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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:23 pm

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Great Nepal wrote:Can I get a link? I mean, it doesn't make sense that they would do so...


"Delta Force was formed after numerous, well-publicized terrorist incidents in the 1970s. These incidents led the U.S. government to develop a full-time counter-terrorism unit. Key military and government figures had already been briefed on a model for this type of unit in the early 1960s. Charlie Beckwith, a Special Forces officer and Vietnam veteran, had served as an exchange officer with the British Army's Special Air Service (22 SAS Regiment) during the Malayan Emergency. Upon his return, Beckwith presented a detailed report highlighting the U.S. Army's vulnerability in not having an SAS-type unit" The formation of delta force is just one of many examples.

Yea, I dont think rebelious former colony's entire army is comparable to US one division.
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Postby Kouralia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:24 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Who says the Gurkha rifles are the best units in the British Army?
I'd like to see them out-jump the Paras, out tank the RTR, out shoot the Gunners, out drive the Loggies, out signal the Signals, out Infantry 3 Commando Brigade and out fly the AAC.

They are troops who are the most all round unit in British army, they are the most brave and skilled ones as evidenced by incident when one Gurkha repelled attack by thirty or so Talibans in Afghanistan (or something like that).


Jesus tittyfucking christ...

This means nothing John Snow. Nothing.

What makes them this? The fact that a Gurkha did that? The PWRR survived nearly 6 months (i.e., an entire tour) of continuous contact. IIRC it was the longest sustained contact of the British Army since WWII. Do they get a pat on the back, or are they inferior to the mighty Gurkhas?

Gurkhas are cool and all, and ferocious as fuck, but are like the Marines. US Marines. Some crazy as hell myth makes them seem to be godlike when they are but men.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:24 pm

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Great Nepal wrote:40 men who are loyal to money. What is worst damage they can do? May be burn down the training facility before being shot.


Somebody comes along with more money and buys them so they sell information.

Every single one of them?
Even if that happened, we are in same situation you are suggesting since under your proposal, British have all of information by default. Except in this case, it will require someone to buy out all of the generals.
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:26 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
"Delta Force was formed after numerous, well-publicized terrorist incidents in the 1970s. These incidents led the U.S. government to develop a full-time counter-terrorism unit. Key military and government figures had already been briefed on a model for this type of unit in the early 1960s. Charlie Beckwith, a Special Forces officer and Vietnam veteran, had served as an exchange officer with the British Army's Special Air Service (22 SAS Regiment) during the Malayan Emergency. Upon his return, Beckwith presented a detailed report highlighting the U.S. Army's vulnerability in not having an SAS-type unit" The formation of delta force is just one of many examples.

Yea, I dont think rebelious former colony's entire army is comparable to US one division.


The Indian army then. That is a fairly large in size.

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Postby The Realm of God » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:27 pm

Isarabaeum wrote:"Punk album? What's that?" The young King asked in curiosity.


Eh, Punk Rock? You don't know what that is? Go down to Camden Market.
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Postby Isarabaeum » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:30 pm

"No, I know what that is." He said back to him. "I just didn't know what that had to do with what we were talking about here, that's all." He laughed a bit afterwards, and continued to smile. He always tried to be a jolly king himself.

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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:30 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
Somebody comes along with more money and buys them so they sell information.

Every single one of them?
Even if that happened, we are in same situation you are suggesting since under your proposal, British have all of information by default. Except in this case, it will require someone to buy out all of the generals.


In this case just the British know. In your case anybody who wanted to know something could pay for it and all the country's involved know how we train. Which is safer 1 nation knowing or anybody who wants to know? incidentally the British are leaving they don't want to come back so it does not matter that they know whilst anybody who is willing to pay for the information is likely to want to use that information. Which is a greater national security risk?

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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:32 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:They are troops who are the most all round unit in British army, they are the most brave and skilled ones as evidenced by incident when one Gurkha repelled attack by thirty or so Talibans in Afghanistan (or something like that).


Jesus tittyfucking christ...

This means nothing John Snow. Nothing.

What makes them this? The fact that a Gurkha did that? The PWRR survived nearly 6 months (i.e., an entire tour) of continuous contact. IIRC it was the longest sustained contact of the British Army since WWII. Do they get a pat on the back, or are they inferior to the mighty Gurkhas?

Gurkhas are cool and all, and ferocious as fuck, but are like the Marines. US Marines. Some crazy as hell myth makes them seem to be godlike when they are but men.


