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Glasgia
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Postby Glasgia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:10 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Glasgia wrote:Can we, for the purposes of settling this dispute and to set up my history, assume that the British army are currently policing Aurentina beforre withdrawing when we've established our own laws? It would really help and stop our nation from being an anarcho-craphole.


You propose placing our Nation under FOREIGN MARTIAL LAW.

Completely against this Insane Proposal.


Well, the current plan for my history involves us being a British possession until some point after WW2, so it would make sense. And, I doubt we'd be under martial law. Just regular British law.
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Postby Divair » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:11 pm

Glasgia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
You propose placing our Nation under FOREIGN MARTIAL LAW.

Completely against this Insane Proposal.


Well, the current plan for my history involves us being a British possession until some point after WW2, so it would make sense. And, I doubt we'd be under martial law. Just regular British law.

Or they could just be peacekeepers providing aid.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:11 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
You propose placing our Nation under FOREIGN MARTIAL LAW.

Completely against this Insane Proposal.

Seconded, having foreign soldiers step foot on our soil is unacceptable.

Its for reality and history purposes only.

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Postby New Freedomstan » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:11 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Seconded, having foreign soldiers step foot on our soil is unacceptable.

Foreign soldiers keeping peace as per our laws, is more acceptable than extremist vigilantes running around, pretending to be law enforcement.

What laws?

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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:11 pm

Glasgia wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
You propose placing our Nation under FOREIGN MARTIAL LAW.

Completely against this Insane Proposal.


Well, the current plan for my history involves us being a British possession until some point after WW2, so it would make sense. And, I doubt we'd be under martial law. Just regular British law.

How about policed predominately by British forces under technical command of UN? That would make it more palatable to some people.
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Postby Othelos » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:12 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Seconded, having foreign soldiers step foot on our soil is unacceptable.

Foreign soldiers keeping peace as per our laws, is more acceptable than extremist vigilantes running around, pretending to be law enforcement.

Agreed.
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Postby The Realm of God » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:12 pm

It makes sense and answers why we are forming a government in the first place.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:12 pm

New Freedomstan wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Foreign soldiers keeping peace as per our laws, is more acceptable than extremist vigilantes running around, pretending to be law enforcement.

What laws?

Laws we have already passed. Any laws, we haven't will be dealt with as per UN declaration of human rights.
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Postby Glasgia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:13 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Glasgia wrote:
Well, the current plan for my history involves us being a British possession until some point after WW2, so it would make sense. And, I doubt we'd be under martial law. Just regular British law.

How about policed predominately by British forces under technical command of UN? That would make it more palatable to some people.


Unfortunately makes no sense to my history, but I think that'll do. I just TG'ed Denecaep with my proposal.
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Postby Zweite Alaje » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:13 pm

Ceannairceach wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Seconded, having foreign soldiers step foot on our soil is unacceptable.

Its for reality and history purposes only.


OH....ok. Nvm then.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:14 pm

The Realm of God wrote:It makes sense and answers why we are forming a government in the first place.

Hey, you changed parties?
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:14 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
Glasgia wrote:Can we, for the purposes of settling this dispute and to set up my history, assume that the British army are currently policing Aurentina beforre withdrawing when we've established our own laws? It would really help and stop our nation from being an anarcho-craphole.

Yeah, makes sense I guess. Seeing as Glasgia as pretty much told me what's gonna happen, trust me, it makes sense.


Yeah i think so too. We need outside help whilst we set up our own forces and in getting rid of the party thugs masquerading as security forces.

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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:15 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Zweite Alaje wrote:Seconded, having foreign soldiers step foot on our soil is unacceptable.

Foreign soldiers keeping peace as per our laws, is more acceptable than extremist vigilantes running around, pretending to be law enforcement.


Foreign Soldiers not only Imply utter Weakeness in the government and this Senate but also Mock any future efforts at building a Regional Military.

So excuse me for finding faults with Your Logic.
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Postby Divair » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:15 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:Foreign Soldiers not only Imply utter Weakeness in the government and this Senate but also Mock any future efforts at building a Regional Military.

So excuse me for finding faults with Your Logic.

The government is utterly weak. We just formed it. Refusing to accept help is foolish at best.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:16 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Foreign soldiers keeping peace as per our laws, is more acceptable than extremist vigilantes running around, pretending to be law enforcement.


