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Postby The Spiral Future » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:54 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Seen the thread, Spiral?

And the logo I stole from the Rose and Crown Hotel? XD


I see, I see :)

I agree with almost the entire platform which is a good sign.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:55 am

Wanna get a post on the thread so you've got it on your list?

Also, what parts do you disagree over?
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Postby Glasgia » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:59 am

Glasgia wrote:(Image)

The Market Socialist Party is a unique party, taking an unworn path in the politics of Aurentina. Though many have answered the call of socialism, each party answers it in their own way and so will we.

The key principles of our party are founded in a version of Market Socialist economic policies, more specifically Ricardian Socialism. In order to achieve a thriving economy, businesses must find themselves with competition against which they will attempt to create better products at the expense of losing consumers. At the same time, the government must have means to regulate that economy as to prevent meltdown or criminal activities. While most strive for one route or another, the Market Socialist party is committed to both. By removing all private shares and placing companies under government ownership, yet allowing a freely run economy, we can achieve both. The government will allow businesses and consumers to interact in a free market environment, while absorbing profits and regulating for the people’s good.

The party also revolves around other issues, but does not enforce voting mandates upon these unless of extreme importance. We look to create a commonwealth between the two proud nations of Aurentina and Matricio, allowing both to maintain national pride alongside unity. Within these realms, the Market Socialist party also looks to bring freedom to the people. Drugs that have been proven to have little or no side effects, such as cannabis or marijuana, are to be legalised, while more harmful narcotics will remain banned if we succeed in bringing our party to power. The rights of all minorities shall be equal to that of the population and marriage is an act between two consenting adults, no matter the gender or sexuality. Meanwhile, none will be left behind. Profits from previously mentioned economic policies will create the ability to create a large welfare safety net. All are entitled to free education, healthcare and public services. Above all, we are an entirely democratic party and respect the rights of the people.

We are open to all who feel they would abide, perhaps with some exceptions, by above policies and strive for socialist principles.


Official Party Name: Market Socialist Party
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- Ricardian Market Socialist
- Extensive welfare
- Extensive freedoms
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1. Glasgia
2. Ironrite
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4. You???
5. You???


Introducing our newest member, Ironrite!!! Though we are yet to be officially legitimised, I remain hopeful that we will soon become a major party within the Senate.
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Postby Fulflood » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:18 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:It's not eliminating representation - those parties still exist, they'd just exist as opposition to the ruling coalition.


YOU KNOW, I really need to figure out why everyone here hates compromise so much. Why must everything be black or white?


I know you posted this a few pages ago, but I totally agree. Sometimes the best things (ahem-Tax Act-ahem) come about through compromise, instead of silly circular debates like the Republic/Monarchy one or the abortion debate (I'm working on the assumption that one will happen, if it hasn't already).

Ttat said, a coalition of vastly differing parties might be a little odd, and I'm not sure it would work any better than at the moment.
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Postby Marquette of Pacific » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:20 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Marquette, the OP is extremely busy. You've just got to act as if you're already accepted.

On that note, are you interested in the SDMP?



What's the SDMP? If it's a political party, then no. I'm a member of the CM.
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:22 am

Oh, I see.

The SDMP is a political party though - it's a centre-left party that also endorses monarchism. Think of us as the product of a copulation between the CM and the RG.
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Postby The Spiral Future » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:26 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Wanna get a post on the thread so you've got it on your list?

Also, what parts do you disagree over?


Check the thread for my points.
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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:26 am

Fulflood wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:It's not eliminating representation - those parties still exist, they'd just exist as opposition to the ruling coalition.


YOU KNOW, I really need to figure out why everyone here hates compromise so much. Why must everything be black or white?


I know you posted this a few pages ago, but I totally agree. Sometimes the best things (ahem-Tax Act-ahem) come about through compromise, instead of silly circular debates like the Republic/Monarchy one or the abortion debate (I'm working on the assumption that one will happen, if it hasn't already).

Ttat said, a coalition of vastly differing parties might be a little odd, and I'm not sure it would work any better than at the moment.

I imagine a debate over abortion will occur at one point or another. Probably soon.

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Postby Arglorand » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:27 am

Divair wrote:
Fulflood wrote:
I know you posted this a few pages ago, but I totally agree. Sometimes the best things (ahem-Tax Act-ahem) come about through compromise, instead of silly circular debates like the Republic/Monarchy one or the abortion debate (I'm working on the assumption that one will happen, if it hasn't already).

Ttat said, a coalition of vastly differing parties might be a little odd, and I'm not sure it would work any better than at the moment.

I imagine a debate over abortion will occur at one point or another. Probably soon.

I can just imagine the lovely divisions among left and right that will form as a result.
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Postby Agritum » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:27 am

Fulflood wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:It's not eliminating representation - those parties still exist, they'd just exist as opposition to the ruling coalition.


