NSG Senate Lobby (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[The Zeonic States]

Foreign Soldiers not only Imply utter Weakeness in the government and this Senate but also Mock any future efforts at building a Regional Military.

So excuse me for finding faults with Your Logic.

The government is utterly weak. We just formed it. Refusing to accept help is foolish at best.

Acknowledged but i believe setting the stage for intervenationalism is a dangerous practice; This prior exposure to Martial Law as i said would provide not only an excuse for not forming a Military Based upon prior assosiation with a foreign Military. As Reality has shown Puppet Nations rarely form Militaries or rather their Militaries rarely are well formed.

I believe allowing ourselves to be cowed in this manner will damage future independent ventures.

Hence why i disagreed with Foreign Military Presence; Even if it would fit some one's version of National "History" Better.

[Glasgia]

They could be involved in training ours up perhaps?

There, I would disagree. We must train our own forces not rely on foreign army training our forces.

If, being a former British colony, our forces were made up of Aurentian soldiers who had served with the Brits then we wouldn't need to have them trained. They'd already be trained and equipped. We just need to convince them they belong with us and organise them.

[Great Nepal]

There, I would disagree. We must train our own forces not rely on foreign army training our forces.

How do we train them? We have never had an army so we don't know what to do! and how to do it! We need help. The British army has some of the best training colleges in the world we should learn how they do things from them.

Hire retired military generals from foreign nations and hire military experts with highest qualifications to train the troops.

[Wolfmanne]

How do we train them? We have never had an army so we don't know what to do! and how to do it! We need help. The British army has some of the best training colleges in the world we should learn how they do things from them.

Hire retired military generals from foreign nations and hire military experts with highest qualifications to train the troops.

Hire G4S and BlackWater, for tha lulz.

[Great Nepal]

There, I would disagree. We must train our own forces not rely on foreign army training our forces.

If, being a former British colony, our forces were made up of Aurentian soldiers who had served with the Brits then we wouldn't need to have them trained. They'd already be trained and equipped. We just need to convince them they belong with us and organise them.

Yea, that is also possibility. When India was formed, British left Indian troops in the country.

[The Zeonic States]

They could be involved in training ours up perhaps?

There, I would disagree. We must train our own forces not rely on foreign army training our forces.

Agreed the formation of War College and National Military Training standard are imparative

[Zweite Alaje]

OH....ok. Nvm then.

Still against it being the Bloody UK.

Would prefer it being any handful of despotic Expansionist Poweres through out reality then the English.

._. not joking i would friggin take the Ottomans over the english.

Beh.

The Brits are cool with me, very stable nation.

[Imperiatom]

How do we train them? We have never had an army so we don't know what to do! and how to do it! We need help. The British army has some of the best training colleges in the world we should learn how they do things from them.

Hire retired military generals from foreign nations and hire military experts with highest qualifications to train the troops.

Or we get it for free from the British before they leave. Lets be fiscally responsible.

[Divair]

The government is utterly weak. We just formed it. Refusing to accept help is foolish at best.

Acknowledged but i believe setting the stage for intervenationalism is a dangerous practice; This prior exposure to Martial Law as i said would provide not only an excuse for not forming a Military Based upon prior assosiation with a foreign Military. As Reality has shown Puppet Nations rarely form Militaries or rather their Militaries rarely are well formed.

I believe allowing ourselves to be cowed in this manner will damage future independent ventures.

Hence why i disagreed with Foreign Military Presence; Even if it would fit some one's version of National "History" Better.

Just like South Korea, right? And Germany? And Japan?


No. Wait. They're doing fine, as will we.

[Imperiatom]

Hire retired military generals from foreign nations and hire military experts with highest qualifications to train the troops.

Hire G4S and BlackWater, for tha lulz.

Pure gold.

[Great Nepal]

Hire retired military generals from foreign nations and hire military experts with highest qualifications to train the troops.

Or we get it for free from the British before they leave. Lets be fiscally responsible.

Then, our army will have tactics of just the British. Furthermore, that means we will owe United Kingdom something. Hiring retired generals and military experts gives us mix military tradition, and makes our army independent.

[Glasgia]

The government is utterly weak. We just formed it. Refusing to accept help is foolish at best.

Acknowledged but i believe setting the stage for intervenationalism is a dangerous practice; This prior exposure to Martial Law as i said would provide not only an excuse for not forming a Military Based upon prior assosiation with a foreign Military. As Reality has shown Puppet Nations rarely form Militaries or rather their Militaries rarely are well formed.

