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Hathradic States
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:29 am

Arglorand wrote:(Image)

Been working (namely, collecting data and punching it into a generator) on this today. I can't say I'm quite satisfied with this graph; I don't like that one of the SDMP is out there alone among the independents - perhaps symbolic of how he's anonymous until further notice, I can't say. :P I also don't like that the SDMP's burgundy is rather similar to the CFE's dark red, but, hey. Sorry for my screwups here, guys. Blame the generator. What you really can blame me for is that I'm actually not exactly sure if I was perfectly right in my calculations. I probably wasn't. It's hard to tell.

Anyway. Red - Communists (23), green - Red-Greens (17), orange - Tits & Redheads (13), light green - Totally Stoned (6), light blue - Liberal Democrats (16), burgundy - SDMP (3), grey - independents (66), dark blue - Progressive-Conservatives (23), purple - National People's Party (8), lighter orange - Classical Monarchist Party (18), yellow - Libertarian Freedom Party (11), dark red - Coalition for Freedom and Enterprise (9), black - National Imperialist-Freedom Party (9).

Not bad. Not bad at all.

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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:30 am

Ovisterra! Welcome to the NSG Senate! Would you like to join the Social Democratic Monarchist Party? Details here:

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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:30 am

Ovisterra wrote:MY APPLICATION:

Username/Nation Name: Ovisterra (though I prefer if people just call me Ovi most of the time)
Date that you joined the forum: 17th of July 2010
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Any clue what party you'll join?

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Postby Fulflood » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:31 am

Arglorand wrote:(Image)

Been working (namely, collecting data and punching it into a generator) on this today. I can't say I'm quite satisfied with this graph; I don't like that one of the SDMP is out there alone among the independents - perhaps symbolic of how he's anonymous until further notice, I can't say. :P I also don't like that the SDMP's burgundy is rather similar to the CFE's dark red, but, hey. Sorry for my screwups here, guys. Blame the generator. What you really can blame me for is that I'm actually not exactly sure if I was perfectly right in my calculations. I probably wasn't. It's hard to tell.

Anyway. Red - Communists (23), green - Red-Greens (17), orange - Tits & Redheads (13), light green - Totally Stoned (6), light blue - Liberal Democrats (16), burgundy - SDMP (3), grey - independents (66), dark blue - Progressive-Conservatives (23), purple - National People's Party (8), lighter orange - Classical Monarchist Party (18), yellow - Libertarian Freedom Party (11), dark red - Coalition for Freedom and Enterprise (9), black - National Imperialist-Freedom Party (9).

That's pretty nice. If you have a list of members, I'd be happy to collaborate (for accuracy), as I have one too. Your diagram does seem to pretty much match up though, although the Imperialists list 5 members who I'm not sure are even in the Senate, while the PC lists one who hasn't applied, and four members (1xPC, 1xC, 1xIND, 1xLD) have resigned.

The parties (only the ones with more than 5 members) I have are:

Communists C 22
Red-Greens RG 17
Stoners TS 6
Tits & Redheads TR 13
Liberal Democrats LD 14
Independents IND 73
Progressive Conservatives PC 23
National People’s Party NPP 7
Libertarians LFP 11
Classical Monarchists CM 15
Freedom and Enterprise CFE 9

I've amended this to include some of the things you've found which I have not.

I have a more detailed list, which I'll gladly share with you should you want it.
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Postby Ujh Uhj » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:32 am

Is there an outlet for senators and the public to view passed legislation and proposals without fiddling through 90 pages of the chamber?

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Postby Ovisterra » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:32 am

Divair wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:MY APPLICATION:

Username/Nation Name: Ovisterra (though I prefer if people just call me Ovi most of the time)
Date that you joined the forum: 17th of July 2010
History of Bans: Nothing. No warnings, no bans.

Any clue what party you'll join?


Nope. I've already recieved a request from one (I won't say who), but I'll need... about three hours to make a decision. I've got reading to do.
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Postby Of the Free Socialist Territories » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:32 am

Ujh Uhj wrote:Is there an outlet for senators and the public to view passed legislation and proposals without fiddling through 90 pages of the chamber?


viewtopic.php?f=25&t=235877

Passed legislation and the proposal at vote can be found in the Chamber's OP.
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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:33 am

Ovisterra wrote:
Divair wrote:Any clue what party you'll join?


Nope. I've already recieved a request from one (I won't say who), but I'll need... about three hours to make a decision. I've got reading to do.

Good idea.

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Postby Arglorand » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:40 am

Ovisterra wrote:MY APPLICATION:

Username/Nation Name: Ovisterra (though I prefer if people just call me Ovi most of the time)
Date that you joined the forum: 17th of July 2010
History of Bans: Nothing. No warnings, no bans.