Don't get me started on the US marines!

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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:33 pm

Imperiatom wrote:In this case just the British know. In your case anybody who wanted to know something could pay for it and all the country's involved know how we train. Which is safer 1 nation knowing or anybody who wants to know? incidentally the British are leaving they don't want to come back so it does not matter that they know whilst anybody who is willing to pay for the information is likely to want to use that information. Which is a greater national security risk?

Seeing, we can neutralise threat in my proposal by few motorway accidents involving said generals while in your case involves nuking of London, I think your proposal is a greater national security risk.

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Great Nepal wrote:Yea, I dont think rebelious former colony's entire army is comparable to US one division.


The Indian army then. That is a fairly large in size.

I am not seeing anything about elite British training here.

@Kouralia: I will come back to your argument against Gurkhas tommorow evening. Scrap that, I will respond to everything after this including that tommorow evening.
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Postby Isarabaeum » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:33 pm

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:35 pm

Are were still arguing over the army thing...good lord people. :palm:
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:36 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:In this case just the British know. In your case anybody who wanted to know something could pay for it and all the country's involved know how we train. Which is safer 1 nation knowing or anybody who wants to know? incidentally the British are leaving they don't want to come back so it does not matter that they know whilst anybody who is willing to pay for the information is likely to want to use that information. Which is a greater national security risk?

Seeing, we can neutralise threat in my proposal by few motorway accidents involving said generals while in your case involves nuking of London, I think your proposal is a greater national security risk.

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The Indian army then. That is a fairly large in size.

I am not seeing anything about elite British training here.

@Kouralia: I will come back to your argument against Gurkhas tommorow evening.


When they left in 1947 the Indian army was the same standard as the regular British army.

To your first point stop clutching at straws. Its to late once they have sold the information

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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:37 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:Are were still arguing over the army thing...good lord people. :palm:


We have some problems Zweite.

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Postby TaQud » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:40 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:Are were still arguing over the army thing...good lord people. :palm:

hey you were arguing over abortion for a long time til a mod stepped in... (jut sayin') :meh:
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:45 pm

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Zweite Alaje wrote:Are were still arguing over the army thing...good lord people. :palm:

hey you were arguing over abortion for a long time til a mod stepped in... (jut sayin') :meh:


Yeah abortion should be allowed up until birth :clap:

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For this upcoming Presidential election, what voting system is being used? FPTP? STV? Something else?
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Postby Wolfmanne » Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:27 pm

Darmen wrote:For this upcoming Presidential election, what voting system is being used? FPTP? STV? Something else?

Two-round system.
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I'm sure you can quote some posts from the leadership of the CP stating this, yes?

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I'm confused, I said in my app that Illegal immigration is ok unless an illegal commits a crime, how does that put me at against?

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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:01 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
TaQud wrote:hey you were arguing over abortion for a long time til a mod stepped in... (jut sayin') :meh:


Yeah abortion should be allowed up until birth :clap:


Please don't start with me... :roll:
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North-West Molovsky wrote:SENATOR APPLICATION
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:22 pm

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As previously stated; Most War Colleges are formed in order to Deterimine the Usage of the Military.


They are established to train the officer core.


That's such a narrow view of it; While Yes Officer Education generally takes Perpsective Personal to them the War College also in most Cases Issues Edicts on Behavioral Conduct, Regulation of Uniform and other Issues of Conduct.

The War College is the Body Responsible more so then the General Staff for how a Military acts due to its activity as core of the Principles of whatever Military you wish to bring into this.

They also Forumulate Tactics and Those Tactics are then tested in Test Bed Locations by the Military; The Advent of Urban Warfare truely demostrates where The War College at least as far as the United State's Army truely took center as far as it's activities and future outlook upon combat.
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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:23 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
They are established to train the officer core.


That's such a narrow view of it; While Yes Officer Education generally takes Perpsective Personal to them the War College also in most Cases Issues Edicts on Behavioral Conduct, Regulation of Uniform and other Issues of Conduct.

The War College is the Body Responsible more so then the General Staff for how a Military acts due to its activity as core of the Principles of whatever Military you wish to bring into this.

They also Forumulate Tactics and Those Tactics are then tested in Test Bed Locations by the Military; The Advent of Urban Warfare truely demostrates where The War College at least as far as the United State's Army truely took center as far as it's activities and future outlook upon combat.

Seriously, learn the proper use of capital letters, please. Your posts are a sore on the eyes.

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