduct via a war college that is the Initial duty of every War College. Form the Method of Conduct and Behavior Regulations Along with Preparing the forces for a Battle Field as best they can.

Expreinced Hands while they can be "Useful" Debatably are not a needed factor in the Initial Creation.

If anything that is a later goal; and given that this Military Force will be comprised of Nationals even with out expreince they will have the advantage in knowledge of Landscape; Terrain usually favors Defenders and given that i cannot see this Body ever engaging in a war of Conquest i do not believe that it would be needed for more then a defensive capacity.

[North-West Molovsky]

I've read your platform, and while I disagree with your tax policies, I would be willing to join if you tell me one more thing. What is your inheritance tax policy?

Well my own view is as little as possible. We did keep it out of the national tax bill . Its sort of a conscience issue though.(we don't really mind as long as its not excessive)

What are your tax views?

I am in favor of a flat tax, and a high sales tax. I would like for the inheritance talk to be totally abolished.

[The Zeonic States]

Then i will tell you quite frankly presuming Nation of Orgin and then guessing isn't exactly asking a question.

That said; Norway Orginally.

Educated in Germany for the Most Part, Live in The United States.

Alien or citizen?

EDIT: Also explains your views.

Citizen; Served Two assigned Deployments in the Army Before Retiring and Going into the Private Sector.

And people generally understand why i feel the why i do after learning of my life a bit.

[Imperiatom]

Well my own view is as little as possible. We did keep it out of the national tax bill . Its sort of a conscience issue though.(we don't really mind as long as its not excessive)

What are your tax views?

I am in favor of a flat tax, and a high sales tax. I would like for the inheritance talk to be totally abolished.

That is similar to my own views. I Think we are after a very slightly progressive income tax system but low at rates between 25-35%. i personally don't mind high sales tax because that means those that use a good pay for its externalities.

[North-West Molovsky]

I am in favor of a flat tax, and a high sales tax. I would like for the inheritance talk to be totally abolished.

That is similar to my own views. I Think we are after a very slightly progressive income tax system but low at rates between 25-35%. i personally don't mind high sales tax because that means those that use a good pay for its externalities.

And with regards to the formation of a military? What organizational strucure are we to follow? American or British?

[Imperiatom]

Alien or citizen?

EDIT: Also explains your views.

Citizen; Served Two assigned Deployments in the Army Before Retiring and Going into the Private Sector.

And people generally understand why i feel the why i do after learning of my life a bit.

Yes being brainwashed by the US army explains a lot. Nothing wrong with making a soldier believe in himself but you have to realize it is propaganda designed to do this to you, make you feel superior.

[Evraim]

That is similar to my own views. I Think we are after a very slightly progressive income tax system but low at rates between 25-35%. i personally don't mind high sales tax because that means those that use a good pay for its externalities.

And with regards to the formation of a military? What organizational strucure are we to follow? American or British?

Mongolian.

[Imperiatom]

That is similar to my own views. I Think we are after a very slightly progressive income tax system but low at rates between 25-35%. i personally don't mind high sales tax because that means those that use a good pay for its externalities.

And with regards to the formation of a military? What organizational strucure are we to follow? American or British?

We for the most part favor the British since our army is for defense only and is limited to 200,000 men so it makes sense to model it on an army of a similar size with a similar mission. There are many in the senate who also favor a small military budget so a US style is not really an option.

[The Zeonic States]

That is similar to my own views. I Think we are after a very slightly progressive income tax system but low at rates between 25-35%. i personally don't mind high sales tax because that means those that use a good pay for its externalities.

And with regards to the formation of a military? What organizational strucure are we to follow? American or British?

In Regards to formation and overal Build i would prefer the Turkish Model over those Two Present choices however if i was restricted to the two i would relucantly lean towards the United State's Formation.

Given that Paramilitary Orginizations we already have in place could in effect act as Gendarmerie if recognized; Within such a role. However that would go in conflict with Lesgilation that May or May not be passed in the near Future.

[Imperiatom]

And with regards to the formation of a military? What organizational strucure are we to follow? American or British?

Mongolian.

I think the Liberals will have something to say about our use of steppe pony's

[Imperiatom]

And with regards to the formation of a military? What organizational strucure are we to follow? American or British?

In Regards to formation and overal Build i would prefer the Turkish Model over those Two Present choices however if i was restricted to the two i would relucantly lean towards the United State's Formation.

Given that Paramilitary Orginizations we already have in place could in effect act as Gendarmerie if recognized; Within such a role. However that would go in conflict with Lesgilation that May or May not be passed in the near Future.

He is talking about the PC party.

[The Zeonic States]

Citizen; Served Two assigned Deployments in the Army Before Retiring and Going into the Private Sector.

And people generally understand why i feel the why i do after learning of my life a bit.

Yes being brainwashed by the US army explains a lot. Nothing wrong with making a soldier believe in himself but you have to realize it is propaganda designed to do this to you, make you feel superior.

Brainwashed? Please; While i have suffered and toiled in my Role it has only furthered my Belief's.

I would suggest this topic rest now given the possibility of insult occuring is increasingly likely.

[The Zeonic States]

In Regards to formation and overal Build i would prefer the Turkish Model over those Two Present choices however if i was restricted to the two i would relucantly lean towards the United State's Formation.

Given that Paramilitary Orginizations we already have in place could in effect act as Gendarmerie if recognized; Within such a role. However that would go in conflict with Lesgilation that May or May not be passed in the near Future.

He is talking about the PC party.

I merely offered another Party's Or rather My own perspective.

While it wasn't exactly asked for it isn't actually a bad thing either to have perpsective of Multiple viewpoints rather then just the singular one.

Don't you agree?