NSG Senate Lobby (OLD THREAD, DO NOT POST)

[Polvia]

It's the best we can do for now. The nation is in its governmental infancy and we must create a cooperative, compromising body to facilitate a firm foundation that can function for all - not just to cater to any one wing.

If one wing has a majority then the democratic thing to do is respect that the vote will go a certain direction. Even people of the same ideology disagree on many issues, so the idea of trying to eliminate the need for compromise, or alienate parties that actually pursue their agendas (be they Communist of CFE) is not right and, in my view, won't reach any positive conclusion.

Both you mentioned parties pursue their respective agendas, but have been able to show compromise to some extent, but it is a fact that in a multi-party democracy you will have parties that will not compromise on certain issues. It is just a part of democracy and pluralism.

I was around for the Left Alliance, and I can tell you that if left-wing ideologies in a single party collapsed then why should any less be expect from a coalition of right-wing and left-wing parties? Compromise is fine, but expecting everyone to compromise all the time is rather illogical.

[Aeken]

It's the best we can do for now. The nation is in its governmental infancy and we must create a cooperative, compromising body to facilitate a firm foundation that can function for all - not just to cater to any one wing.

If one wing has a majority then the democratic thing to do is respect that the vote will go a certain direction. Even people of the same ideology disagree on many issues, so the idea of trying to eliminate the need for compromise, or alienate parties that actually pursue their agendas (be they Communist of CFE) is not right and, in my view, won't reach any positive conclusion.

Both you mentioned parties pursue their respective agendas, but have been able to show compromise to some extent, but it is a fact that in a multi-party democracy you will have parties that will not compromise on certain issues. It is just a part of democracy and pluralism.

I was around for the Left Alliance, and I can tell you that if left-wing ideologies in a single party collapsed then why should any less be expect from a coalition of right-wing and left-wing parties? Compromise is fine, but expecting everyone to compromise all the time is rather illogical.

Agreed. Compromise cannot always happen, whether anyone likes it or not. Unless of course everyone had the same or similar views, but that isn't prevalent in a democracy usually.

[The Spiral Future]

If one wing has a majority then the democratic thing to do is respect that the vote will go a certain direction. Even people of the same ideology disagree on many issues, so the idea of trying to eliminate the need for compromise, or alienate parties that actually pursue their agendas (be they Communist of CFE) is not right and, in my view, won't reach any positive conclusion.

Both you mentioned parties pursue their respective agendas, but have been able to show compromise to some extent, but it is a fact that in a multi-party democracy you will have parties that will not compromise on certain issues. It is just a part of democracy and pluralism.

I was around for the Left Alliance, and I can tell you that if left-wing ideologies in a single party collapsed then why should any less be expect from a coalition of right-wing and left-wing parties? Compromise is fine, but expecting everyone to compromise all the time is rather illogical.

Agreed. Compromise cannot always happen, whether anyone likes it or not. Unless of course everyone had the same or similar views, but that isn't prevalent in a democracy usually.

True, but that doesn't mean coalitions of separate views are doomed to implode at every disagreement. RL-wise my homeland of Ireland have had nothing but coalitions since the 70's and currently have a left-right coalition.

They disagree, but they can still compromise. If that is the case I fail to see why this senate would be incapable of pulling one off.

[Forster Keys]

We can more than reciprocate comrade.

Then we go from First World to...one of those Eastern European countries that changes governments every few days.

Well it's definitely more interesting.

[Divair]

Agreed. Compromise cannot always happen, whether anyone likes it or not. Unless of course everyone had the same or similar views, but that isn't prevalent in a democracy usually.

True, but that doesn't mean coalitions of separate views are doomed to implode at every disagreement. RL-wise my homeland of Ireland have had nothing but coalitions since the 70's and currently have a left-right coalition.

They disagree, but they can still compromise. If that is the case I fail to see why this senate would be incapable of pulling one off.

Because the proposed coalition is still too broad.

[Athartha]

Username/Nation Name: Athartha
Date that you joined the forum: Jun 05, 2011
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I do have a few questions, however... How long should one wait before voting, joining a party, etc?

[The Realm of God]

Username/Nation Name: Athartha
Date that you joined the forum: Jun 05, 2011
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I do have a few questions, however... How long should one wait before voting, joining a party, etc?