Ovi!

Good to see you here.

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There. Updated, GL. I also made a slight change to add New Waterford to the Prog-Cons and Ovisterra to the Independents.
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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:40 am

Arglorand wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:MY APPLICATION:

Username/Nation Name: Ovisterra (though I prefer if people just call me Ovi most of the time)
Date that you joined the forum: 17th of July 2010
History of Bans: Nothing. No warnings, no bans.

Ovi!

Good to see you here.

Image

There. Updated, GL. I also made a slight change to add New Waterford to the Prog-Cons and Ovisterra to the Independents.

Looks great!

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Postby Arglorand » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:41 am

Fulflood wrote:
Arglorand wrote:(Image)

Been working (namely, collecting data and punching it into a generator) on this today. I can't say I'm quite satisfied with this graph; I don't like that one of the SDMP is out there alone among the independents - perhaps symbolic of how he's anonymous until further notice, I can't say. :P I also don't like that the SDMP's burgundy is rather similar to the CFE's dark red, but, hey. Sorry for my screwups here, guys. Blame the generator. What you really can blame me for is that I'm actually not exactly sure if I was perfectly right in my calculations. I probably wasn't. It's hard to tell.

Anyway. Red - Communists (23), green - Red-Greens (17), orange - Tits & Redheads (13), light green - Totally Stoned (6), light blue - Liberal Democrats (16), burgundy - SDMP (3), grey - independents (66), dark blue - Progressive-Conservatives (23), purple - National People's Party (8), lighter orange - Classical Monarchist Party (18), yellow - Libertarian Freedom Party (11), dark red - Coalition for Freedom and Enterprise (9), black - National Imperialist-Freedom Party (9).

That's pretty nice. If you have a list of members, I'd be happy to collaborate (for accuracy), as I have one too. Your diagram does seem to pretty much match up though, although the Imperialists list 5 members who I'm not sure are even in the Senate, while the PC lists one who hasn't applied, and four members (1xPC, 1xC, 1xIND, 1xLD) have resigned.

The parties (only the ones with more than 5 members) I have are:

Communists C 22
Red-Greens RG 17
Stoners TS 6
Tits & Redheads TR 13
Liberal Democrats LD 14
Independents IND 73
Progressive Conservatives PC 23
National People’s Party NPP 7
Libertarians LFP 11
Classical Monarchists CM 15
Freedom and Enterprise CFE 9

I've amended this to include some of the things you've found which I have not.

I have a more detailed list, which I'll gladly share with you should you want it.

Ah. Cark. While you posted this, I was off updating, would've saved me some trouble.

Darn.
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Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Ovisterra » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:42 am

Arglorand wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:MY APPLICATION:

Username/Nation Name: Ovisterra (though I prefer if people just call me Ovi most of the time)
Date that you joined the forum: 17th of July 2010
History of Bans: Nothing. No warnings, no bans.

Ovi!

Good to see you here.

Image

There. Updated, GL. I also made a slight change to add New Waterford to the Prog-Cons and Ovisterra to the Independents.


Awesome. Thank you for the welcome. :D

Currently, I'm thinking:

A. This is a brilliant idea. How did it take this long?
B. I'm in a "join a big party before splintering off and starting a crazy, separatist fringe party later" space.
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Postby Hippostania » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:45 am

Lack of transparent background annoyed me once again so much that I made a new chart :p

EDIT: Oh nvm, Arglo got me first! Also, we should probably discuss the seating order of the Senate to avoid confusion in the future.

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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:47 am

Fulflood wrote:
Arglorand wrote:(Image)

Been working (namely, collecting data and punching it into a generator) on this today. I can't say I'm quite satisfied with this graph; I don't like that one of the SDMP is out there alone among the independents - perhaps symbolic of how he's anonymous until further notice, I can't say. :P I also don't like that the SDMP's burgundy is rather similar to the CFE's dark red, but, hey. Sorry for my screwups here, guys. Blame the generator. What you really can blame me for is that I'm actually not exactly sure if I was perfectly right in my calculations. I probably wasn't. It's hard to tell.

Anyway. Red - Communists (23), green - Red-Greens (17), orange - Tits & Redheads (13), light green - Totally Stoned (6), light blue - Liberal Democrats (16), burgundy - SDMP (3), grey - independents (66), dark blue - Progressive-Conservatives (23), purple - National People's Party (8), lighter orange - Classical Monarchist Party (18), yellow - Libertarian Freedom Party (11), dark red - Coalition for Freedom and Enterprise (9), black - National Imperialist-Freedom Party (9).

