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Postby The Realm of God » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:35 pm

Hippostania wrote:I support the title of "Lord" or "High Lord" for the head of state, and "Chancellor" for the head of government.


Hereditary High Lord with some power and an elected chancellor?
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Postby Oneracon » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:35 pm

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Have you seen the titles for some heads of state?

I haven't seen one which is that long (At least, in official use and not greeting use)


I think you mean the opposite.

It's the official titles that tend to be longer.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:36 pm

Cosara wrote:Could we use "Consul" (As in the Consul of the Roman Republic)?


That'd work
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Postby Hippostania » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:37 pm

The Realm of God wrote:
Hippostania wrote:I support the title of "Lord" or "High Lord" for the head of state, and "Chancellor" for the head of government.


Hereditary High Lord with some power and an elected chancellor?

I personally don't think that the Chancellor should be chosen by a direct vote. He/she should act as the prime minister, meaning that the chairman of the largest party in the government would automatically be the Chancellor.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:38 pm

I say we have a Monarch that will serve indefinitely until resignation, death (being inactive for a week or more without good reason) or removal by 2/3 vote of the Senate, and have a Chancellor who is elected by the Senate and serves a term of 1 month and shall be able to serve unlimited terms. The Chancellor can be removed from office by a Vote of No Confidence.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:38 pm

His Most Excellent Majesty [NAME], by the grace of God Tisroc of [NATION], may he live forever!
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:38 pm

Hippostania wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
Hereditary High Lord with some power and an elected chancellor?

I personally don't think that the Chancellor should be chosen by a direct vote. He/she should act as the prime minister, meaning that the chairman of the largest party in the government would automatically be the Chancellor.

We'd have a Left Alliance eternal government, then.
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Postby The Realm of God » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:39 pm

Hippostania wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
Hereditary High Lord with some power and an elected chancellor?

I personally don't think that the Chancellor should be chosen by a direct vote. He/she should act as the prime minister, meaning that the chairman of the largest party in the government would automatically be the Chancellor.


Well that works. It stops the High Lord from having too much power by appointing his officials.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:39 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:His Most Excellent Majesty [NAME], by the grace of God Tisroc of [NATION], may he live forever!

No mention to god... this needs to be secular affair.

Cosara wrote:I say we have a Monarch that will serve indefinitely until resignation, death (being inactive for a week or more without good reason) or removal by 2/3 vote of the Senate, and have a Chancellor who is elected by the Senate and serves a term of 1 month and shall be able to serve unlimited terms. The Chancellor can be removed from office by a Vote of No Confidence.

I agree in principle... just change the names.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:41 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:His Most Excellent Majesty [NAME], by the grace of God Tisroc of [NATION], may he live forever!

No mention to god... this needs to be secular affair.

Cosara wrote:I say we have a Monarch that will serve indefinitely until resignation, death (being inactive for a week or more without good reason) or removal by 2/3 vote of the Senate, and have a Chancellor who is elected by the Senate and serves a term of 1 month and shall be able to serve unlimited terms. The Chancellor can be removed from office by a Vote of No Confidence.

I agree in principle... just change the names.

How is this?

Head of State = High Lord

Head of Government = Prime Minister
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Postby The Realm of God » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:41 pm

I really do not think we should use Roman titles it really makes the monarchy sound cheesy as a forty foot stilton.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:42 pm

The Realm of God wrote:
Hippostania wrote:I personally don't think that the Chancellor should be chosen by a direct vote. He/she should act as the prime minister, meaning that the chairman of the largest party in the government would automatically be the Chancellor.


Well that works. It stops the High Lord from having too much power by appointing his officials.


But then only the largest party would dominate government directly, and not giving other parties equal say in the government.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:43 pm

The Realm of God wrote:I really do not think we should use Roman titles it really makes the monarchy sound cheesy as a forty foot stilton.

It was a French Title too (Though I think you're right, we shouldn't use the title of Consul)
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:43 pm

I like Prime Minister, but I despise High Lord.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:43 pm

Cosara wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:No mention to god... this needs to be secular affair.


I agree in principle... just change the names.

How is this?

Head of State = High Lord

Head of Government = Prime Minister

But roman taste...
Head of state: King-Caesar
Head of Government: Consul
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:43 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:His Most Excellent Majesty [NAME], by the grace of God Tisroc of [NATION], may he live forever!

No mention to god..

Ok, just His Majesty the Tisroc (MHLF), then.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:44 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:
Well that works. It stops the High Lord from having too much power by appointing his officials.


But then only the largest party would dominate government directly, and not giving other parties equal say in the government.

We could have the Senate itself serve as Head of Government.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:44 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:No mention to god..

Ok, just His Majesty the Tisroc (MHLF), then.

I am fine with this then...
Prime minister will still be Consul though right?
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Postby The Realm of God » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:45 pm

Cosara wrote:
The Realm of God wrote:I really do not think we should use Roman titles it really makes the monarchy sound cheesy as a forty foot stilton.

It was a French Title too (Though I think you're right, we shouldn't use the title of Consul)


Consul is fine, It's Caesar that I have issues with.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:45 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Ok, just His Majesty the Tisroc (MHLF), then.

I am fine with this then...
Prime minister will still be Consul though right?

Sure. This is a compromise I am prepared to make.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:46 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I am fine with this then...
Prime minister will still be Consul though right?

Sure. This is a compromise I am prepared to make.

Great, we have a deal.
Head of government: His Majesty the Tisroc...
Head of State: Consul...

Anyone has objections?
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Postby Gordano and Lysandus » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:47 pm

I really don't like Tisroc as a title.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:49 pm

Gordano and Lysandus wrote:I really don't like Tisroc as a title.

Look, if you accept the title of Tisroc I will consent to the head of state being *formally* elected.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:50 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Gordano and Lysandus wrote:I really don't like Tisroc as a title.

Look, if you accept the title of Tisroc I will consent to the head of state being *formally* elected.

There, guys... we have most extreme party leader agreeing to have elected monarch. Lets just close this deal before he changes his mind.
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Postby Cosara » Sat Apr 20, 2013 12:51 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:I am fine with this then...
Prime minister will still be Consul though right?

Sure. This is a compromise I am prepared to make.

Could we call the Head of State something other than King-Ceasar? I really don't like the title.
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