I believe allowing ourselves to be cowed in this manner will damage future independent ventures.

Hence why i disagreed with Foreign Military Presence; Even if it would fit some one's version of National "History" Better.

Sorry, leave my history out of it for a second, just take the pure scenario:

We used to be a British colony, but after a late 2012 referendum have been granted full independence. British soldiers are enforcing regular law, not martial law just regular, as the government organises a police force and defence forces.

[The Zeonic States]

Acknowledged but i believe setting the stage for intervenationalism is a dangerous practice; This prior exposure to Martial Law as i said would provide not only an excuse for not forming a Military Based upon prior assosiation with a foreign Military. As Reality has shown Puppet Nations rarely form Militaries or rather their Militaries rarely are well formed.

I believe allowing ourselves to be cowed in this manner will damage future independent ventures.

Hence why i disagreed with Foreign Military Presence; Even if it would fit some one's version of National "History" Better.

Just like South Korea, right? And Germany? And Japan?


No. Wait. They're doing fine, as will we.

Heh Look at Burma, Taiwan or zimbabwe.

You have success stories with the Foreigner Business but you also have failures.

The Model isn't as Pretty nor stable as people here would make it seem.

[Divair]

Heh Look at Burma, Taiwan or zimbabwe.

You have success stories with the Foreigner Business but you also have failures.

The Model isn't as Pretty nor stable as people here would make it seem.

And because we control the nation, it will be a success.

[Glasgia]

Just like South Korea, right? And Germany? And Japan?


No. Wait. They're doing fine, as will we.

Heh Look at Burma, Taiwan or zimbabwe.

You have success stories with the Foreigner Business but you also have failures.

The Model isn't as Pretty nor stable as people here would make it seem.

Those countries were all based with little infastructure or means to form their own army and create an economy. Hopefully, we have those means. You want us to have those means, right?

[Ceannairceach]

Or we get it for free from the British before they leave. Lets be fiscally responsible.

Then, our army will have tactics of just the British. Furthermore, that means we will owe United Kingdom something. Hiring retired generals and military experts gives us mix military tradition, and makes our army independent.

So you wish for the nation to allow foreigners with no ties to the nation free reign over our armed forces? That is simply asking for a coup.

[Great Nepal]

And because we control the nation, it will be a success.

Of course, what could go wrong in nation where NSG controls legislature.... right?

[TaQud]

Oh wait, here's mine.
Evolution/Creationism: Creationism

well you won't get many votes for the presidential run than... (or the majority left votes you won't get)

[Divair]

And because we control the nation, it will be a success.

Of course, what could go wrong in nation where NSG controls legislature.... right?

It'll be fun.

[Imperiatom]

Or we get it for free from the British before they leave. Lets be fiscally responsible.

Then, our army will have tactics of just the British. Furthermore, that means we will owe United Kingdom something. Hiring retired generals and military experts gives us mix military tradition, and makes our army independent.

The British army is a fine institution that many of the worlds armed forces are based on. It is an army that built the largest empire the world has ever seen. Our army will be independent your pride is not a good thing to have when considering national security. We don't owe them anything. They used to own us. They leave but before the leave they help us react a level where we can fend for ourselves.

[Great Nepal]

Then, our army will have tactics of just the British. Furthermore, that means we will owe United Kingdom something. Hiring retired generals and military experts gives us mix military tradition, and makes our army independent.

So you wish for the nation to allow foreigners with no ties to the nation free reign over our armed forces? That is simply asking for a coup.

We hire foreign retired generals and military experts, we do not give them free reign. Ministry of defence overlooks their every actions and they are just few men, they wont be couping the nation any time soon.

[Arglorand]

And because we control the nation, it will be a success.

Of course, what could go wrong in nation where NSG controls legislature.... right?

Challenge: NSG, do not blow up this nation.

CHALLENGE ACCEPTED.

[Imperiatom]

Then, our army will have tactics of just the British. Furthermore, that means we will owe United Kingdom something. Hiring retired generals and military experts gives us mix military tradition, and makes our army independent.

So you wish for the nation to allow foreigners with no ties to the nation free reign over our armed forces? That is simply asking for a coup.

I had not thought of that but yes it's not a very good idea is it.

[Kouralia]

Or we get it for free from the British before they leave. Lets be fiscally responsible.

Then, our army will have tactics of just the British.

You say that like it's not one of the best outcomes we could have.

[Glasgia]

You guys keep arguing, I'm heading off as it's a school night and I have homework to do. Night

Goodnight Senators, I must leave this debate to meet with a council of business owners in my constituency/state/county.