That's pretty nice. If you have a list of members, I'd be happy to collaborate (for accuracy), as I have one too. Your diagram does seem to pretty much match up though, although the Imperialists list 5 members who I'm not sure are even in the Senate, while the PC lists one who hasn't applied, and four members (1xPC, 1xC, 1xIND, 1xLD) have resigned.

The parties (only the ones with more than 5 members) I have are:

Communists C 22
Red-Greens RG 17
Stoners TS 6
Tits & Redheads TR 13
Liberal Democrats LD 14
Independents IND 73
Progressive Conservatives PC 23
National People’s Party NPP 7
Libertarians LFP 11
Classical Monarchists CM 15
Freedom and Enterprise CFE 9

I've amended this to include some of the things you've found which I have not.

I have a more detailed list, which I'll gladly share with you should you want it.

We have nine members in the Senate, my friend. Or more, I believe.

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Postby Ujh Uhj » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:48 am

Of the Free Socialist Territories wrote:
Ujh Uhj wrote:Is there an outlet for senators and the public to view passed legislation and proposals without fiddling through 90 pages of the chamber?


viewtopic.php?f=25&t=235877

Passed legislation and the proposal at vote can be found in the Chamber's OP.

Why thank you, I didn't expect it there! Much obliged.

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Postby Arglorand » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:52 am

Might be speaking out of line for someone who isn't the chairman, but I believe the TR Party is best placed where we did - between the Stoners and the Redgreens.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
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Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:52 am

Arglorand wrote:Might be speaking out of line for someone who isn't the chairman, but I believe the TR Party is best placed where we did - between the Stoners and the Redgreens.

As chairman, I agree.

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Postby Erickan » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:56 am

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Postby Verbluffen III » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:04 am

Official Party Name: Verblüffen sozialistischen Bewegung
Brief Summary of Platform: Socialist movement, member is the president of Verbluffen.
Party Color: Red
One or Two Letter Abbreviation (like D for Democrat, R for Republican): D
Chairman: Nicholäs Bismarck
One or Two Letter Abbreviation (like D for Democrat, R for Republican): D
Chairman: Otto Reichenburg
Members
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2. Karl Dornit
3. Hans Von Hindenburg
4. Amerika Stemshen
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Postby Arglorand » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:07 am

Verbluffen III wrote:Official Party Name: Verblüffen sozialistischen Bewegung
Brief Summary of Platform: Socialist movement, member is the president of Verbluffen.
Party Color: Red
One or Two Letter Abbreviation (like D for Democrat, R for Republican): D
Chairman: Nicholäs Bismarck
One or Two Letter Abbreviation (like D for Democrat, R for Republican): D
Chairman: Otto Reichenburg
Members
1. Marrtin Von Goering
2. Karl Dornit
3. Hans Von Hindenburg
4. Amerika Stemshen
5. Astrid Hofferson

There's just one problem. This is mostly OOC and to start a party, you need actual five players. You're not playing as your country, you're playing as yourself.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby The Zeonic States » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:09 am

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Postby Agritum » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:10 am

When does the votation end? How many hours left?

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Postby Verbluffen III » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:10 am

Arglorand wrote:
Verbluffen III wrote:Official Party Name: Verblüffen sozialistischen Bewegung
Brief Summary of Platform: Socialist movement, member is the president of Verbluffen.
Party Color: Red
One or Two Letter Abbreviation (like D for Democrat, R for Republican): D
Chairman: Nicholäs Bismarck
One or Two Letter Abbreviation (like D for Democrat, R for Republican): D
Chairman: Otto Reichenburg
Members
1. Marrtin Von Goering
2. Karl Dornit
3. Hans Von Hindenburg
4. Amerika Stemshen
5. Astrid Hofferson

There's just one problem. This is mostly OOC and to start a party, you need actual five players. You're not playing as your country, you're playing as yourself.


:meh:
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:12 am

Verbluffen III wrote:
Arglorand wrote:There's just one problem. This is mostly OOC and to start a party, you need actual five players. You're not playing as your country, you're playing as yourself.


:meh:

Also, you are in the NIFP. You cannot simply walk out of the Party.

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Postby Verbluffen III » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:14 am

Official Party Name: Verblüffen sozialistischen Bewegung
Brief Summary of Platform: Socialist movement, member is the president of Verbluffen.
Party Color: Red
One or Two Letter Abbreviation (like D for Democrat, R for Republican): D
Chairman: Nicholäs Bismarck
One or Two Letter Abbreviation (like D for Democrat, R for Republican): D
Chairman: Otto Reichenburg
Members
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2. REPEAL CISPA
3. Imperial Japanese Army
4. Hiccup Horrendous Haddock III
5. Astrid Hofferson
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