You can start right now Father.

[Chestaan]

Username/Nation Name: Athartha
Date that you joined the forum: Jun 05, 2011
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I do have a few questions, however... How long should one wait before voting, joining a party, etc?

You can join a party straight away. Not sure about voting.

[Divair]

Username/Nation Name: Athartha
Date that you joined the forum: Jun 05, 2011
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I do have a few questions, however... How long should one wait before voting, joining a party, etc?

As soon as you submit an application, you are to act under the assumption you have been accepted unless told otherwise. What party do you plan on joining?

[Athartha]

Username/Nation Name: Athartha
Date that you joined the forum: Jun 05, 2011
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I do have a few questions, however... How long should one wait before voting, joining a party, etc?

You can start right now Father.

I just reread the OP. Huh, guess i'm just like an actual politician?

I'm kidding, of course!

Username/Nation Name: Athartha
Date that you joined the forum: Jun 05, 2011
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I do have a few questions, however... How long should one wait before voting, joining a party, etc?

As soon as you submit an application, you are to act under the assumption you have been accepted unless told otherwise. What party do you plan on joining?

I do not have any plans at the moment. I will act as an independent until a party better meets who I am.

[Great Nepal]

Username/Nation Name: Athartha
Date that you joined the forum: Jun 05, 2011
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I do have a few questions, however... How long should one wait before voting, joining a party, etc?

Joining Coalition for Freedom and Enterprise ? Immediately. Everything else? Atleast 48 hours.
More seriously, you can start immediately.

[Maklohi Vai]

I want a counter organization to AFRICA. Any feel the same?

I am most certainly opposed to AFRICA for a couple reasons that I'd rather not disclose, and also one that I do: the lack of bipartisanship. Everyone who has agreed to join and has been accepted so far is right wing. I know Gordano is a self-proclaimed social democrat, but from what I've seen of his debating, I would not call him left wing at all. Wolfmanne is more centrist than anything else, but he is still a conservative.

That said, I don't want a formal counter-organization, because that would sort of feel like the CFE vs. Communist thing, and I think that's just really unnecessary.

[Auremena]

It's fun to lead people in mairzy doats like politicians do

[The Treorai]

Username/Nation Name: The Treorai
Date that you joined the forum: Jul 15, 2011
History of Bans: I believe I have one ban from a while back.

[Chestaan]

Username/Nation Name: The Treorai
Date that you joined the forum: Jul 15, 2011
History of Bans: I believe I have one ban from a while back.

The OP said to act as if you'd already been accepted. So you can vote and join parties and whatnot. Welcome aboard, senator!

[The United Soviet Socialist Republic]

SENATOR APPLICATION
Username/Nation Name:The United Soviet Socialist Republic
Date that you joined the forum:August 10 2012
History of Bans:Either two or three, I forget. All of which were for one day, and they were all quite a while back when I was newer.

[Strolingrad]

I haven't posted in about a week, but since then I've been excepted and I would like to declare my alignment with the Red-Green Party.

[Luziyca]

Yay! I is senator! Thus, anyone interested in forming a party that would have Juche and Songun?

[The Treorai]

I would like to officially announce my intention to join the Coalition for Freedom and Enterprise.

[RT from 116th Street]

With regrets, I will be resigning from the Senate. I haven't had enough time the past couple days, and I won't in the weeks coming up.

[Azurand]

Yay! I is senator! Thus, anyone interested in forming a party that would have Juche and Songun?

We the Classical Monarchists will watch your further steps....beware.

Welcome to NSG Senate!

[Aeken]

Yay! I is senator! Thus, anyone interested in forming a party that would have Juche and Songun?

If you can gather enough support. Although I'm not sure how.

[The New Sea Territory]

We might be installing a paramilitary wing of the party soon. Some real enemies.

QUICK! ARM THE YOUTH! PARTISANS!

Promote the WIKIWEAPON! Guns for all! Down with government!

[New Sapienta]

We already have talk of secession?

The PC needs to make a militia...

[Artite]

SENATOR APPLICATION
Username/Nation Name: Artite
Date that you joined the forum: March 12, 2013
History of Bans: None