NSG Senate Lobby (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[Ceannairceach]

No, they wouldn't, unless we offered. You're not good at this, are you?

Why would they give us everything we want without getting anything in return? Would you give me fifty thousand dollars in return for nothing?

If it was your story, I imagine i'd be obligated to.

[Priory Academy USSR]

No, they wouldn't, unless we offered. You're not good at this, are you?

Why would they give us everything we want without getting anything in return? Would you give me fifty thousand dollars in return for nothing?

Training up militaries is generally a selfish goal for the trainers. It's far better to train a military which can uphold the law and deal with any rogue groups than have another Somalia.

[Isarabaeum]

"Are you talking to me here, Seelelander?" The young King asked after raising his drinking glass into the air. "If so, I'm all ears!"

[The Zeonic States]

Given that we can found our own War College i don't see the point in sending Nationals to a foreign insistute.

So they can return with the knowledge to set up a war college

Given that the Majority of War Colleges were formed in order to deterimine how a Military was conduct it self upon a Battle Field i don't Understand Your reasoning.

We send the to a foreign War College and then they return and form another within the Land?

[Kouralia]

No, they wouldn't, unless we offered. You're not good at this, are you?

Why would they give us everything we want without getting anything in return? Would you give me fifty thousand dollars in return for nothing?

Who says the Gurkha rifles are the best units in the British Army?

I'd like to see them out-jump the Paras, out tank the RTR, out shoot the Gunners, out drive the Loggies, out signal the Signals, out Infantry 3 Commando Brigade and out fly the AAC.

[Great Nepal]

Why would they give us everything we want without getting anything in return? Would you give me fifty thousand dollars in return for nothing?

If it was your story, I imagine i'd be obligated to.

So, what you are saying is we should throw out realism and say "British accepted to give us everything because that fits out story"... I think we should go for something more realistic here.

[Imperiatom]

Says you, Senator. I have it on good authority that if we asked, the British would accomadate.

They would ask for something in return, it only makes sense. There is no such thing as free lunch, senator and it is quite foolhardy to hope to get one.

The British are one of the more honorable nations. Now Americans really would want something in return! If we had any that is, if we don't i doubt they would help us.

[The Zeonic States]

Given that we can found our own War College i don't see the point in sending Nationals to a foreign insistute.

Our own college founded on what training manuals? We need help to set up the training program and who better to help with that than sandhurst. Once its set up we can make changes where we see fit later.

As previously stated; Most War Colleges are formed in order to Deterimine the Usage of the Military.

[Ceannairceach]

If it was your story, I imagine i'd be obligated to.

So, what you are saying is we should throw out realism and say "British accepted to give us everything because that fits out story"... I think we should go for something more realistic here.

Like hire totally loyal retired generals off the completely existent Camo Pages to build up our military which they totally won't use to perform a coup ousting us from power?

Yup, totally realistic.

[Seelelander]

"My name is Margarte Bäcker, and I am of the United Socialist Labour Party. We believe in the worker's right to self determination, and thus we formed the party, and we work under Comrade Chairman New Freedomstan, we are one of the only real organizations who has worked for non-partisan legislation in the Senate. We hope to seek your support in the Senate Floor."

Margarte Bäcker
United Socialist Labor Party
Commissar of Propaganda

[Imperiatom]

If it was your story, I imagine i'd be obligated to.

So, what you are saying is we should throw out realism and say "British accepted to give us everything because that fits out story"... I think we should go for something more realistic here.

That is realistic. Its what happened in the 53 former colonies of the Empire. That is one quarter of the worlds sovereign nation states, One can't get more realistic than that.

[Isarabaeum]

"Never mind then," the King told himself as he pulled his drink slowly back to his lips, and continued to listen to those around him.

[Imperiatom]

Our own college founded on what training manuals? We need help to set up the training program and who better to help with that than sandhurst. Once its set up we can make changes where we see fit later.

As previously stated; Most War Colleges are formed in order to Deterimine the Usage of the Military.

They are established to train the officer core.

[Great Nepal]

Why would they give us everything we want without getting anything in return? Would you give me fifty thousand dollars in return for nothing?

Who says the Gurkha rifles are the best units in the British Army?
I'd like to see them out-jump the Paras, out tank the RTR, out shoot the Gunners, out drive the Loggies, out signal the Signals, out Infantry 3 Commando Brigade and out fly the AAC.

They are troops who are the most all round unit in British army, they are the most brave and skilled ones as evidenced by incident when one Gurkha repelled attack by thirty or so Talibans in Afghanistan (or something like that).

Training up militaries is generally a selfish goal for the trainers. It's far better to train a military which can uphold the law and deal with any rogue groups than have another Somalia.