YOU KNOW, I really need to figure out why everyone here hates compromise so much. Why must everything be black or white?


I know you posted this a few pages ago, but I totally agree. Sometimes the best things (ahem-Tax Act-ahem) come about through compromise, instead of silly circular debates like the Republic/Monarchy one or the abortion debate (I'm working on the assumption that one will happen, if it hasn't already).

Ttat said, a coalition of vastly differing parties might be a little odd, and I'm not sure it would work any better than at the moment.

Great Nepal wrote up an Human Rights bill that also legalizes abortion, actually.

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Postby Fulflood » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:31 am

Agritum wrote:
Fulflood wrote:
I know you posted this a few pages ago, but I totally agree. Sometimes the best things (ahem-Tax Act-ahem) come about through compromise, instead of silly circular debates like the Republic/Monarchy one or the abortion debate (I'm working on the assumption that one will happen, if it hasn't already).

Ttat said, a coalition of vastly differing parties might be a little odd, and I'm not sure it would work any better than at the moment.

Great Nepal wrote up an Human Rights bill that also legalizes abortion, actually.

Yes, I know, I'm trying not to mention that in order to not draw attention to it. Shh! :P
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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:40 am

Flaming Soul Forces wrote:SENATOR APPLICATION
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Any clue what party you'll be joining?

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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:41 am

Flaming Soul, would you be interested in joining the Social Democratic Monarchist Party? We enjoy a centre-left stance, whilst also endorsing a constitutional, elected monarch. Let's bring in a wave of sensibility and prosperity!
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:43 am

You would be better off joining the Red-Greens, a party that supports the principles of Republican Democracy, while do all it can to aid the working classes and leave this world a better place for our children. Join us in making this a better world for all!
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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:46 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Flaming Soul, would you be interested in joining the Social Democratic Monarchist Party? We enjoy a centre-left stance, whilst also endorsing a constitutional, elected monarch. Let's bring in a wave of sensibility and prosperity!

Shrillland wrote:You would be better off joining the Red-Greens, a party that supports the principles of Republican Democracy, while do all it can to aid the working classes and leave this world a better place for our children. Join us in making this a better world for all!


Jeez, guys, give him a minute. Let him choose without pressure.

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Postby TaQud » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:51 am

Pressure? Its a Party. They can change anytime they want.

Plus this is expected now. As soon as some applies everyone post asking "will you join our party?" or "Join our party because..." So newcomers beware that you'll be dogpiled on...
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Postby Marquette of Pacific » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:56 am

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Oh, I see.

The SDMP is a political party though - it's a centre-left party that also endorses monarchism. Think of us as the product of a copulation between the CM and the RG.


Oh, well I'm on the far-right end of the political spectrum anyways.
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Postby Flaming Soul Forces » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:00 am

Divair wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:Flaming Soul, would you be interested in joining the Social Democratic Monarchist Party? We enjoy a centre-left stance, whilst also endorsing a constitutional, elected monarch. Let's bring in a wave of sensibility and prosperity!

Shrillland wrote:You would be better off joining the Red-Greens, a party that supports the principles of Republican Democracy, while do all it can to aid the working classes and leave this world a better place for our children. Join us in making this a better world for all!


Jeez, guys, give him a minute. Let him choose without pressure.


Not sure yet!
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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:02 am

Flaming Soul Forces wrote:
Divair wrote:

Jeez, guys, give him a minute. Let him choose without pressure.


Not sure yet!
I'm looking for a social democratic or democratic socialist party supporting social libertarianism, federalism, republicanism and participatory/direct democracy.

You should probably check out the Red Greens, TR, and Lib Dems, then. One of those might work.
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Postby Agritum » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:06 am

Divair wrote:
Flaming Soul Forces wrote:
Not sure yet!
I'm looking for a social democratic or democratic socialist party supporting social libertarianism, federalism, republicanism and participatory/direct democracy.

You should probably check out the Red Greens, TR, and Lib Dems, then. One of those might work.

Let's just say that I really don't like our (Lib Dems) involvementnin the AFRICA coalition.

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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:15 am

Agritum wrote:Let's just say that I really don't like our (Lib Dems) involvementnin the AFRICA coalition.

Ok?

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Postby Agritum » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:15 am

Divair wrote:
Agritum wrote:Let's just say that I really don't like our (Lib Dems) involvementnin the AFRICA coalition.

Ok?

Ok :p

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Postby Divair » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:16 am

Agritum wrote:
Divair wrote:Ok?

Ok :p

Just confused as to how it's relevant to my post :p

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Postby New Sapienta » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:20 am

Fulflood wrote:
Agritum wrote:Great Nepal wrote up an Human Rights bill that also legalizes abortion, actually.

Yes, I know, I'm trying not to mention that in order to not draw attention to it. Shh! :P

Yeah, it has my full opposition.

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