Foreign Soldiers not only Imply utter Weakeness in the government and this Senate but also Mock any future efforts at building a Regional Military.

So excuse me for finding faults with Your Logic.

We have not illegalised murder. We do not have a government. We have not illegalised treason. We do not have an army. We do not have a police force. I think its safe to say, as it stands this nation is pretty week.
And, since British army are in process of withdrawal, it does not affect building national army.
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Postby The Zeonic States » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:17 pm

Zweite Alaje wrote:
Ceannairceach wrote:Its for reality and history purposes only.


OH....ok. Nvm then.


Still against it being the Bloody UK.

Would prefer it being any handful of despotic Expansionist Poweres through out reality then the English.

._. not joking i would friggin take the Ottomans over the english.

Beh.
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Postby Othelos » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:17 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Yeah, makes sense I guess. Seeing as Glasgia as pretty much told me what's gonna happen, trust me, it makes sense.


Yeah i think so too. We need outside help whilst we set up our own forces and in getting rid of the party thugs masquerading as security forces.

Agreed.

Also, the motion to move up the PLEA to next in the queue was more than fifthed, btw, so we won't need to have the foreign military here for long.
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:18 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
The Zeonic States wrote:
Foreign Soldiers not only Imply utter Weakeness in the government and this Senate but also Mock any future efforts at building a Regional Military.

So excuse me for finding faults with Your Logic.

We have not illegalised murder. We do not have a government. We have not illegalised treason. We do not have an army. We do not have a police force. I think its safe to say, as it stands this nation is pretty week.
And, since British army are in process of withdrawal, it does not affect building national army.


They could be involved in training ours up perhaps?

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Postby Divair » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:18 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:We have not illegalised murder. We do not have a government. We have not illegalised treason. We do not have an army. We do not have a police force. I think its safe to say, as it stands this nation is pretty week.
And, since British army are in process of withdrawal, it does not affect building national army.


They could be involved in training ours up perhaps?

Definitely. Military advisers and equipment.
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Great Nepal
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:18 pm

Imperiatom wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:We have not illegalised murder. We do not have a government. We have not illegalised treason. We do not have an army. We do not have a police force. I think its safe to say, as it stands this nation is pretty week.
And, since British army are in process of withdrawal, it does not affect building national army.


They could be involved in training ours up perhaps?

There, I would disagree. We must train our own forces not rely on foreign army training our forces.
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Imperiatom
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:18 pm

Othelos wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
Yeah i think so too. We need outside help whilst we set up our own forces and in getting rid of the party thugs masquerading as security forces.

Agreed.

Also, the motion to move up the PLEA to next in the queue was more than fifthed, btw, so we won't need to have the foreign military here for long.


Sounds good.

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Postby The Realm of God » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:19 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:It makes sense and answers why we are forming a government in the first place.

Hey, you changed parties?


I did, Everim offered me a place at the PCP in a TG conversation on Sunday, I've been mulling it over and came to the conclusion that I'm better off with the other Tories.
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Glasgia
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Postby Glasgia » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:19 pm

The Zeonic States wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Foreign soldiers keeping peace as per our laws, is more acceptable than extremist vigilantes running around, pretending to be law enforcement.


Foreign Soldiers not only Imply utter Weakeness in the government and this Senate but also Mock any future efforts at building a Regional Military.

So excuse me for finding faults with Your Logic.


First of all, we are weak. As Divair said, we just formed. We dont even have a police force. However, if letting paramilitaries control your nation isn't weak though, I don't know what is.

Secondly, they aren't even foreign. Playing by this scenario, we're a former British colony transitioning to independence. They're tring to help us set up our own military, not mocking our future efforts.

Finally, the faults in my logic were actually faults in your logic.
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Postby Great Nepal » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:20 pm

The Realm of God wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Hey, you changed parties?


I did, Everim offered me a place at the PCP in a TG conversation on Sunday, I've been mulling it over and came to the conclusion that I'm better off with the other Tories.

You will be missed. Good luck and hope you succeed in being president. :)
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Postby Imperiatom » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:20 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
They could be involved in training ours up perhaps?

There, I would disagree. We must train our own forces not rely on foreign army training our forces.


How do we train them? We have never had an army so we don't know what to do! and how to do it! We need help. The British army has some of the best training colleges in the world we should learn how they do things from them.

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