Yes, however that does not require giving specialised training. Of course, British would give us basic level training for free but why would they send their elite troops to train troops of non-allied nation for free?

[Imperiatom]

"Never mind then," the King told himself as he pulled his drink slowly back to his lips, and continued to listen to those around him.

Will somebody swat that dam fly i hear droning in the back of the chamber!

[Great Nepal]

So, what you are saying is we should throw out realism and say "British accepted to give us everything because that fits out story"... I think we should go for something more realistic here.

Like hire totally loyal retired generals off the completely existent Camo Pages to build up our military which they totally won't use to perform a coup ousting us from power?

Yup, totally realistic.

No, they are loyal because of money and they will stay till we pay them healthy money. They will have partial idea of our army but not the whole picture.

[The New Sea Territory]

Excuse me, gents and lads, but may I ask. Can a NSG political party can set up its own headquarters and other allied organizations, even though unofficially recognized by Senate as political party? Thanks for the answers. You may continue with the debate afterwards.

Since I'm a Republican inclined to answer such, pretty much we could advocate taxation since this is the only revenue of the government to shoulder its expenses for the people to make use of. If the government is honest and just, such system is prevalently stable to be implied. If not, it can endanger the balance of a nation because corruption is everywhere. Taxation is the state's expense foundation. No tax, no projects for the people, no government.

I disagree with your latter statements. But that;s not the point.


I think that the Objectivists can set up Galt's Gulch as an HQ, for recruitment. And we have ten people who are willing, they just didn't put up apps and were confused when I recruited them.

[Imperiatom]

Who says the Gurkha rifles are the best units in the British Army?
I'd like to see them out-jump the Paras, out tank the RTR, out shoot the Gunners, out drive the Loggies, out signal the Signals, out Infantry 3 Commando Brigade and out fly the AAC.

They are troops who are the most all round unit in British army, they are the most brave and skilled ones as evidenced by incident when one Gurkha repelled attack by thirty or so Talibans in Afghanistan (or something like that).

Training up militaries is generally a selfish goal for the trainers. It's far better to train a military which can uphold the law and deal with any rogue groups than have another Somalia.

Yes, however that does not require giving specialised training. Of course, British would give us basic level training for free but why would they send their elite troops to train troops of non-allied nation for free?

History show us that they are open to it.

[Great Nepal]

They are troops who are the most all round unit in British army, they are the most brave and skilled ones as evidenced by incident when one Gurkha repelled attack by thirty or so Talibans in Afghanistan (or something like that).


Yes, however that does not require giving specialised training. Of course, British would give us basic level training for free but why would they send their elite troops to train troops of non-allied nation for free?

History show us that they are open to it.

Can I get a link? I mean, it doesn't make sense that they would do so...

[Imperiatom]

Like hire totally loyal retired generals off the completely existent Camo Pages to build up our military which they totally won't use to perform a coup ousting us from power?

Yup, totally realistic.

No, they are loyal because of money and they will stay till we pay them healthy money. They will have partial idea of our army but not the whole picture.

Great ensuring loyalty with money. When has that ever gone wrong?

[Great Nepal]

No, they are loyal because of money and they will stay till we pay them healthy money. They will have partial idea of our army but not the whole picture.

Great ensuring loyalty with money. When has that ever gone wrong?

40 men who are loyal to money. What is worst damage they can do? May be burn down the training facility before being shot.

[Isarabaeum]

"If this is about money, then I can support everybody here on that!" The young King laughed, "Heck - I could support many armies many, MANY times over if that's the case! My own private funds can do that!" He drank quite a bit from his soda - filled glass after that.

[Imperiatom]

History show us that they are open to it.

Can I get a link? I mean, it doesn't make sense that they would do so...

"Delta Force was formed after numerous, well-publicized terrorist incidents in the 1970s. These incidents led the U.S. government to develop a full-time counter-terrorism unit. Key military and government figures had already been briefed on a model for this type of unit in the early 1960s. Charlie Beckwith, a Special Forces officer and Vietnam veteran, had served as an exchange officer with the British Army's Special Air Service (22 SAS Regiment) during the Malayan Emergency. Upon his return, Beckwith presented a detailed report highlighting the U.S. Army's vulnerability in not having an SAS-type unit" The formation of delta force is just one of many examples.

[Imperiatom]

Great ensuring loyalty with money. When has that ever gone wrong?

40 men who are loyal to money. What is worst damage they can do? May be burn down the training facility before being shot.

Somebody comes along with more money and buys them so they sell information.

EDIT: When an individual is only there for the money there is only one thing that can be guarantied. That is that they will be open to a bigger offer from somebody else. They can do plenty of damage.

[The Realm of God]

Can we just agree that something is here to prevent the country from becoming an Anarcho-Shitfest.

*Now I have a title for a Punk Album.*